Vance is the real Concern

[angrychair]

TSF's weakness is very well known and they needed a much younger and inexperienced VP candidate they could control to be in place once he was needed.
You tell me why, above all other possibilities, they picked a guy still in his first term as a senator, with no other political experience, to be his VP? Outside of the fact he is a Peter Thiel and Heritage Foundation acolyte and that Vance desperately seeks power and acceptance.
Vance is the plan. Not the orange anus.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. Yes. Vance is the Real Concern.

He's younger, more coherent and very much more dangerous than TSF.

This pair must not somehow win the election. Period.

[Magoo48]

8. Nobody likes Vance

[SergeStorms]

30. He has plenty of admirers.

They're all christian nationalists, fascists, and people dumber than a bag of hair, but they really like the guy. 😉

[mitch96]

36. Putin LOVES vance. He can control him..nt

[StarryNite]

11. He will willingly do whatever they tell him to do.

He would make a great puppet for them. They have been grooming him for this.

[EarthAbides]

2. Martyr

Once they steal the election, DonOLD will experience a well planned end of life experience... Vance will take over, make DonOLD a martyr and declare everything he is doing was DonOLD's dream. "DonOLD died for our country," Vance will say. The Magats will fall for it, no questions asked.

[-misanthroptimist]

5. And you better believe...

...that in that scenario, Democrats or "leftists" will be blamed for the martyrdom. Then it's open season on us.

[Magoo48]

12. Nobody is going to steal the election.

Negative, fear inducing horseshit.

[PortTack]

17. Nailed it...seeing a lot of low posters showing up again in these very hypothetical unlikely scenarios

[mitch96]

37. "seeing a lot of low posters showing up ". you just confirmed my suspicion...copy/paste RW talking points as

a "question"...I mean how obvious.
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[wnylib]

18. Sure. Just like no one tried to steal the 2020 election.

[Basso8vb]

26. They didn't steal it then, either.

[whopis01]

27. Or the 2000 election n/t

[wnylib]

40. Hmm.

[wnylib]

39. They sure as hell tried, didn't they? We did not let it happen and

we will not let them succeed at it this time, either. But make no mistake about it, they WILL try.

[Magoo48]

34. I didn't eat they might not try; I said nobody is going to steal the election.

[patphil]

3. I agree, Just Dumb Vance is a real problem.

Trump is in obvious steep decline right now. If he wins, we'll have Vance as president within no more than a year in my opinion.
Vance is every bit as bad as Trump, and is under the control of others who made him the VP choice.
When it comes to government, he's ignorant; simply not able to make the decisions and show the leadership that a president has to on a day to day basis.
He has zero experience on the international scene.
On the domestic scene, he's only a little bit better than zero.
He's going to have to act on the advice of the kind of people who created project 2025, and we know what those people are all about.
Vance doesn't have the solid base that Trump has, so he has to do as he is told or his handlers will dump him.
Essentially, he'll be a puppet of those fanatical, far-right anti-freedom types who want to establish a fascist state.
Vance couldn't resist them even if he wanted to...and he doesn't want to.

[2naSalit]

4. DementiaDon...

Is now reduced to a Trojan horse with jd packed inside with his copy of Pogrom 2025 for instructions.

[S/V Loner]

6. As far as the powers that be are concerned...

it has always been a J.D. Vance/Peter Thiel ticket.
The billionaires take over with their puppet.

[Rocknation]

10. DING DING DING -- S/V Loner, you're our grand prize winner!

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Vance wasn't chosen by Trump -- Vance was purchased from the Heritage Society by Trump:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219179041


Rocknation

[CaptainTruth]

14. Now you can add Musk to the billionaire cabal.

[wnylib]

22. Every dictatorship needs its own media monoply to control

public information.

With Musk, the fascists have Internet domination to go along with Fox TV and numerous AM hate radio stations.

[TBF]

7. 100% - nt

[birdographer]

9. Vance is as easily manipulated as Donny always was

He flip-flops more than a fish on land. He hates trump, he loves trump. I don't know if flattery will win him as easily as it does Donny, but something will--probably money. He can be led by the nose to do and say anything.

[Random Boomer]

21. Vance is not a puppet

He's an infiltrator. As an enthusiastic acolyte of Peter Thiel's misogynistic techbro fascism, Vance is playing the part of a Trump supporter, so he can take over when Trump starts to falter. Trump, however, is deteriorating faster than anticipated, which is inconvenient for them.

[Flatrat]

13. Vance is on record hating Trump

So all of a sudden he becomes Trump's VP candidate?

The plan is obvious to "install " Vance as President by invoking the 25th amendment after the election.
This is their best option as they know that cant pull off anther Jan 6 attack on the Capitol successfully.

The only flaw in their "coup" plan is Harris winning, and/or Trump not making it to January.

[Random Boomer]

24. Trump does not need to make it to January

If Trump won in the general election, Vance could legally succeed him at any point from then on. Purely theoretical situation since Harris will win, rendering the issue moot.

[Deminpenn]

15. Refer to him as President Vance

Trump and his minions will cut JD off at the knees because won't tolerate being shoved aside and disrespected.

[BadGimp]

16. I've never thought about things this "way".

[PortTack]

19. Hello...THEY, THE GQP ARE NOT GOING TO WIN!

[speak easy]

33. Maybe not this time,

but eventually they will. There is no going back to a normie Republican Party these days. One Dem win is not nearly enough The GOP needs five presidential terms in the wilderness. So yes, an oligarch takeover is a threat today, and into the future.

[PortTack]

35. Agree...I'll take the 4, or hopefully more years Harris will give us and work to prevent the heritage foundation

From seizing power. If I’ve learned anything, it’s not to get to far ahead of things, it changes on a dime.

[Cirsium]

20. Trump and Reagan and W

They are just front men. Carnival barkers. Performance artists. Shallow men, hollow men.

Remember when Secretary Clinton suggested that Trump was Vladimir Putin's puppet? That punch landed and did he ever howl - "no puppet, no puppet. You're the puppet!"

Reagan was Wall Street's puppet. W was the fossil fuel industry's puppet.

The well financed, carefully planned and meticulously organized agenda for authoritarian rule marches on, decade after decade. Trump is a side show, a freak, a caricature, thrown out there to deceive people and disguise what is really happening. He goes to the ever reliable white supremacy and misogynist playbook to mesmerize his followers and alarm and disorient his enemies. Meanwhile, the Musks and Theils of the world are consolidating their power over us and the shock troops are salivating at the prospects for violence and cruelty to come.

[no_hypocrisy]

23. Trump is the beard.

[jalan48]

25. As usual, it's not about the public face, it's about the owners behind the public face.

[Kablooie]

28. It's kind of like a B comedy movie.

A guy from Appalachia writes a book and shoots up to become vice president, and soon after becomes POTUS but knows next to nothing about what that entails. Oh what whacky adventures he will have.

In actuality he will become a happless puppet who will be manipulated to enact Progect 2025 in it's entirety.

[barbtries]

29. why?

i think it's because TCFSF wanted him. and why was that? because TCFSF was aware of his previous disparaging assessments of himself by vance, and takes delight in seeing him squirm, kiss ass, and essentially lose his soul (assuming he once had one) - for him.

i don't think the decision was power brokered. i think it was made by one person.

[Martin68]

31. Vance is only a concern if Trump wins the election.

[Initech]

32. It's because the fuckheads (powers) that be want a dictatorship whether we want it or not.

I'm of course referring to the Heritage Foundation, the Federalist Society, News Corporation and so on.

You know that if Trump were to reassure power, that his party will be quick to 25th Amendment him and install Vance as a permanent president with a revolving door government and unlimited power like Hungary or Turkey.

I just hope to god we don't experience anything like Myanmar.

[Dem4life1234]

38. I hate that he is so young

I don't like him and he is definitely of concern.

He couldn't even pick a sensible VP, nope just one who does his bidding.