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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 11:58 AM Dec 2012

Intelligence Community: U.S. Out As Sole Superpower By 2030

By BYRON TAU | 12/10/12 9:54 AM EST
A new report by the intelligence community projects that the United States will no longer be the world's only superpower by 2030.

"In terms of the indices of overall power – GDP, population size, military spending and technological investment – Asia will surpass North America and Europe combined," the report concludes.

“Global Trends 2030: Alternative Worlds" — prepared by the office of the National Intelligence Council of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence — projects that the "unipolar" world that emerged after the fall of the Soviet Union will not continue.

"With the rapid rise of other countries, the 'unipolar moment' is over and no country – whether the U.S., China, or any other country – will be a hegemonic power," the report argues.

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http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/12/intelligence-community-us-out-as-sole-superpower-by-151519.html

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Intelligence Community: U.S. Out As Sole Superpower By 2030 (Original Post) Purveyor Dec 2012 OP
You don't have to be intelligent to know sooner is likelier Coyotl Dec 2012 #1
The USA ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #2
It will be spent on debt from wars instead of on wars Coyotl Dec 2012 #6
If that's the case Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #3
Oh, dear. We'll lose our celebrity status. Welll, that's showbiz. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #4
It is already over in the sense of our ability to cow other populations FarCenter Dec 2012 #5
"by 2030"???? dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #7
A re read of the Fall of the Roman Empire is pretty chilling. libdem4life Dec 2012 #8
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
1. You don't have to be intelligent to know sooner is likelier
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:07 PM
Dec 2012

much sooner as the USA runs out of money.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
6. It will be spent on debt from wars instead of on wars
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:54 PM
Dec 2012

because the debt from wars is so burdensome that war cannot be afforded.

Uncle Joe

(58,349 posts)
3. If that's the case
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:12 PM
Dec 2012

the U.S. should prepare for a soft landing and that will be easier to accomplish in a world full of friends versus a planet filled with antagonists.

The U.S. should be an ardent supporter of the peoples' democratic aspirations first and foremost, it should also aggressively lead the rest of the world in developing and using green, sustainable technology.

Thanks for the thread, Purveyor.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
5. It is already over in the sense of our ability to cow other populations
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:29 PM
Dec 2012

We can still topple other governments at will, but we cannot force populations to behave as we wish.

The US is unwilling to either take or inflict enough casualties to accomplish that.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
7. "by 2030"????
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 01:32 PM
Dec 2012

More "by 2015"...
While we are busy destabilizing the Middle East, China and Russia and busy making pacts with their closest partners and each other.
No way this country can afford to maintain all the outposts we have created in an attempt to ring China and Russia.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
8. A re read of the Fall of the Roman Empire is pretty chilling.
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 01:35 PM
Dec 2012

The Major Causes for the Fall of the Roman Empire

Antagonism between the Senate and the Emperor ... Obama and Boehner
Decline in Morals...Reality Shows a la Honey Boo Boo, trashy music videos, worship of violence et al
Political Corruption and the Praetorian Guard...Corporations and The Beltway
Fast expansion of the Empire...Regime Change
Constant Wars and Heavy Military Spending...This is obvious
Barbarian Knowledge of Roman Military Tactics...trying to keep nukes/WMD to ourselves and buddies
Failing Economy...Up and down
Unemployment of the Working Classes (The Plebs)...Right on
The 'Mob' and the cost of the 'Games'...endless sports and government building huge new stadiums
Decline in Ethics and Values...(many different thoughts on this one)
Slavery ... Prison inmates and WalMart-type "employment"
Natural Disasters...Climate Change
Christianity...Muslims
Barbarian Invasion...The only one that doesn't come to mind...could be lots of things


http://www.roman-colosseum.info/roman-empire/causes-for-the-fall-of-the-roman-empire.htm
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