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Harris overtakes tRump (Original Post) Blue Full Moon Oct 2024 OP
interesting RJ_MacReady Oct 2024 #1
It's to keep everyone motivated. NCDem47 Oct 2024 #3
Saying TSF is ahead by 1 or 2 does not motivate me gab13by13 Oct 2024 #5
Hey, I agree with you! NCDem47 Oct 2024 #6
You're right. I don't think it motivates anybody kcr Oct 2024 #7
I think it causes fatigue Blue Full Moon Oct 2024 #12
100% this crimycarny Oct 2024 #31
Post removed Post removed Oct 2024 #2
This is going to be a really close election. everyonematters Oct 2024 #4
I'm writing postcards. pandr32 Oct 2024 #34
Oh my Goodness, pandr! I'm so sorry Cha Oct 2024 #38
Mahalo, Cha. pandr32 Oct 2024 #39
I know the feeling about voting for Hillary Cha Oct 2024 #40
I really thought that ceiling would shatter. pandr32 Oct 2024 #41
GOTV FOR Harris-Walz! Cha Oct 2024 #42
Losing isn't an option! pandr32 Oct 2024 #43
I am very enthusiastic, but I'm also prepared that there could be disappointment Walleye Oct 2024 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Oct 2024 #9
At least 25% of the public would not vote for a woman for president under any circumstances Walleye Oct 2024 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Oct 2024 #19
I don't see how any woman can not hate JD. I pity his wife and family. Walleye Oct 2024 #22
He is one disgusting man. Diamond_Dog Oct 2024 #32
As it turns out that's a perfect description of Trump. Not a recent immigrant, but hasn't had family here for long Walleye Oct 2024 #35
That's depressing, isn't it? Diamond_Dog Oct 2024 #26
Yes, and it's better than it used to be at that. At least now we have a female vice president and a second gentleman Walleye Oct 2024 #28
Absolutely. In order to fix the damage, we have to have tavernier Oct 2024 #11
I don't think it will be close Blue Full Moon Oct 2024 #13
I'm only hoping there are more of those secret, sensible female Republicans than we realize Walleye Oct 2024 #16
I'm cautiously optimistic crimycarny Oct 2024 #27
Unfortunately, most of the media frames it as a horse race, not the kind of choice you represented Walleye Oct 2024 #29
Great, but don't forget that we have voter suppression to deal with. Susan Calvin Oct 2024 #10
Generally I don't look at polls. Blue Full Moon Oct 2024 #14
Wait what? vercetti2021 Oct 2024 #17
I know Blue Full Moon Oct 2024 #20
It's just that women have been disappointed so many times in the past Walleye Oct 2024 #23
I know what many years of disappointment is like. Diamond_Dog Oct 2024 #30
And it's always, "we'll get them next time". This actually is the next time. Walleye Oct 2024 #33
I went to bed that night in 2016 pretty confident that Hillary would lock it up Diamond_Dog Oct 2024 #36
She's got him in donations, too: Harris over a billion, Tscf only $642 mill. lindysalsagal Oct 2024 #18
Yep Blue Full Moon Oct 2024 #21
I think when Nixon said he was not a crook, he meant he didn't profit from it personally Walleye Oct 2024 #25
I agree that's a very good sign Walleye Oct 2024 #24
Ugh, I hate the title "Madam President." intheflow Oct 2024 #37

gab13by13

(32,342 posts)
5. Saying TSF is ahead by 1 or 2 does not motivate me
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 07:38 AM
Oct 2024

Saying Kamala is ahead by 5 or 6 motivates me.

Then again, I may be different than most people, I gravitate to winners.

NCDem47

(3,470 posts)
6. Hey, I agree with you!
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 07:44 AM
Oct 2024

I’m not complacent.

I’ll crawl through broken glass to vote for Harris regardless.

kcr

(15,522 posts)
7. You're right. I don't think it motivates anybody
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 08:05 AM
Oct 2024

I think some people have bought into that and have good intentions. Competition should encourage people, right? It seems intuitive that this would apply to getting people to vote, too. But voting isn't a straight-up competition, not from the point of view of a voter. If a candidate is doing poorly in the polls, it will just make people think they aren't a good candidate. Or they'll think they shouldn't bother because candidate is going to lose anyway. If bad polling motivated voters, then the right wouldn't try so hard to skew them. Plus I think some are simply trying to dampen enthusiasm while claiming to do otherwise.

Blue Full Moon

(3,487 posts)
12. I think it causes fatigue
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 09:46 AM
Oct 2024

and cause some people to consider why bother it's already decided.

crimycarny

(2,090 posts)
31. 100% this
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 01:27 PM
Oct 2024

I hesitate to read posts about good polling news because I just can't read the inevitable "don't get complacent!" or "it's too close" replies. It's exhausting. I find hope energizing and fear exhausting and demotivating. The constant fear often causes me to disengage for my own sanity, which is not a good thing. If it's happening to me it's happening to others.

Hope draws people in, gets them motivated, and keeps them fighting and working hard for their cause. (And hope does not equal complacency). Doom and gloom does the opposite IMO. I'll continue to fight, regardless, but I'd rather do it with the wind of hope under my feet versus the heavy burden of fear weighing me down.

No one, and I mean No One, on this site is going to take the 2024 election for granted so the constant hang-wringing is annoying. I understand it, but I find it counterproductive.

Response to Blue Full Moon (Original post)

everyonematters

(4,158 posts)
4. This is going to be a really close election.
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 07:36 AM
Oct 2024

Keep knocking on doors, making phone calls, whatever you can do.

pandr32

(14,272 posts)
34. I'm writing postcards.
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 01:31 PM
Oct 2024

Currently sending them to Pennsylvania. It isn't easy, either. I broke both wrists in an accident in July and my handwriting could be better, but I am able with a little effort. It is good medicine for my writing wrist and good for my soul.
Since I live in Hawaii, each message begins with 'Aloha' and then their name. I feel I am making a connection across the thousands of miles. This is a large, diverse country.
All of us matter. All of us need to do whatever we can. This election is so important and democracy depends on us people.

Cha

(319,089 posts)
38. Oh my Goodness, pandr! I'm so sorry
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 06:21 PM
Oct 2024

you broke 2 wrists!... one was bad enough back in the day.

Mahalo so much for writing postcards to Pennsylvania!

pandr32

(14,272 posts)
39. Mahalo, Cha.
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 06:53 PM
Oct 2024

It's the least I can do. I was a delegate for Hillary Clinton and was super emotional when I voted for her and devastated when she/we lost.

Cha

(319,089 posts)
40. I know the feeling about voting for Hillary
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 06:59 PM
Oct 2024

the Heartbreaking Loss. It must have been More so being a Delegate..

pandr32

(14,272 posts)
41. I really thought that ceiling would shatter.
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 08:32 PM
Oct 2024

As women we all felt the loss, and to that lump of toxic waste! Truly devastating.
We've been in an abusive relationship ever since.
Go Harris/Walz!

Walleye

(44,813 posts)
8. I am very enthusiastic, but I'm also prepared that there could be disappointment
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 08:07 AM
Oct 2024

After Hillary‘s loss, I told my nephew, women are used to this kind of disappointment. It happens throughout our whole life. vote blue all the way.

Response to Walleye (Reply #8)

Walleye

(44,813 posts)
15. At least 25% of the public would not vote for a woman for president under any circumstances
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 10:08 AM
Oct 2024

Of course, most of them are Republicans already or Trumpers

Response to Walleye (Reply #15)

Diamond_Dog

(40,589 posts)
32. He is one disgusting man.
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 01:28 PM
Oct 2024

I see Trump Vance signs here and there and wonder if the homeowner has a wife and if she’s on board with those two. I sure don’t understand people any more. I mean, come on, how much more odious can those two be??? I think they have all bought into the “scary rapist immigrants living off your tax dollars” thing.

Walleye

(44,813 posts)
35. As it turns out that's a perfect description of Trump. Not a recent immigrant, but hasn't had family here for long
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 01:31 PM
Oct 2024

Walleye

(44,813 posts)
28. Yes, and it's better than it used to be at that. At least now we have a female vice president and a second gentleman
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 01:18 PM
Oct 2024

I would say that Kamala represents change, the biggest change possible

Blue Full Moon

(3,487 posts)
13. I don't think it will be close
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 09:51 AM
Oct 2024

Trump can't fill venues. JD is so unpopular. I know right wing women who are going to vote for Kamala but are telling their husbands that they are voting for tRump.

Walleye

(44,813 posts)
16. I'm only hoping there are more of those secret, sensible female Republicans than we realize
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 10:09 AM
Oct 2024

crimycarny

(2,090 posts)
27. I'm cautiously optimistic
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 01:17 PM
Oct 2024

I don't remember a time when the other party, especially the "party line no matter what" GOP, has openly come out against their own candidate. This truly is a different election from any other in my lifetime and we have some voters who'd normally vote GOP, or wouldn't vote at all, becoming motivated to vote in order to ensure Trump never gets close to the WH again.

Hopefully, the choice between a sane competent woman President versus an insane criminal male President helps trumps (no pun intended) any reluctance to vote for a woman.

Walleye

(44,813 posts)
29. Unfortunately, most of the media frames it as a horse race, not the kind of choice you represented
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 01:21 PM
Oct 2024

Right now, it should be clear to people with their choices. But there is so much bullshit flying around.

Susan Calvin

(2,438 posts)
10. Great, but don't forget that we have voter suppression to deal with.
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 09:35 AM
Oct 2024

Not to mention the Electoral College.

The polls ain't the election.

Blue Full Moon

(3,487 posts)
14. Generally I don't look at polls.
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 09:54 AM
Oct 2024

But this was so positive. I think most mainstream media is actually for any GOP. Bush Jr's pioneers bought up most to spread right wing propaganda.

Diamond_Dog

(40,589 posts)
30. I know what many years of disappointment is like.
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 01:23 PM
Oct 2024

As a woman and a Cleveland Guardians fan……

Walleye

(44,813 posts)
33. And it's always, "we'll get them next time". This actually is the next time.
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 01:29 PM
Oct 2024
And if we don’t do it right, it could be our last chance. Actually I thought that with Hillary, at least for my lifetime. This is the second bite of the apple I didn’t think we would get. I am very hopeful, but my mind is too realistic to believe it’s gonna be a lock

Diamond_Dog

(40,589 posts)
36. I went to bed that night in 2016 pretty confident that Hillary would lock it up
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 01:34 PM
Oct 2024

Then when I got up the next morning and turned on my tablet and saw the NYT headline TRUMP TRIUMPHS I immediately felt like I’d been punched in the stomach and almost threw up. So, like you, Walleye, I won’t relax until I see the results with my own eyes. In the meantime it’s like anxiety on steroids.

Blue Full Moon

(3,487 posts)
21. Yep
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 11:33 AM
Oct 2024

I seen an interview with Michael Moore and he said Harris is going to win. He actually is pretty accurate even if, don't want to hear it.
Can't believe it was even a question. GOP running a criminal. I do believe it is to exonerate Nixon. But we would have never been in this mess if he would have been punished and not pardoned.

Walleye

(44,813 posts)
25. I think when Nixon said he was not a crook, he meant he didn't profit from it personally
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 01:07 PM
Oct 2024

It’s entirely different now Donald Trump’s presidency and candidacy is all about how much money he can make. Never spends any of it on his own campaign though.

intheflow

(30,180 posts)
37. Ugh, I hate the title "Madam President."
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 06:13 PM
Oct 2024

I know it's an honorific, but Madam also means wife and prostitute (which really just illustrates how deeply misogyny is ingrained in English). You KNOW that's how MAGA-folk will spin it.

Much better are:

President Harris!
Ms. Harris!

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