To me it is quite evident that Trump is just in the race as a place holder to get Vance into the VP position so

[LiberalArkie]

that whoever Vances VP will be in place. Much like GW Bush was president so that Cheney could control things. And before then Reagan was elected so that Bush 1 would be in place.

So the question is who would be Vances "Brain"?

I think that is a crucial question. The person will be like Bush 1 and Cheney.

[OLDMDDEM]

1. I have been thinking along this line also.

[Ocelot II]

2. Vance's overlords are the billionaire techbros like his sugar daddy Peter Thiel, and Eloon.

Also the Christian nationalists, with a little encouragement from Putin.

[FalloutShelter]

4. This!

[onenote]

3. Stephen Miller pulls the strings. And neither Trump nor Vance control him.

Vance won't control anything.

[LiberalArkie]

11. Just like Trump is another GW and Cheney was Bush's brains, and Bush1 was Reagans brains,

who will be Vances VP or brains?

[hlthe2b]

5. I think that is "the plan," but Trump is likely deluded enough to not realize (or at least fully realize/support it)

I think the $$$ tech guys including Peter Thiel and others (directly or indirectly including Musk?)
are united in this I'll little "project." Both TSF and Donald JR are just useful idiots in all this, IMHO.

[Ocelot II]

7. I'm sure Trump has no idea that he's the Trojan horse, just like he has no idea

that he's as mad as a box of frogs. Sons Beavis and Butthead and the MAGA cult members haven't figured any of it out, either.

[hlthe2b]

10. Agree. Having Vance anywhere near the Oval Office is every bit as appalling/devastating as Trump

[Buns_of_Fire]

6. But *rump has to win for that to happen.

And I swear, he seems to be going out of his way to alienate everybody (except, of course, the magat zombies).

[Prairie Gates]

8. Fanciful

[tavernier]

13. Really?

I have my doubts that he can even tie his shoes anymore and they all know it. But Vance won’t be in charge. The 2025 gang will. I’m sure that’s been the plan for a long time now.

[lastlib]

9. No, he's in it purely for his own ego....

...and aggrandization. As a colossal narcissist, he isn't a deep-enough thinker to conceive what happens when he's not there any more.

However, Vance could be thinking along these lines, now that he's on the ticket.....

[usaf-vet]

16. Wouldn't Vance be in a clear spot to promote the 25th Amendment and eliminate any questionable other activities?

Trump provides him daily with data to support the implementation of the 25th Amendment.

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to ...

You can fill in the blank. Unable to tell the truth. Exhibit symptoms of dementia. He attempted a coup that failed. Or he gave covid tests to Putin when Americans were desperate to find testing kits

[ananda]

12. Steven Miller, Steve Bannon, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel...

would be running things in true Nazi style.

We must not give them that chance.

[GreenWave]

17. And frustrated apratheid amongst them too.

Hence, forced babies to placate their fears of being outnumbered.

[doc03]

14. Imagine how many years Vance could be

dicktator if they are successful with project 2025.

[NCDem47]

15. Simple plan:

1. Use Trump and his MAGAloons voters to secure White House
2. When in (which he won't!, but this is their plan), Trump can stay out of jail, grift, golf, enact personal retribution projects, rubberstamp whatever the puppetmasters want
3. Vance consolidates his power behind the scenes as MAGA 2.0

[yardwork]

18. I think they're propping Trump up enough to get him across the finish line.

If he wins, it won't be long before Vance is president, one way or the other.

If Trump loses, they'll have another one like him in 2028.

[milestogo]

19. Vance is fucking scary.