Trump Plans Madison Square Garden Rally

[RandySF]

Donald Trump plans to hold a rally at New York City’s iconic Madison Square Garden,” Bloomberg reports.

“His campaign is planning to hold the event on Oct. 27 — roughly a week before Election Day.”

“The event threatens to be a security and logistical nightmare, drawing Trump supporters to Manhattan, a Democratic stronghold… The rally is likely to draw protests and place additional burden on law enforcement officials.”




https://politicalwire.com/2024/10/09/trump-plans-madison-square-garden-rally/

[lark]

1. Sounds ominous to me! He's there to cause a shit storm??

He'll be totally thrilled if there is a riot and people get hurt.

[Kingofalldems]

11. That's exactly what he is up to.

[dalton99a]

2. 1939 Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939_Nazi_rally_at_Madison_Square_Garden

On February 20, 1939, a Nazi rally took place at Madison Square Garden, organized by the German American Bund. More than 20,000 people attended, and Fritz Julius Kuhn was a featured speaker. The Bund billed the event, which took place two days before George Washington's Birthday, as a pro-"Americanism" rally; the stage at the event featured a huge Washington portrait with swastikas on each side.[1] Approximately 100,000 anti-Nazi counter-protesters gathered outside, attempting to break through lines of police officers guarding the rally on three occasions. The Bund rapidly declined in the aftermath of the rally, with Kuhn being imprisoned for embezzlement by the end of the year.[2]

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[Solly Mack]

3. My first thought.

[Scrivener7]

28. Me too. Interesting that so many of us had the same reaction.

[Solly Mack]

30. We know Trump. We know his followers.

[Jack Valentino]

61. With Trump's sorry knowledge of history, I doubt he knows anything about that Bund rally---

unless he saw something recently posted about it...


Hope he's not planning on flying into New York.... I'm going to send him a message that British redcoats have taken over the airports...

[Solly Mack]

71. He'll want to nuke them. Better not.

[Jack Valentino]

73. 'We fought two wars so we wouldn't have to listen to

the fucking British!" ~ "Frasier" actor

Damn, what is the name of that movie?
The one about the many problems with building
'the Bradly Fighting vehicle' lol

Ah--- from 'The Pentagon Wars' !

[Sogo]

34. Me three....

[debm55]

37. agree

[Volaris]

43. Mine as well

[Solly Mack]

46. How could it not be, right? Knowing Trump.

[JohnSJ]

5. Exactly

[LeftInTX]

12. Ugh...my first thought...

[PCIntern]

14. My first thought as well

Dangerous times.

[Traildogbob]

36. You got it!!!!!

Exactly the plan. A great place to make some arrest's of terrorists that have escaped DOJ for J6.

[no_hypocrisy]

55. Back to the scene of the crime

[choie]

78. That's what immediately popped into my head

N/t

[DBoon]

4. perhaps Trump is inspired by another famous Madison Square Garden rally from the past?

On February 20, 1939, a Nazi rally took place at Madison Square Garden, organized by the German American Bund. More than 20,000 people attended, and Fritz Julius Kuhn was a featured speaker. The Bund billed the event, which took place two days before George Washington's Birthday, as a pro-"Americanism" rally; the stage at the event featured a huge Washington portrait with swastikas on each side.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939_Nazi_rally_at_Madison_Square_Garden

[kskiska]

44. My mother was in high school in Connecticut when that occurred

and remembered groups of students going down there for the rally.

[D_Master81]

6. Like he's paying for that

He doesn’t even pay some of these smaller venues. Like he’s going to pay for the Garden. Sounds like he’s feeding his ego. If he loses he’ll never be able to do a venue like that again

[newdeal2]

17. James Dolan is a Trump supporter

He’ll probably give him the arena for free.

[wnylib]

23. Or Musk will pay for it.

[Bayard]

7. They better get their money in advance

[CincyDem]

8. I wonder if it'll be in the MSG conference center...there's a room that seats 50.

Given the attendance records he’s been setting, I can’t imagine what his tiny crowd will look like in the garden.

[wnylib]

24. Not a rally for locals, but to draw Trumpists together in Dem territory

to create havoc.

Similar to when they tried to draw a truck protest group to DC to disrupt traffic and functioning.

[CincyDem]

40. Good point - hasn't thought of it as the MNC...Maga National Convention.

Time for lots of face to face planning and strategy sessions for Nov 5th and beyond that eliminate the risks of electronic surveillance.

Can’t wait.

[Jack Valentino]

62. I have my doubts they can fill the Garden. MAGA doesn't like to come into NYC---

(since he's been telling everyone they'd get shot trying to buy a loaf of bread, they're all scared of the big cities)

he couldn't even draw more than a handful of protesters to his TRIAL there!

[wnylib]

70. The trial was not during the campaign. All it drew from MAGAs were

some MAGA members of Congress.

As election day gets closer, I think that the MAGA faithful will feel more emboldened to show up in an aggressive move against "the libs." He has been riling them up with his rhetoric, lies, and religious posturing at Butler, PA.

The goal of the rally is to intimidate Trump's opponents. I don't think that the Trump campaign would try this move if they weren't sure of a turnout because it would be too embarrassing to have no one show up.

We saw through Vance's lies in the debate with Walz. But MAGAs were thrilled with the debate because Vance postured well as "normal" and came across as strong and articulate in their eyes.

Trump does not draw large crowds by himself any more. He needs gimmicks and guests to draw people together now, like having Musk appear at the "sacred" site of Butler, PA to celebrate God's Chosen One.

A goal of "taking it to the libs" in Manhattan, with guest speakers who appeal to MAGAs, could draw more people than just Trump showing up by himself in swing states or rural small towns.

If the people of Manhattan react with counter protests and clashes develop (maybe instigated by MAGA organizers), it would make good theater for Trump/Vance. I hope that people just ignore them. Or, play loud recordings of laughter just outside the rally perimeter.

[Jack Valentino]

72. "Not during the campaign" ?? I believe we had a presumptive presidential nominee

at the time. His name was President Joe Biden,
and the campaign has been going since 2022...

Trump called for them to show up and raise hell at his trials,
but hardly anyone did... it was pathetic.


We'll see what happens at the garden. Just saying, I have my doubts that he can fill it--
without Elon Musk funding bus transportation from all over the country,
and maybe DonOLD will threaten his own presumed supporters to show up-- lol


It is true-- all the candidates can get more supporters to show up at those big rallies
at the end of the campaign.... As I recall from late 1988,
Michael Dukakis had some pretty good ones---
but then, he wasn't a convicted felon

[wnylib]

74. The campaign did not get into full swing until after the conventions

regardless of people knowing who the presumptive candidates would be.

[Jack Valentino]

75. so much for President Joe Biden. Ok, Whatever.

We wouldn't have the campaign that we have now, if it wasn't for him--

but he was an old white guy... how soon we forget the campaign that he tried to wage.

[wnylib]

83. Was Biden actively campaigning during Trump's

NYC trial? I don't remember him holding campaign rallies and speeches then. The debate between Trump and Biden had not yet occurred.

[Conjuay]

82. When they realize their rolling coal trucks can't park on the streets, and they'll have to remove their

Trump flags to access any parking garage, perhaps they will turn around and go home 🏡.

[IbogaProject]

48. The old Felt Forum is up stairs under MSG

The Hulu Theater at Madison Square Garden boasts 5,500 seats. Madison Square Garden opened its doors to the public in 1968. The theater within the complex was originally named the Felt Forum after then-president Irving Michell Felt.
Smaller than MSG but well setup for TV. I saw James Brown there in 1992.

[nature-lover]

9. Hope his media outlets will broadcast his addled speech without edits.

[Moostache]

21. Good...let the people SEE and HEAR him babble like an addict in need of a fix...

That close to the election can only make him look worse and incoherence on TV still plays bad, especially if no one "both-sides" it...

[bluesbassman]

10. Where's he getting the money?

I can't imagine MSG and the NYCPD is sappy enough to not demand payment up front from that clown for all the logistics involved in an event like that. I'll believe it when I see it happen.

[wnylib]

25. Perhaps people like Elon Musk and Peter Thiel.

[bluesbassman]

29. A couple of world class chaos agents.

[tinrobot]

31. Where's he getting enough people to fill that place?

Be on the lookout for Craigslist ads promising people money to show up.

[Jack Valentino]

64. "They're emptying the jails, they're emptying the insane asylums" - DonOLD Trump

[jmowreader]

81. That won't be where they get them from

Transporting inmates from Rikers Island to a Trump rally will put the city afoul of the Eighth Amendment. Blue cities don't typically like to violate the Eighth Amendment if they can help it, so...no.

As for mental patients...don't you think exposing them to a Trump rally would set back their treatment? "Sorry, Nurse Ratched, you guys just HAVE to let me out. I'm nowhere near as crazy as that fucking idiot."

[tulipsandroses]

13. lol, how many people are they going to pay to come ?

He can’t fill MSG with NYers. Eloon will probably pay MAGATS from other states to go.

[wnylib]

27. Yes, they want to draw their own people into Dem territory

in order to create havoc. Trump's vengeance on NYC.

Maybe Ginni Thomas will hire buses for out-of-staters.

[obamanut2012]

15. Of course he does, like the good Nazi he is

[SamKnause]

16. Well it has happened before.

Must be a Nazi hangout.

It was packed in 1939. (20,000)

trump can compare the rally counts.

This is all perfectly normal.

Nothing to worry about.

[bucolic_frolic]

18. As fantastical as telling America in the debate that Haitians are eating dogs and cats

Understand, Trump thinks this is a good idea. He either doesn't know about the Bund rally, or he thinks America will embrace it.

[GoCubsGo]

19. He's full of shit.

That fucking dumbass didn't bother to check the schedule. There's a Rangers game the night before, and a Knicks game on the 28th. No way in hell they're going to hold a political rally on the day in between, when they're having to switch over between hockey and basketball. And, the MSC Theater is booked for a concert on the 27th. Can't wait to see what excuse he gives when his "plans" don't materialize. He's probably hoping everyone will forget about it the way he's going to do.

[NCDem47]

32. Maybe move it down the road to Four Seasons Landscaping?

[MorbidButterflyTat]

52. His ego stroking

Just saying something is so is enough for his deluded mind.

[Self Esteem]

66. Whether he does or not, I don't see how the Rangers and Knicks playing on different days will impact it.

Plenty of arenas have back-to-back-to-back days booked at arenas.

[jalan48]

20. Can the city deny his request?

[LiberalFighter]

59. The venue can.

There would still be the issue of using local law enforcement and cost.

[jalan48]

65. Thanks. I was curious if a local city could say no. It would seem a good idea given what Trump did on January 6th

[LiberalFighter]

68. If they were using a public venue like a city park or any location under control the city

A permit would likely be needed

[Vinca]

22. Hope they get the money up front.

[FHRRK]

67. They should

Full cost of arena rental, then add full cost of security and other related fees. Then double it and make payment due within one business day of contract signing, no later than 10/11.

The MAGAts balk, play the Jan 6. card.

[Joinfortmill]

26. Gonna be a lot of empty seats

[tinrobot]

33. Kamala really got to him with that debate comment about his crowd sizes

He's now obsessed with proving her wrong.

[Traildogbob]

35. "Be there, it'll be Wild"

“Stand down and stand by”, or, a Bannon fav, “All hells gonna break lose”.
OK NY Jews, get those lasers fined tuned for the KKKlan Jamboree. ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️Zap all those MoFo’s.
Especially that most flammable sack of whale blubber. 🐋🔥🔥🔥

[Jack Valentino]

63. Somebody better get word to Marjorie!!

[Prairie Gates]

38. I have said before and I'll say again, they are up to something in New York

Up to no good.

[orange jar]

42. Why New York, though?

Sure, there are a lot of red areas, but it's a fairly solidly blue state. What would he want out of New York?

[Prairie Gates]

45. That's what I'd like to know........... about it

[Retrograde]

57. Lots of cameras, lots of reporters

NYC is still the media hub, and holding a political event there automatically makes it more "newsworthy" than holding it in, say, Podunk or Peoria or Pasadena.

[LSparkle]

76. He's planned a rally in Coachella on Saturday

Not Pasadena but in a CA city that’s 98% Latino and 41% immigrant and in a blue district. Go figure ...

[Lonestarblue]

80. The upper crust of New York never accepted the low-class Trumps.

Donald has not forgiven them or the city for his perceived rejection.

[sdfernando]

39. Will there be swastikas and men in jackboots?

seems that is they way his father did it.

On edit: New York and Madison Square Garden need to get full payment IN ADVANCE, certified funds only!

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

41. 🤬

[JoseBalow]

49. I'm not really a fan of holocaust oven jokes

[Behind the Aegis]

47. What was old is new again.

[Buns_of_Fire]

50. Also appearing: The world-famous Muskettes!

Okay, they're not as well-known as the Radio City Music Hall Rockettes, and all they can do is jump up and down, and there's only one of them, and he's kinda homely, but such yuge enthusiasm!

[EarthFirst]

51. MAGA as the The Amerikadeutscher Volksbund rebrand...

How patently fitting.

[keithbvadu2]

53. Cash in advance.

[bucolic_frolic]

58. I know, I want to buy tickets so my seats will be vacant, anyone have 500 Reichsmarks?

[Jersey Devil]

54. Maybe Trump is going to a Billy Joel concert

Joel has a concert about once a month at the Garden, over 100 of them so far.

[sakabatou]

56. Haven't his handlers told him to stop doing public rallies?

[RJ_MacReady]

60. let him

Waste money and time.

[ecstatic]

69. hopefully he has to pay in advance.

Don't let him rob the city again.

[IcyPeas]

77. Should there be a counter protest? Against MAGA, against MSG?

some Good trouble?

[Figarosmom]

79. Nevermind

[Prairie Gates]

84. Are we sure he doesn't think Madison Square Garden is in Madison, Wisconsin?