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Miles Archer

(24,328 posts)
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 11:08 AM Oct 2024

Elizabeth Warrren triggered Musk with "Tax Musk & Bezos"...that's how we got so "bouncy"

Musk's primary issue is that he WANTS TO BE a "Trump-level celebrity," but other than his fanboys, he's not particularly well-liked.

And the only reason the fanboys are there is that, LIKE Trump, the fanboys THINK he is "talking their language," rather than manipulating them.

You can get the context here:

Elon Musk calls Elizabeth Warren ‘Senator Karen’ in fight over taxes

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/15/investing/elon-musk-elizabeth-warren-taxes/index.html

Senator Elizabeth Warren and Tesla CEO Elon Musk are in the middle of a full-scale Twitter war. Warren called the world’s richest person a freeloader for paying $0 in income taxes in recent years. Musk responded with a series of personal attacks, calling Warren “Senator Karen” and claiming his income tax bill is about to be the largest in US history.

“Let’s change the rigged tax code so The Person of the Year will actually pay taxes and stop freeloading off everyone else,” she tweeted Tuesday.

Musk, who has never shied from a Twitter war, replied with a string of insults.

“You remind me of when I was a kid and my friend’s angry Mom would just randomly yell at everyone for no reason,” he said in one tweet.


Within 90 days of this, Musk owned Twitter, and became King of the Internet Trolls, bent on poisoning the voting public against Democrats and pimping right-wing lies and conspiracies.

So when you see Elon bouncing up and down like an aroused teen at a Justin Bieber concert, next to his 78 year old bloated rapist felon hero, realize it's all about Musk wanting more tax cuts for billionaires. He's not a "free speech absolutist," he's not the "savior of humanity." He just doesn't want to pay his fair share of taxes when he KNOWS Republicans will give him tax CUTS.
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Elizabeth Warrren triggered Musk with "Tax Musk & Bezos"...that's how we got so "bouncy" (Original Post) Miles Archer Oct 2024 OP
musk is trying to be the next trump southmost Oct 2024 #1
It's a "selling point" to the MAGAts in THIS election. Miles Archer Oct 2024 #2
You grok well. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Oct 2024 #5
He cannot be President WA-03 Democrat Oct 2024 #18
Eloon acts like an adolescent boy. Will he ever grow up? ms liberty Oct 2024 #3
He acts like a spoiled brat. OldBaldy1701E Oct 2024 #7
IRS Blue for the win Oct 2024 #4
I repeat the rich are the biggest Welfare Queens in the nation Stargazer99 Oct 2024 #6
Musk needs to be stripped of citizenship RJ_MacReady Oct 2024 #8
I don't know if you understand the irony in what you wrote. WarGamer Oct 2024 #11
is this a joke? RJ_MacReady Oct 2024 #12
I'm talking about the reaction you proposed. WarGamer Oct 2024 #13
Actually, there are current laws that allow for deportation Farmer-Rick Oct 2024 #17
The political opponent he supports spouts hitler-ian nazi-like threats dehumanizing Justice matters. Oct 2024 #15
Has he broken any laws? WarGamer Oct 2024 #16
He's a vindictive little *****, too. Duncan Grant Oct 2024 #9
And a drug addict just like his hero. #dorkmaga littlemissmartypants Oct 2024 #14
Senator Warren is right of course. WarGamer Oct 2024 #10
Logic out for me how you can avoid taxes by Farmer-Rick Oct 2024 #20
Sure. WarGamer Oct 2024 #21
Ohhh, Farmer-Rick Oct 2024 #22
Eat the rich multigraincracker Oct 2024 #19
Sen Warren is in a battle of wits with an unarmed man Generic Brad Oct 2024 #23

southmost

(834 posts)
1. musk is trying to be the next trump
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 11:13 AM
Oct 2024

by the next election cycle... a billionaire so successful that he has to be good for the national economy too🫠🤡 and many sucker's will fall for it

Miles Archer

(24,328 posts)
2. It's a "selling point" to the MAGAts in THIS election.
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 11:22 AM
Oct 2024

"WOW...you mean we can actually have TWO fabulously successful self-made billionaires on THE SAME TICKET who will run America like they run their fabulously successful businesses?"

And if you've followed recent reporting about Musk / Trump, what impressed Trump most was how Musk walked into Twitter and fired a large chunk of the staff.

Trump's plan...with or without Project 2025...is to fire Federal employees and replace them with Trump "loyalists."

So Trump needs a hatchet man with no conscience, feeling, or emotions. And that's Musk. And in return, Musk would get more of those Paul Ryan Tax Cuts for Billionaires.

That's the game being played here.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,366 posts)
18. He cannot be President
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 02:02 PM
Oct 2024

Due to his country of birth but yes he is will to lead MAGA into the future.

 

RJ_MacReady

(448 posts)
8. Musk needs to be stripped of citizenship
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 12:54 PM
Oct 2024

And deported. Also SpaceX should be seized by the federal government under the banner of national security. Enough is enough coddling this Nazi.

WarGamer

(18,860 posts)
11. I don't know if you understand the irony in what you wrote.
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 01:06 PM
Oct 2024

Deporting because he supports your political opponent and seizing their assets seems quite... Nazi-ish?

 

RJ_MacReady

(448 posts)
12. is this a joke?
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 01:12 PM
Oct 2024

He is literally spreading dangerous disinformation and plays footsies with Putin.

WarGamer

(18,860 posts)
13. I'm talking about the reaction you proposed.
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 01:13 PM
Oct 2024

We're a nation of laws... not damaged fee-fees.

Farmer-Rick

(12,786 posts)
17. Actually, there are current laws that allow for deportation
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 01:31 PM
Oct 2024

There are laws that allow for the deportation of legal immigrants following due process, (does not apply to citizens, like Puerto Ricans or Musk who is a naturalized US citizen.) for:

Participation in criminal acts

Being a threat to public safety

Violating their visa

https://www.usa.gov/deportation-process#:~:text=The%20U.S.%20may%20detain%20and,Violate%20their%20visa

Justice matters.

(10,079 posts)
15. The political opponent he supports spouts hitler-ian nazi-like threats dehumanizing
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 01:25 PM
Oct 2024
legal immigrants (like in Springfield, OH) and doesn't care about his stochastic terrorism that divides the country, not to mention his love of foreign dictators who are hellbent on destroying the US of A so, at the very least to strip him of all his federal government contracts should be on the table.

Duncan Grant

(8,938 posts)
9. He's a vindictive little *****, too.
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 12:55 PM
Oct 2024

He doesn’t seem to be well adjusted or self-aware — just stupidly competitive and vain. A familiar story.

WarGamer

(18,860 posts)
10. Senator Warren is right of course.
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 01:04 PM
Oct 2024

But DC doesn't seem to actually have the courage to tax wealth.

Proposals of a Billionaires Minimum Tax are encouraging but unlikely to pass... with resistance in both parties.

Like I've always said...

Musk evades taxes LEGALLY because he doesn't HAVE income some years.

He leads a really modest life, no yacht, a small house near SpaceX... he takes loans out for spending money which are non-taxable.

I'm not even sure he owns a car.

He's got private jets, of course... all in SpaceX name.

Musk is the classic case of one who HORDES wealth.

$260,000,000,000 just sitting around. Wrapped up in investments.

Farmer-Rick

(12,786 posts)
20. Logic out for me how you can avoid taxes by
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 03:00 PM
Oct 2024

Taking out loans for spending money?

So, say I get a loan on my paid off house. I would have to pay off the loan with something. So, I pay it off with my Social Security, which is taxable. So where does the tax savings come in? Even if I use capital gains to pay the loan, that's also taxable.

I'm not the most up to date on this. Maybe you can explainbit.

WarGamer

(18,860 posts)
21. Sure.
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 04:06 PM
Oct 2024

Asset Based Loans

Musk can take loans using his TSLA shares as collateral.

He knows he needs to sell shares every few years when he needs to pay massive taxes on his exercising stock options.

He just specifies the loan term he wants...

He might not even make payments. Might be a 5y balloon payment?

Then down the road when he's forced to sell shares he will pay off his loans.

If you have NO INCOME and don't sell any shares... you have NO income and can technically pay ZERO tax.

Musk has a number of years where he's paid ZERO.

Call it kicking the can down the road... but the richest man in the world can pay ZERO taxes in a year.

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