West Virginia has introduced a resolution where they will not accept or recognize the 2024 Presidential election

[Quiet Em]

if the con man doesn't win.

This is insanity.

https://www.wvlegislature.gov/Bill_Status/bills_text.cfm?billdoc=hcr203%20intr.htm&yr=2024&sesstype=2X&i=203&houseorig=h&billtype=cr

[no_hypocrisy]

1. While even they know that's not legal,

the goal is to delay to get the matter to Congress or the USSC.

[Quiet Em]

2. ugh, we really need to defeat him by a large margin.

They are going to be absolutely ridiculous.

[3auld6phart]

10. I can't

Believe that 1/3 to 50 % of the u.S. population can kiss and revere that shit stained orange buffoon’s ass. Get out and vote BLue even for an Animal Control officer.

[Pachamama]

21. "Subject of Legal Actions" - the Republican candidate

“That, the State of West Virginia will not recognize any election of the Democrat candidate for President during the 2024 election cycle if the Republican presidential or vice-presidential candidate is assassinated, seriously injured during an assassination attempt, incarcerated, de facto eliminated or barred from the ballot in any states, or is the subject of legal actions that preclude their effective campaigning and be it”

[birdographer]

41. Is that the resolution?

That's a long way from simply "we won't certify if our special boy doesn't win," isn't it?

[ExciteBike66]

53. Think about how broadly they can construe the part about him being subject to legal actions...

[PittBlue]

3. How horrifying.

[JustAnotherGen]

4. You get what you vote for WV

Seriously, what you permit you promote.

[Katcat]

51. Not all of us are stupid in WV

But Dems are a small minority.

[JustAnotherGen]

58. And its you

I feel empathy for. Because you have to !I've surrounded by shit asses who act stupid.

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

62. Trust me. It sucks in both places.

I considered moving there because of family ties.

[JustAnotherGen]

65. Eh - I'm in Hunterdon County NJ

Susan Sedition Soloway is a County Commissioner and will probably get re-elected.

My MAGAS are pretty awful here.

https://insurrectionindex.org/records/person/susan-soloway/

[TheRickles]

5. Not to worry - this resolution only applies to "the Democrat candidate for President".

"...the State of West Virginia will not recognize any election of the Democrat candidate for President during the 2024 election cycle if..."

No mention is made of the Democratic party's candidate, so Harris/Walz won't fall under its jurisdiction. (I'd add a smiley emoji here, but it's more pathetic than funny.)

[Pachamama]

22. Love this

And you would be technically correct

[TheRickles]

40. Yes, and it would probably stand up to judicial appeal - letter of the law vs. spirit of the law.

[Lovie777]

6. It will hurt the GQP more than Dems...........................

[Think. Again.]

12. How please?

[BootinUp]

7. They should all dress up for the vote

In their klan gear.

[Skittles]

9. or gestapo gear

yup

[Skittles]

8. they loves them some FASCISM

they don't believe in America, not at ALL

[Think. Again.]

11. Unless I'm mistaken, and please correct me if I am...

...If any state does not submit certified elector votes to Congress by the deadline, that state's electors will not be counted and the total needed for an electoral college win will be reduced by the number of elector votes that state would have submitted.

So it would basically nullify the entire state's presidential votes if they do not send send elector votes.

However, I can see where they might use this new rule to simply replace legitimate Democratic elector votes with illegitimate republican elector votes based on this new rule, and that would be very f*cked up.

[bluestarone]

14. I've heard this as well. I cannot say for sure though.

Anybody know for sure?

[LetMyPeopleVote]

13. This is really stupid and sad

[Sessuch]

44. See what Oxycontin has done to this state

[DFW]

15. I hope they are also OK with receiving no Federal funds

No US rules, no US money. Seems fair, doesn’t it?

[FakeNoose]

17. That would NEVER fly

West Virginia is one of the highest welfare-receiving states in the country.

[DFW]

19. What, really?

You must be kidding, they would never threaten that while asking a Democratic administration to continue giving them money that was taken from other states, would they? Surely, you jest…..right?

[rurallib]

16. pretty well does away with any reason to have an election

Kind of ends democracy in West Virginny

[Solly Mack]

18. Some people are just burning to make the world worse.

[patphil]

20. West Virginia is deep red.

Trump beat Biden by over 2:1 margin in 2020.


It's a symbolic gesture of their stupidity, nothing more.

[LoisB]

23. So, maybe they should form their own country9

and make him president of it.

[ChazInAz]

55. Well, that's pretty much what the secessionists said

In 1860, the states that would form the Confederacy said they'd leave the Union and go to war if Lincoln were elected.

[LoisB]

59. Yep.

[Botany]

24. I.O.W. "They" already know that Trump is going to get beaten and beaten badly too.

Putin has been very successful in this goal to weaken America by installing Trump as President
in 2016 because of the schisms he would cause in our societies and Governmental institutions.
This is also a perfect example of why so many young people who are educated and or want to
get educated move out of West Virginia when they get a chance.

[Abstractartist]

25. All talk

WV can’t afford to lose any government revenue. This would be turning this place into a ghost town

[Mysterian]

26. I lived in the forest in West Virginia for 18 years

I miss the forest. I do not miss the people.

[barbtries]

27. there will be pushback.

it's not legal, not even close.

[Picaro]

28. Democracy dying right before our eyes

This is how our democracy dies.

The ultimate issue for these people has nothing to do with voter or election fraud. This is about not accepting that their guy lost. They're afraid that Trump will lose again (I believe that he will lose) and they simply won't accept that. They still refuse to accept that he lost in 2020. The majority of the Republican party, according to stats I've seen, refuse to accept the 2020 loss. There isn't any evidence and there never has been. But they believe what they want to believe.

The Republicans have refused to play by the rules for decades. This is an inevitable escalation.

This is how any democratic system dies. Once those that are losing the argument refuse to lose then there is no longer a functioning democracy.

Other states will follow and then the Union, bought with so much blood, will be over.

I don't know of any way to stop this--nor do the people that want to preserve our system and our way of life.

West Virginia's electoral votes were very unlikely to have gone to Harris/Walz. But this is setting a precedent for other, larger states to pull the same stunt.

These people are not conservatives. They are reactionary right winger anarchists.

[slightlv]

43. In spirit, I agree... but I would say it differently.

This isn't the way democracy dies... that's too passive a voice. This is the way democracy is killed... wiped-out... obliterated. Better an active voice, since this is an overt action.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

29. Let's try rewriting this.

A legislator (not the entire state) has introduced a bill in the state legislature that has no chance of passing. The bill says …

A few legislators have introduced a resolution in the West Virginia state legislature that, even if passed, is toothless. The resolution, which has no legal standing, says …

{snip}

So, who was the legislator who introduced this doomed bill?

It’s kind of a moot point, because the two W states, Wyoming and West Virginia, will be neck and neck in a competition to see which one Trump will carry by the widest margin.

Grammar nazi note: yes, widest, not wider, because one state will be number one and the other number two, with the other 48 far behind.

[BigDemVoter]

30. Does it matter what those idiots do?

We already know they’ll vote for **$$Y-Grabber & we don’t need their electoral votes.

[OldBaldy1701E]

31. Then send in some federal troops to explain how these things work. (n/t)

[KS Toronado]

32. Sounds like Biden will be busy with Executive Actions around election time

Good thing he's got IMMUNITY thanks to SCOTUS, wonder if he'll need to arrest them and put them in
jail so they can't vote on something TSF & Heritage Foundation been telling them behind closed doors?

[GiqueCee]

33. And these assholes...

... wonder why they're a punchline to every off-color joke about that sorry-ass state.

[timoteus]

34. This is incredibly brain dead...

when you consider all the promises Trump made to the coal miners in the run-up to the 2016 election. And then he did nothing to keep those promises. He just left them to flounder and they are still backing him? Nonsensical.

[Ford_Prefect]

35. IMO it violates federal law and probably state constitution.

More stupid anti-legal BS from RW legislators trying to out-fascist the other MAGA RED states.

[WVreaper]

36. Welcome to my world!

There was a time when West Virginia was true blue, thanks to Senator Robert Byrd. Byrd went from being a Grand Wizard in the KKK to becoming the guardian of the Constitution in the US Senate. When Byrd died, so did the democratic party. I got thrown off of DU on my very first post because I tried to this community what a gimongus piece of shit that is Joe Manchin. Unfortunately for me, at that time he was still a democrat. With Joes help, the people of West Virginia have been sold a sack full of shit for a couple of decades now. I was a union underground coal miner, later a mining engineer. I got out of the industry in the late 2980's. The writing was on the wall then that the industry was dieing. US Steel and Consolidated Coal were getting out of the coal business. Their mines were sold off and some, not reopened as non-union mines. Shut down , change owners, reopen as non union. All West Virginians heard from politicians was, "we will save your guns and we will save coal!" When Hillary Clinton made her famous statement about putting coal miners out of work, end of story for democrats in West Virginia. Noboby heard or didn't want to hear her second part of that statement, "we will bring in new industry and retrain you!" . nobody heard that. One of the hardest hit with job loss was/is a three county area in southwestern WV. The mines have closed and now there is nothing. The local Walmart closed from a lack of business. Done in by Dollar General. They ain't got no jobs but by damn they still have their guns and they ain't going to let them democrats take them away. Stupid people vote for stupid people.

[BumRushDaShow]

54. "When Byrd died, so did the democratic party." - HEY! Don't forget your OTHER Senator from back in the day

...and no not THAT guy, but THIS ONE -





And in other news, every once in a while, Shelley Capito's brain will light up but then it dims back down again.

[world wide wally]

37. Send them their exit papers from the USA

[ShazzieB]

38. If this is just a resolution that has been introduced, that means nothing has happened YET.

I don't suppose there's much chance that it won't pass, but if it does, what happens then? I assume lawsuits will be filed and it will probably work its way up to the Supreme Court, the majority of whom we all know cannot be trusted to rule fairly.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if other red states pass copycat resolutions. What a mess.

[surfered]

39. Their resolution says they won't accept an illegitimate election, but..

…I can’t find their definition of illegitimate. Looks like it could mean anything they want it to; such as, Trump lost.

[bikes and bunnies]

42. I stopped reading after "Democrat [sic] led regime."

Shut up, you lying fascist pricks.

All you've brought to your state is poverty and stupidity.

[Figarosmom]

45. This can't be legal

And it means they are afraid he's not going to win

[rockbluff botanist]

46. The dregs make some noise

This is highfalutin talk from a state that lives on the largess of blue states. Someone should remind them of their abject failure as a state.

[jmowreader]

47. The last Democrat to win West Virginia was Bill Clinton

The Republicans could run a Jeffery Epstein-Al Capone ticket and win West Virginia in 2024 even if the Democratic ticket was Jesus Christ and the owner of the biggest coal mine in West Virginia. To claim they're not going to approve the vote if the Democratic ticket wins is silly because the Democratic ticket won't win there anyway.

[Botany]

61. The State has some real beauty to it but it is an ...

... example of getting people to vote against their own best interests time after time.

[dai13sy]

48. Not even close to being legal West Virginia. You'll have to behave as if you agree.

[LonePirate]

49. Let them withhold their 4 EVs in protest then. Makes it slightly easier for us to reach of majority of 268 out of 534.

[JohnnyRingo]

50. Reads like Trump dictated it using "lawyery" words.

One part says that they discount the election if it is "apparent" the democrats (cheated). That's like saying "I can't tell you what pornography is, but I'll know it when I see it".

Then there is the money shot at the end that sounds like secessionist talk:

"....election fraud or election interference resulting in the Constitutionally illegitimate selection of a President during the 2024 election cycle, the Legislature will be called into special session by the Governor to consider actions to preserve the Freedom of our People.

[Thrill]

52. This election can't be close

That’s the reality

[GreenWave]

56. Paging Senator Mansion, Time to do something,,,

[dutch777]

57. Well, that will be an interesting court case if they try to use it. Almost sounds like succession to me.

But I'd let them out and then blockade the borders. Will be a real bugger to flourish with no sea ports.

[DiverDave]

60. WTF

Is wrong with these people?
Right out in the open.
MF'RS should be arrested.
This is breathtaking in its audacity.
But, nothing will happen to these criminals.

[ecstatic]

63. odd for a "safely red" state to be doing that.

What are they afraid of?

[Aristus]

64. Well, I see all that lead and mercury in their drinking water is having an effect.