The Republican Party today is the same as the Confederacy of 1860.

[kentuck]

In a total role reversal, Republicans of today are looking to overthrow the government any way they can. If they have to steal the election, they will. If they have to declare Civil War, they will. If they have to tear down our democracy, they will. Trump is the anti-Lincoln, in that he wants to destroy our Union, whereas Lincoln wanted to preserve our Union.

The Confederacy of 1860 was fighting to keep people enslaved. The Republican Party of today is fighting to keep one person in power.

My thought is that the MAGA-Republican Party is the new Confederacy.

And are no less of a threat to our Union.

[Solly Mack]

1. They are fighting to enslave people as well. A person doesn't have to be in chains to be enslaved.

Fear enslaves and they'll use the threat of violence to keep people in line. The threat of prison. The threat of deportation. The threat of death.

[kentuck]

2. I think you are correct...

First, they came for the women...

[Solly Mack]

8. They are reaching for a world that never was and many of us are inconvenient to their desired reality.

[Ocelot II]

3. Not at all. The Confederacy was an attempt to establish a separate country.

The MAGA GOP is trying to completely take over this country.

[misanthrope]

4. It has become clear in retrospect

One of our nation's biggest mistakes among its many was not finding a way to more thoroughly shatter and overcome the culture that gave birth to the Confederate States of America. It was allowed to persist and its practitioners made it into a hallowed keepsake of a halcyon past that existed mostly in their imaginations.

[kentuck]

5. Well said.

And I'm sure we will look back and question why we made the mistakes we did in permitting something terrible to happen.

[misanthrope]

6. I am in my 60s

I won't be looking back for terribly much longer. And I fear the collapse of civilization wrought by climate change will ensure that no one will be able to look back much beyond then as the study of history will evaporate.

[orthoclad]

10. Plantation culture was an attempt

to re-create the English class system, exploiting the ultimate in stolen labor: enslavement.

[misanthrope]

12. Correct and there were two variants in the British colonies that became the U.S.

One was the model that dominated the Atlantic Coast and branched out from Virginia. It was more a direct descendant of the English ideas on feudalism and class.

The other was derived from a more brutal slave-centric system Europeans created in the Caribbean. That more strongly influenced the Deep South through Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, Florida and the Carolinas.

There were numerous commonalities between the two with small differences chiefly discernible to those who came to know them through exposure. Like the difference between French vanilla and old-fashioned vanilla.

[Shermann]

7. There is a humorous (but important) difference

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The bravery and commitment of the Confederate soldiers was remarkable. They would charge straight into the line of fire of cannons blasting grapeshot and muskets firing Minie balls. Their foe was usually a larger, better-equipped army. They did not have healthcare, and the "hospitals" of the day were primitive, unsanitary, and understaffed. A victory might mean a brief reprieve followed by more fighting at best, or disease or starvation at worst.

Contrast that with the likes of Bill Barr who threw down his proverbial musket and was the first to flee the battlefield.

[orthoclad]

9. The Covfeferacy

Not just the South anymore.
MAGA is an emergent phenomenon brought about by the seed crystal Trump. The Right Wing smells the opportunity to drown the Federal Government in the bathtub and make the zombie remains a wholly-owned subsidiary of America Inc.

[OldBaldy1701E]

11. Hear Hear! (n/t)