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lindysalsagal

(22,915 posts)
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 11:47 AM Oct 2024

Please don't reply to negative posts about TSCF winning. Let them fall through without replies.

This "what if" crap doesn't belong here, so, let it fall. Thanks.

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Please don't reply to negative posts about TSCF winning. Let them fall through without replies. (Original Post) lindysalsagal Oct 2024 OP
Yes, I was just thinking the GOP are now engaging in hypothetical false equivalency Walleye Oct 2024 #1
Yes, better to let your investments evaporate misanthrope Oct 2024 #2
Do it without demoralizing others with. Demsrule86 Oct 2024 #10
How does pointing out possible danger "demoralize" anyone? misanthrope Oct 2024 #15
Agreed - "what if?" isn't "oh noes!!" TommyT139 Oct 2024 #19
Hear, hear peppertree Oct 2024 #46
Posts with titles that begin "tRump will ... " (in January) are "oh noes" Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2024 #71
Fine, make a plan NJCher Oct 2024 #61
"What's not constructive is using DU as a therapy group, expressing 'fear' and that your 'back is to the wall.'" misanthrope Oct 2024 #69
This is exactly right dwayneb Oct 2024 #87
Thanks misanthrope Oct 2024 #91
A whole lot of DUers seems really, really worried about how easily other people are supposedly "demoralized" RidinWithHarris Oct 2024 #62
Dispassionate analytical look at the data dwayneb Oct 2024 #88
The best data are actual behavior, not self-reported attitudes wryter2000 Oct 2024 #90
Please don't tell me what I should or shouldn't reply to NoRethugFriends Oct 2024 #3
Please don't tell Lindsey not to view garbage posts. Gaytano70 Oct 2024 #5
And I did that where? NoRethugFriends Oct 2024 #12
Please don't confuse "please don't" with "don't" Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2024 #34
I read it correctly the firs time. NoRethugFriends Oct 2024 #38
Then you misinterpreted it. "Please don't" is not a command Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2024 #64
I did not misinterpret it NoRethugFriends Oct 2024 #66
Do you write "Please don't" when you mean "Do not"? Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2024 #70
I don't suggest to other people what they should or shouldn't post. NoRethugFriends Oct 2024 #72
So your "tell me to" has now softened to "suggestion" and you don't like "suggestions"? Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2024 #73
genug NoRethugFriends Oct 2024 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author RidinWithHarris Oct 2024 #58
You are right. Demsrule86 Oct 2024 #4
Agree 👍 anciano Oct 2024 #6
Yeah but, gab13by13 Oct 2024 #7
What does TSCF mean? Lebam in LA Oct 2024 #8
The Sick Convicted F%# lindysalsagal Oct 2024 #9
TY birdographer Oct 2024 #28
Thank You! Lebam in LA Oct 2024 #54
I've never understood DeepWinter Oct 2024 #37
Hmmm. Late June 2024 NoRethugFriends Oct 2024 #39
Understanding How The Internet Works Is Vital ProfessorGAC Oct 2024 #51
Beetlejuice effect Dear_Prudence Oct 2024 #52
That's funny! MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2024 #76
Nameplay is fun NJCher Oct 2024 #56
I had a cat named Petey. hay rick Oct 2024 #57
Hugs to you for taking in Petey NJCher Oct 2024 #63
I was going to ask that. First it was TFG, briefly TLG, TSF, now TSCF Martin Eden Oct 2024 #86
Recommended. H2O Man Oct 2024 #11
Biden won by 7 million True Blue American Oct 2024 #14
Right. H2O Man Oct 2024 #22
Don't point out the obvious wryter2000 Oct 2024 #31
Thank you!🌈🥰✔️👏 True Blue American Oct 2024 #13
I've also started to call out the "why try?" and "nothing matters" type posts. Maru Kitteh Oct 2024 #16
Amen. Wednesdays Oct 2024 #21
If voting meant nothing, why are they trying to steal it? If your vote meant nothing they'd be giving you more votes ... marble falls Oct 2024 #30
I liked Eeyore H2O Man Oct 2024 #23
GOTV, don't "doomsday" the vote. Duncan Grant Oct 2024 #17
That's how I'm looking at it SomedayKindaLove Oct 2024 #45
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ PortTack Oct 2024 #50
Agreed. edisdead Oct 2024 #18
Here's an idea Mosby Oct 2024 #20
But I'm *concerned* and how to I reply to someone I'm debating with on FB?! Coexist Oct 2024 #24
Also beware of posters who try to minimize Russia's casualties in Ukraine BannonsLiver Oct 2024 #25
Don't "beware" of them. Reply with facts. Facts, facts, facts!!!!!! nt LAS14 Oct 2024 #74
The Putinite Eloon loving troll I'm talking about isn't here to engage in discussion BannonsLiver Oct 2024 #77
How do you know why they're here??? nt LAS14 Oct 2024 #79
Even if you happen to be right... LAS14 Oct 2024 #80
lol WarGamer Oct 2024 #81
Too bad you can't use a larger font!!! I get tired of all the whimpering, too!!! marble falls Oct 2024 #26
I mute the TV when they start with wryter2000 Oct 2024 #27
I trash ALL threads about polls. wnylib Oct 2024 #41
Rec n/t malaise Oct 2024 #29
What is claudette Oct 2024 #32
The Sick Convicted F%$ lindysalsagal Oct 2024 #33
You can use it for Vance too! AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2024 #84
I don't know what the "C" stands for, but wnylib Oct 2024 #42
"Convicted" Is The "C" For Most Using That Acronym ProfessorGAC Oct 2024 #53
Unfortunately, I'm seeing more and more first time posters posting this nonsense, MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2024 #35
What if.........🤔 Clouds Passing Oct 2024 #36
OhpleasegodYES!pleasepleasegodplease!!! Think. Again. Oct 2024 #44
Since you are telling people how to post SCantiGOP Oct 2024 #40
Why? ForgedCrank Oct 2024 #43
I don't I am just Disgusted by them. & in the Trash they go. Cha Oct 2024 #47
Agree..nothing even remotely close should be posted on the subject. PortTack Oct 2024 #48
Why?????? It's a Democrtaic DISCUSSION board. Are we afraid to discuss????????? nt LAS14 Oct 2024 #67
And we live in utopia. Nothing will go wrong! Everything is hunky dory LeftInTX Oct 2024 #49
Is this Democratic Underground or Censorship Central? wtf polichick Oct 2024 #55
Nothing but happy thoughts! I SAID NOTHING BUT HAPPY THOUGHTS!!! RidinWithHarris Oct 2024 #59
What is TSCF? themaguffin Oct 2024 #60
Good advice. We get enough crap elsewhere about djt vs. here on DU. I'd prefer not to see it here, of all places! SWBTATTReg Oct 2024 #65
For me a safe spot like DU is a place where virtually anything can be discussed. nt LAS14 Oct 2024 #68
Wow MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2024 #75
Yeah, it's like Wednesdays Oct 2024 #82
Thank you bdamomma Oct 2024 #83
I searched for TSCF but don't see the posts you refer to. DiamondShark Oct 2024 #85
The sick convicted f$&@ lindysalsagal Oct 2024 #89

misanthrope

(9,495 posts)
2. Yes, better to let your investments evaporate
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 11:49 AM
Oct 2024

Who needs to make preparations for a bumpy road, after all?

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
10. Do it without demoralizing others with.
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 11:57 AM
Oct 2024

scary scary that actually demoralizes voters. Why so defensive ?

misanthrope

(9,495 posts)
15. How does pointing out possible danger "demoralize" anyone?
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 12:12 PM
Oct 2024

That's seems equivalent to thinking that sounding a severe weather watch "demoralizes" people into not making preparations.

Like many disabled people, I depend on the social safety net for sustenance and medical care. Additionally, I am overseeing the care for my 81-year-old, Alzheimer's-ridden father. My fear of what will happen should Trump and his GOP acolytes win makes me feel more invested in Democratic victories, more resolute that they MUST win. My back is to the wall here.

TommyT139

(2,357 posts)
19. Agreed - "what if?" isn't "oh noes!!"
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 12:24 PM
Oct 2024

I am also more-than-average vulnerable to a Trump takeover (imo the only way he'd get back to WH).

I am very glad that here on DU was posted awhile back a link to how some international LGBTQ activists are in discussions about mutual support should the worst happen. We all have different ways of getting through the time between now and when the next president takes office.

peppertree

(23,343 posts)
46. Hear, hear
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 02:01 PM
Oct 2024

As they say: hope - and work - for the best; but cope with the rest.

I still think it's unlikely this great country will have to be afflicted with a second Needy Amin regime - but there's no denying it's possible.

And if it's possible, it behooves us to start thinking of the best decisions going forward in that case - because you know the fat bastard and his toadies will.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
71. Posts with titles that begin "tRump will ... " (in January) are "oh noes"
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 04:17 PM
Oct 2024

A clearer mind not clouded with fear and "oh noes" would write "tRump would ..." which is phrasing that is contingent on him converting a possibility into an accomplishment and that contingency should be stated. Like "tRump would implement Project 2025 if he wins".

"will" is a definite word that presumes he won. Unfortunately there are a few too many posts with "will" and its presumption that he will win.

I think this is the kind of thing that prompted the OP.

NJCher

(43,165 posts)
61. Fine, make a plan
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 02:48 PM
Oct 2024

I'll even give you a tip if you can go to Facebook. There are small groups of people there who are collaborating on where and when they'll go if he manages to get back in. Most of these people are highly visible types who have publicly criticized him but not all of them. They compare notes on where to go, what to do with their house, etc. That's constructive.

What's not constructive is using DU as a therapy group, expressing "fear" and that your "back is to the wall." Find constructive groups with people who are in a similar situation and compare plans. It would alleviate your fears and give you a start if something like this should happen.

Emotions are contagious. Look at the positive feelings Kamala has spread!

misanthrope

(9,495 posts)
69. "What's not constructive is using DU as a therapy group, expressing 'fear' and that your 'back is to the wall.'"
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 03:52 PM
Oct 2024

So much for the saw that Democrats practice more empathy than the opposing tribe.

dwayneb

(1,107 posts)
87. This is exactly right
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 08:33 AM
Oct 2024

And it's what has gotten Democrats and Liberals into so much trouble over the years. In a way we've become "hope addicts" The only one in my opinion that ever consistently got it right was Bernie Sanders. That old socialist understood with crystal clarity where Trump and MAGA were heading, and the ultimate danger they present to every one of us. He wasn't afraid to say it and he never glibly danced around the truth.

Absolutely the Harris campaign is paying close attention to the polling trend, of course they are smart enough to look at poll aggregates and to throw out the outliers - but they are relying on that information to decide where to spend their $$ and where to go for their final blitz. I will say this, at least some Democrats are taking the threat seriously this time around unlike the Clinton campaign in 2016 where the general ambivalence handed a victory to the Fascist Right.

I am so sorry to hear about your situation, there are millions like you. And it's more than losing our safety net. If the MAGA fascists manage to seize power, it will be our very freedoms that will be at stake.

misanthrope

(9,495 posts)
91. Thanks
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 02:03 PM
Oct 2024

I only included the stuff about my situation because someone described my tone as "defensive." I provided context.

Agreed on your other points as well.

RidinWithHarris

(790 posts)
62. A whole lot of DUers seems really, really worried about how easily other people are supposedly "demoralized"
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 02:54 PM
Oct 2024

It's bullshit. Political campaigns wouldn't themselves send out all of those "We're in deep trouble! Send us money!" pleas if avoiding negative thoughts was truly so necessary and important to electoral success.

I think this really boils down to superstitious magical thinking... you must "think positive to manifest the positive", "negative energy" will bring you down, etc., etc.

Hey, do whatever head games you need to do for yourself, but don't expect everyone else to play along.

dwayneb

(1,107 posts)
88. Dispassionate analytical look at the data
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 08:42 AM
Oct 2024

This isn't about emotions, ultimately this is about data.

Poll data in some case may be biased or slanted or otherwise unreliable, abut I can assure you that both campaigns are analyzing that data in every way possible - effectively looking at the aggregate of all polls, and tossing out the outliers. It's a lot like predicting a hurricane's path, there are numerous models that generate the path, and the average of those paths are what we use to predict the landfall.

Exactly the same methods in using polling data. The data feeding into that model is not always perfect but to ignore those models is equivalent to not bothering to evacuate in the face of an impending hurricane.

This has nothing to do with "feelings".

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
90. The best data are actual behavior, not self-reported attitudes
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 12:19 PM
Oct 2024

Voter registration, early voting, for example. Those have been very promising for Democrats. So, it's irritating when people here say the sky is falling when some new poll shows Trump is winning.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
34. Please don't confuse "please don't" with "don't"
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 01:03 PM
Oct 2024

OP wrote "Please don't".

You seem to have read the request as a command. Please read it again.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
64. Then you misinterpreted it. "Please don't" is not a command
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 03:28 PM
Oct 2024

"Please don't pee in your friend's cereal" is not a command. You are free to do so and you might receive consequences.

Response to NoRethugFriends (Reply #3)

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
28. TY
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 12:42 PM
Oct 2024

I have asked that question 2 or 3 times on here with no response, so I gave up. I thought the C might be for crazy.

 

DeepWinter

(931 posts)
37. I've never understood
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 01:27 PM
Oct 2024

peoples adversion to just calling someone by their name.

Trump calls people all kinds of names but their actual name. Then I come to DU and see the exact same thing being done here. So weird.

ProfessorGAC

(76,706 posts)
51. Understanding How The Internet Works Is Vital
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 02:11 PM
Oct 2024

A search of all the web can turn up the number of times a person is mentioned in a given unit time.
Using the name adds to hits, which further strokes the ego of a guy who is very sensitive to that.
Why run the numbers up? His lackeys give him one value. Good or bad mentions are not discerned.
A number higher today than yesterday makes him happy.
DU is not in business to make that tool happy.
After 23 years here, another thing I believe DU is not here for are lectures about how people should express themselves.

Dear_Prudence

(1,172 posts)
52. Beetlejuice effect
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 02:14 PM
Oct 2024

If you use its real name, you invoke a disturbing mental image. If you use its real name 3x, well, gods help you!

NJCher

(43,165 posts)
56. Nameplay is fun
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 02:32 PM
Oct 2024

I always name my cats with something I can change around, for example:

Oliver

can be:

Ollie-Baba

When he comes in from the cold, he's "Olli-brrr."

and so on.

You would hardly expect anyone to make a an endearment for trump.

I also think it allows the writer to let off a little steam or hostility toward our mutual object of scorn.

hay rick

(9,605 posts)
57. I had a cat named Petey.
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 02:41 PM
Oct 2024

He was big and fluffy and got his name from having a bullseye pattern on his face like the dog in Little Rascals. He belonged to an irresponsible neighbor but we agreed to take him in. He was very sweet so I started calling him Peetey Sweety That eventually became Sweetie Pie. Sometimes that turned into Pie Guy. ..

NJCher

(43,165 posts)
63. Hugs to you for taking in Petey
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 03:01 PM
Oct 2024

I know that bullseye thing you're talking about from Little Rascals!

I was able to do that in a similar situation. The neighbor, a medical doctor, had gotten tired of having a dog and was neglecting her. I told another neighbor who then saw what was happening and asked if she could adopt the dog. Right off the bat she had rung up around $700 in vet bills from the lack of care (can you believe that a doctor would be so neglectful??!!). Several other neighbors chipped in, though. Happy ending. I loved that dog and was so happy to see her stay in the neighborhood in a happy home.

Yeah! Never-ending fun with names. Everybody joins the fun. Around here Oliver is also known as:

Orange Dude
Mr. Orange
Dahmer
SK (stands for serial killer of rodents)
Tuff Guy

I am sitting here laughing at all the fun we have with this.

Martin Eden

(15,629 posts)
86. I was going to ask that. First it was TFG, briefly TLG, TSF, now TSCF
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 07:52 AM
Oct 2024

I have my own acronym for TFG:

The
Fascist
Grifter

H2O Man

(79,052 posts)
11. Recommended.
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 11:59 AM
Oct 2024

I had hoped my saying that VP Harris will win by 9 million-plus votes would put an end to the concerns of the concerned.

H2O Man

(79,052 posts)
22. Right.
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 12:30 PM
Oct 2024

And while I don't talk to young voters, all I have are excited about Harris/ Walz ..... and strongly dislike the felon.

Maru Kitteh

(31,761 posts)
16. I've also started to call out the "why try?" and "nothing matters" type posts.
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 12:15 PM
Oct 2024

I have been as scared and frustrated as anyone here. Hell. I live in Montana. But defeatism is antithetical to progressivism. Defeatism aids Trumpism. I'm just not having it.

marble falls

(71,926 posts)
30. If voting meant nothing, why are they trying to steal it? If your vote meant nothing they'd be giving you more votes ...
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 12:44 PM
Oct 2024

... "Your vote means nothing is vote" is voter suppression.

Duncan Grant

(8,920 posts)
17. GOTV, don't "doomsday" the vote.
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 12:17 PM
Oct 2024

Post whatever you want, choose what works for you, — but I’m trashing anything that slows momentum. This is an incredible time, I intend to enjoy it.

SomedayKindaLove

(1,181 posts)
45. That's how I'm looking at it
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 01:59 PM
Oct 2024

It is an incredible time and it’s exciting thinking Harris is on the verge of doing something incredible. And if she loses, I’ll deal with the grief and consequences when the time comes.

BannonsLiver

(20,595 posts)
25. Also beware of posters who try to minimize Russia's casualties in Ukraine
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 12:37 PM
Oct 2024

While also fan boying over Eloon and his rocketry.

BannonsLiver

(20,595 posts)
77. The Putinite Eloon loving troll I'm talking about isn't here to engage in discussion
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 04:53 PM
Oct 2024

They are here to disrupt. So not worth the time.

LAS14

(15,506 posts)
80. Even if you happen to be right...
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 05:35 PM
Oct 2024

... about their motives, answering with facts would give other DUers ammunition when engaging with Trumpers. SOMETIMES engagement reaps benefits. I know that for a fact.

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
27. I mute the TV when they start with
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 12:41 PM
Oct 2024

The "Trump is gaining ground with X group," and "the race is tied" crap. I don't need to promote it on DU.

wnylib

(26,014 posts)
42. I don't know what the "C" stands for, but
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 01:42 PM
Oct 2024

TSF is "the sick f**k," taken from a comment long ago by President Biden that accidentally went public.

My guess is that people who add the "C" are using it to mean "criminal."

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,060 posts)
35. Unfortunately, I'm seeing more and more first time posters posting this nonsense,
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 01:05 PM
Oct 2024

and also those that signed up a few years ago but haven't posted for years until recently pushing this crap.
MIRt must be very busy and have done a great job.

SCantiGOP

(14,719 posts)
40. Since you are telling people how to post
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 01:36 PM
Oct 2024

I’ll try one too.
Please don’t use silly nicknames like “TSCF” which many of us, like me, have no idea of what they mean.
It will not swing the election to actually type the name of “Trump” when posting.

ForgedCrank

(3,096 posts)
43. Why?
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 01:42 PM
Oct 2024

This is a place to discuss things, right?
I still don't think Trump is going to win, but I find it unfortunate that it's unacceptable to discuss the real issues we may encounter.

LeftInTX

(34,295 posts)
49. And we live in utopia. Nothing will go wrong! Everything is hunky dory
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 02:07 PM
Oct 2024

I will watch Netflix and chill!!!

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
65. Good advice. We get enough crap elsewhere about djt vs. here on DU. I'd prefer not to see it here, of all places!
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 03:37 PM
Oct 2024

This is our safe spot. Let it be that way, pls.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,512 posts)
75. Wow
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 04:44 PM
Oct 2024

Surprisingly hostile replies to a simple request.

I'm with you. The gloom and doom is bullshit.

Wednesdays

(22,603 posts)
82. Yeah, it's like
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 07:18 PM
Oct 2024

"You're not the boss of me!"
and
"I can spread all the negativity I want! It's a free country!"

DiamondShark

(1,167 posts)
85. I searched for TSCF but don't see the posts you refer to.
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 03:03 AM
Oct 2024

The Straight Child Foundation is something I support.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php/?story_fbid=520730393677512&id=100072216665355

As well as The Sierra Club Foundation
https://www.sierraclub.org/press-releases/2024/09/sierra-club-announces-2024-national-award-winners

And if you are against Tertiary Students Christian Fellowship winning people to the Lord, I don't what to say.

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