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Dennis Donovan

(31,059 posts)
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 07:45 PM Oct 2024

Dana Milbank: Lot of empty seats at Trump rally in Reading, Pa. Arena has 7,200 seats.

Dana Milbank
Lot of empty seats at Trump rally in Reading, Pa. Arena has 7,200 seats.


6:55 PM · Oct 9, 2024







On edit: A newer view of the arena:

Jake Traylor
📍Reading, PA — Though most of the arena is full here, a few sections in the back are not (and are not just sectioned off for press either). Notable and unusual for a Trump rally.
Video in tweet below
7:39 PM · Oct 9, 2024




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Dana Milbank: Lot of empty seats at Trump rally in Reading, Pa. Arena has 7,200 seats. (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Oct 2024 OP
Trump is running out of gas. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2024 #1
He really is. He's doing two rallies a week. This time in 2016 he was doing as many as five a DAY. rsdsharp Oct 2024 #4
And he looks like he's maybe had 5 minutes of sleep in the last four years. Initech Oct 2024 #62
If Harris had a crowd like this CNN would be very concerned. 617Blue Oct 2024 #6
No, no you're wrong. BonnieJW Oct 2024 #25
I came here to say the same thing duncang Oct 2024 #27
That is what the trump campaign told me, I asked about the pictures and they said the main stream media Eliot Rosewater Oct 2024 #29
FEMA is keeping them away. dchill Oct 2024 #30
Because Harris and the dastardly dems wouldn't let them in. bullimiami Oct 2024 #35
That's right-- I forgot... ailsagirl Oct 2024 #41
Maybe his followers are tired vapor2 Oct 2024 #2
djt has told the "...you knew I was a snake" and Hannibal Lecter stories about 1,000 times. magicarpet Oct 2024 #14
Or finally realizing just how much BattleRow Oct 2024 #43
Many empty heads as well. 617Blue Oct 2024 #3
DUzy!🏆🏅 littlemissmartypants Oct 2024 #36
... ailsagirl Oct 2024 #40
Well, He just had a big rally at the site of His Crucifixion a day or two ago . . . hatrack Oct 2024 #5
Did he at least feed the 5,000? BamaRefugee Oct 2024 #11
Yeah, but they had to pay . . . hatrack Oct 2024 #16
It would be nice if they put time stamps on these photos. For all I know this might BamaRefugee Oct 2024 #7
I checked the live feed on youtube... that picture is hours ago. WarGamer Oct 2024 #18
I bet you did! W_HAMILTON Oct 2024 #49
I'm a big believer in my own signature line. WarGamer Oct 2024 #50
I'm on mobile and don't see it. W_HAMILTON Oct 2024 #51
My Signature on DU reads: WarGamer Oct 2024 #53
+1 Looks like others are starting to catch on. BannonsLiver Oct 2024 #58
I found video Wiz Imp Oct 2024 #19
The rally where they were leaving right after the debate, I think the one with DC Sarah, they stopped brewens Oct 2024 #34
Yep, it's suspicious that this video cuts out just before showing a view of the podium, which would TheRickles Oct 2024 #28
This one looks legit Sugarcoated Oct 2024 #59
Much better! Thanks for posting this. TheRickles Oct 2024 #61
My pleasure! Sugarcoated Oct 2024 #64
Don't forget the customary 50,000 attendees outside who could not get in. keithbvadu2 Oct 2024 #8
Maybe he couldn't afford his AI crowd generator. ananda Oct 2024 #9
There are 50,000 waiting outside to get in rogerballard Oct 2024 #10
How many can fit in a sewer pipe at one time? TheCowsCameHome Oct 2024 #21
... ailsagirl Oct 2024 #42
But RJ_MacReady Oct 2024 #12
Who told you that? OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2024 #17
lol RJ_MacReady Oct 2024 #20
Yeah. Several people said he's been getting much bigger crowds the last several weeks Wiz Imp Oct 2024 #24
K&R spanone Oct 2024 #13
I wonder if this will calm down the people who were freaking out about the size of the Butler crowd a few days ago? Wiz Imp Oct 2024 #15
He passed his Best Used By date and is heading into "what's that fuzzy stuff in the fridge?" territory. Torchlight Oct 2024 #22
He also spoke in Scranton earlier today Wiz Imp Oct 2024 #23
This is unfair to Trump, because Dan Oct 2024 #26
Perhaps people are finally understanding just how immoral Trump is after his LIES in relation to the hurricanes. Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Oct 2024 #31
Or at least how out of touch? littlemissmartypants Oct 2024 #44
That's clearly eleventy brazillion. Basso8vb Oct 2024 #32
I had to really laugh out loud on that one... FL_Jerry Oct 2024 #33
Welcome to DU, FL_Jerry ailsagirl Oct 2024 #38
Sorry to say I'm a lurker... FL_Jerry Oct 2024 #55
No kidding!! ailsagirl Oct 2024 #37
And I'm suppose to believe he is up in WI and MI? vercetti2021 Oct 2024 #39
Trump will lie and said it was a record crowd wolfie001 Oct 2024 #45
Puppet Show and Trump Rally VGNonly Oct 2024 #46
All the maga assholes from out of state went home after Klarkashton Oct 2024 #47
This is pretty much standard for both Trump and Vance lees1975 Oct 2024 #48
Curious: how well-attended are Vance's events? Beartracks Oct 2024 #52
MSG Rally bmichaelh Oct 2024 #54
Madison Square Garden Wednesdays Oct 2024 #56
Kick for empty seats 👿🤢 Cha Oct 2024 #57
Heres another take Sugarcoated Oct 2024 #60
Some context from someone in the area Amishman Oct 2024 #63
I am pretty sure bamagal62 Oct 2024 #65

rsdsharp

(12,002 posts)
4. He really is. He's doing two rallies a week. This time in 2016 he was doing as many as five a DAY.
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 07:51 PM
Oct 2024

Eliot Rosewater

(34,285 posts)
29. That is what the trump campaign told me, I asked about the pictures and they said the main stream media
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 09:10 PM
Oct 2024

doctored the pictures and to never believe anything media tells them only believe what der leader tells me.

BTW, while this is sarcasm, sort of, it is what over 60 million people believe.

magicarpet

(18,505 posts)
14. djt has told the "...you knew I was a snake" and Hannibal Lecter stories about 1,000 times.
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 07:58 PM
Oct 2024

A lot of people walk out from bordom,... many people run for the exit points too.

hatrack

(64,877 posts)
5. Well, He just had a big rally at the site of His Crucifixion a day or two ago . . .
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 07:52 PM
Oct 2024

And Orange Jesus didn't give sight to the blind, or regenerate an amputated limb, or ascend into Heaven.

Instead, it was the same old shit, and the crowd's tapped out and tired, and they don't need another shirt, or another ramble down Failing Memory Lane.

BamaRefugee

(3,884 posts)
11. Did he at least feed the 5,000?
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 07:56 PM
Oct 2024

I mean 5,000 Happy Meals wouldn’t break a bona fide billionaire.
And McDonalds has fishes and loaves right on the menu.

BamaRefugee

(3,884 posts)
7. It would be nice if they put time stamps on these photos. For all I know this might
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 07:53 PM
Oct 2024

Be 3 hours before starting time or 30 minutes after it ended.

If this was taken at the mid-point of the hate fest, I’m guessing a couple of thousand folks are too busy telling Quinnipiac pollsters how Kamala is going down in flames.



WarGamer

(18,611 posts)
53. My Signature on DU reads:
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 10:31 PM
Oct 2024

Good DU'ers don't propagandize other DU'ers

I have np problem with half truth or false memes on social media, they really do serve a purpose pumping up our base and creating trending hashtags and such things...

Like Couch Fucker.

Hilarious stuff and testament to the power of memes.

But there isn't anyone here on DU who needs convincing or needs to have their opinions "shaped" with misinformation.

Thus... obviously fake content on DU being passed on as fact is a disservice to DU'ers.

DU is at it's best when it's factual and even educational.

Just... IMHO

Wiz Imp

(9,990 posts)
19. I found video
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 08:12 PM
Oct 2024

The video started before Trump spoke, but after Trump started they were very careful with the cameras to never pan them past about the mid-point of the arena so you couldn't see the empty seats in the back. I gotta believe they would be sure to pan the whole arena if it was full. Also, you could see some empty seats in the areas they did show (to be fair, not many empty seats, but they definitely weren't all filled). Finally, they went to reporters outside the arena while they were still waiting for Trump to show up and there were no more than a handful of people outside.

 

brewens

(15,359 posts)
34. The rally where they were leaving right after the debate, I think the one with DC Sarah, they stopped
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 09:28 PM
Oct 2024

showing the audience members asking the questions and I thought that was weird. Someone got video showing the crowd walking out on him at about the same time. That was why.

TheRickles

(3,379 posts)
28. Yep, it's suspicious that this video cuts out just before showing a view of the podium, which would
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 09:10 PM
Oct 2024

let us see whether Trump is present and speaking to the crowd, or not even there yet. It'd be nice to be able to trust DU posts and not have to be as suspicious of them as when viewing Fox News clips.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,270 posts)
21. How many can fit in a sewer pipe at one time?
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 08:16 PM
Oct 2024

I would think it would restrict the flow of MAGAts waiting to get in.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,133 posts)
17. Who told you that?
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 08:02 PM
Oct 2024

We love crowd size reality here. Crowd size is Trump's ultimate dick pic. His crowd pics seem to be small and flaccid.

Wiz Imp

(9,990 posts)
24. Yeah. Several people said he's been getting much bigger crowds the last several weeks
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 08:26 PM
Oct 2024

However, that is not true. Outside of Butler over the weekend (which was a unique situation), his crowds have continued to be smaller than in the past and despite his insistence to the contrary, he is not filling even small arenas.

Wiz Imp

(9,990 posts)
15. I wonder if this will calm down the people who were freaking out about the size of the Butler crowd a few days ago?
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 07:58 PM
Oct 2024

I also saw an article in the past day or 2 with Steve Kornacki talking about Hispanic/Latino voters in PA. He specifically talked about Reading (whose population is now close to 70% Hispanic/Latino) and said it had shifted sharply from majority Democrat 4 years ago to majority Republican now and could be key for Trump to win the state. Well, it looks like they aren't overly enthusiastic about Trump. That's a ton of empty seats in an arena which already isn't overly large.

Torchlight

(6,810 posts)
22. He passed his Best Used By date and is heading into "what's that fuzzy stuff in the fridge?" territory.
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 08:17 PM
Oct 2024

Sure, there's a gonna be a few fans of his pretending it's something it's not, but once we realize they're trying to convince themselves more than anyone else, the desparately absurd narrative begins to make sense.

Wiz Imp

(9,990 posts)
23. He also spoke in Scranton earlier today
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 08:22 PM
Oct 2024

The video for that one shows lots of empty seats on the floor just 15 minutes or so before the (non-Trump) speakers started speaking. This was about 90 minutes before Trump started speaking. They conspicuously didn't really show much of the crowd once Trump started - they had the cameras completely fixated on him).

Dan

(5,178 posts)
26. This is unfair to Trump, because
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 09:07 PM
Oct 2024

We know, everybody knows, you know it - that there are several hundred thousand outside that couldn’t get in due to Biden’s Secret Service mandate.

Jmb 4 Harris-Walz

(1,117 posts)
31. Perhaps people are finally understanding just how immoral Trump is after his LIES in relation to the hurricanes.
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 09:12 PM
Oct 2024

littlemissmartypants

(33,572 posts)
44. Or at least how out of touch?
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 10:03 PM
Oct 2024

Not up with current events?

Maybe those so-called Christians that actually know the ten commandments suddenly remembered number nine.

Here's the kiddie's version in case he's lurking:

FL_Jerry

(59 posts)
33. I had to really laugh out loud on that one...
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 09:22 PM
Oct 2024

I'm going to use it when talking to Magas around here.

FL_Jerry

(59 posts)
55. Sorry to say I'm a lurker...
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 10:43 PM
Oct 2024

I've been around a long time, I just don't post much(means not at all . Everything is well covered by the time I see it so I enjoy reading the posts anyway.

I used to dl anti Bush media stuff from this url, not sure if it was the predecessor of this, but not really a message board back then. Scored Rush is a Nazi and I hate Republicans which I still listen to when I think about it.

wolfie001

(7,658 posts)
45. Trump will lie and said it was a record crowd
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 10:09 PM
Oct 2024

And his stupid cult will either A. believe him or B. say it's fake news. Rinse and repeat.

lees1975

(7,045 posts)
48. This is pretty much standard for both Trump and Vance
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 10:21 PM
Oct 2024

The enthusiasm level of their core base is not as high as it was at first. This is what the polls are missing. Of course, the media has ten Trump stories every day, and very little on Harris or Walz, but I don't think there's been a venue that they haven't packed to the rafters since they started.

bmichaelh

(1,179 posts)
54. MSG Rally
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 10:39 PM
Oct 2024

And Trump is having a rally at Madison Square Garden.

19,500

Trump prepare to be embarrassed.

Unless they buy up the seats and transport people into the arena.

Wednesdays

(22,589 posts)
56. Madison Square Garden
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 10:59 PM
Oct 2024

With 8.3 million people in NYC, they're bound to scrape together a few thousand cretins to attend.

Amishman

(5,929 posts)
63. Some context from someone in the area
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 02:43 PM
Oct 2024

Reading is a very impoverished city; median household income is 42k. It's also very Hispanic (Puerto Rican). It's also very blue.

The surrounding area (Berks county) is completely different - white, red, and better off financially (74k median household income).

The Republicans in the area hate Reading. They won't go into the city and are proud of it.

Some years back when the river flooded, I heard people joking it was a shame it didn't wash the whole city away.

But at the same time, there are a LOT of Trumpers within a 30 minute drive. Even if a lot of them won't go into Reading no matter what, I would have still expected there to be more than enough to pack Santander arena.

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