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Cyrano

(15,388 posts)
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 01:07 PM Oct 2024

Here's why Kamala will win

WOMEN!

The "polls" are showing that the election is a virtual tie. I believe that's bullshit.

The issue that will make the difference is a woman's control of her own body.

Many Republican women live in red states or swing states. Some are MAGAs and some aren't that extreme. Their husbands, families, friends, neighbors are all conservative Republicans. These women publicly state that they will vote for Trump because they fear being shunned and threatened.

But, once they're in that voting booth, they don't have to fear what anyone else may think of them. They will vote for their own freedom of choice. They will vote for owning their own bodies. They will vote for Kamala Harris.

They will then exit that voting booth and proudly tell everyone that they voted for Trump.

And the votes of all these women, (that don't show up in any polls), will help make Kamala Harris the next President of the United States.

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Johnny2X2X

(24,210 posts)
2. Polls don't show that
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 01:09 PM
Oct 2024

Poll average shows Kamala up almost 3. Poll averages in the swing states show her up in NV, WI, PA, and MI.

It this were reversed and Trump was up, people would be saying "it's over."

Johnny2X2X

(24,210 posts)
12. Polling averages don't come with Margins of Error
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 01:41 PM
Oct 2024

Individual polls do. Polling averages could still be wrong, but they just don't come with MOEs.

Cyrano

(15,388 posts)
13. Yeah but there's that "margin of error" thing.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 01:42 PM
Oct 2024

Dems I know are living in fear that the beast could "win"/steal the election. They see the same numbers you mention, yet it doesn't comfort them.

"Lost" votes, "cleansed" voting lists, misinformation about polling places, gerrymandered districts, and so many other voter suppression tactics are the weapons Republicans are using, right out in the open.

The power of the women's vote that I speak of in the OP is not that apparent. I try telling that to those whose "anxiety level" has hit 10, but it doesn't seem to help.

But I truly believe this (hidden) women's vote will make all the difference.

Quiet Em

(2,937 posts)
3. Women will absolutely play a HUGE role.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 01:11 PM
Oct 2024

But we need everybody we can get on our side, and Kamala Harris is out there speaking to all of them and getting their votes.

Doodley

(11,913 posts)
5. My wife pretends to her Republican family she's for Trump. She hates Trump! She fears that if she says what she
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 01:13 PM
Oct 2024

thinks, they will cancel her!

LakeVermilion

(1,584 posts)
6. You should know...
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 01:14 PM
Oct 2024

In some states it is legal for husbands to enter the voting booth and “help” their spouse cast their vote.

Jmb 4 Harris-Walz

(1,117 posts)
8. Only if SHE asks for his help; otherwise they won't be allowed. But if that does become an issue
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 01:19 PM
Oct 2024

she could always go alone to early voting or even request a mail in ballot.

AllyCat

(18,846 posts)
9. The polls since Roe v Wade fell have been consistently showing dems underperforming...the BALLOT BOX is
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 01:26 PM
Oct 2024

where voters are showing the polls are wrong. The will of the voters, even in red states, are not being represented in these polls.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
14. We can't count on GOP women to jump ship.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 01:59 PM
Oct 2024

If Kamala is going to win, it will be because women (and men) on our side turned out en masse.

I think the extent to which GOP women will cross over unexpectedly (and, therefore, not reflected in the polls) is significantly overestimated.

Cyrano

(15,388 posts)
15. Yep, we need a huge turnout from all
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 02:23 PM
Oct 2024

Yet, I believe there are tens of thousands of women whom I've referenced in the OP. And in swing states, they are the ones who can bring home victory.

Quiet Em

(2,937 posts)
16. To back you up here
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 02:24 PM
Oct 2024
Former President Donald Trump is struggling to win over white women, according to polling analysis by CNN.


According to pollster and political analyst Harry Enten, white women have historically supported Republican candidates in presidential elections, with Mitt Romney winning the demographic by 9 points in 2012, and Trump by 6 and 7 points in 2016 and 2020, respectively.

However, according to Enten's analysis, Trump is not faring so well among white women this year, leading the demographic by just 1 point.

"He's doing the worst, if this holds, for a GOP candidate this century among white women," said Enten, who previously worked for FiveThirtyEight


https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-donald-trump-polls-white-women-1970006

Wounded Bear

(64,328 posts)
17. Women tend to poll poorly...I heard that on a talk show recently. I believe it.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 02:33 PM
Oct 2024

I also believe that women will turn out in the voting booths, too. Remember the March on Jan 20, 2021. The organizing and lead up to that was pretty low key, but women turned out all over the world in support of their loathing of trump. I'm counting on that kind action again.



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