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Pacifist Patriot

(25,212 posts)
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 08:36 AM Oct 2024

So my husband and I decided on a whim to "join" a Trump sign waving party in a ruby red county.

Central Florida
Friday, October 18
6:00 - 6:30 p.m.

For context, there is a highly traveled intersection near me with a CVS on one corner that provides ideal out-parcel space to conduct a sign waving event. MAGAts have used it over the last eight years, even when there isn't an election going on! I hadn't seen the Trump nutters out there for awhile, but they started showing up again routinely on Friday evenings the last few weeks. Demonstrably smaller crowds of late, but as enthusiastic. Every Friday around 4:00, my husband and I go visit my parents for a bit and have to pass this way to return home.

Unbeknownst to my long-suffering husband, I wore my Kam47a t-shirt for this very reason and tucked a Harris/Walz sign in the trunk of the car. As we approached the intersection I saw they were out yet again and asked if he minded dropping me off for half an hour so I could stand respectfully off to one end and hold up the Harris/Walz sign. He shocked me by not only agreeing, but staying with me holding up a "Florida is in Play" sign we happened to have in the trunk from an event we attended about six weeks ago. Folks, I cannot tell you how jaw dropping this was for me. He has 100% supported my political activity over the years, but never actively participated.

We had so much fun!

For one thing, we estimate that about 50% of the cars driving by reacted in our favor. Some of the folks driving by seemed ecstatic when they saw us. We noted a few things. Positive reactions heavily skewed younger, female (usually with a kid or two in the car), and/or people of color. But plenty of elderly couples expressed support too. The most obnoxious nay sayers were overwhelmingly elderly women. Or maybe that was their arthritis rendering them unable to bend their middle finger. Who knows, I digress.

We did keep our distance positioned after their final "Trump/Vance" yard sign, but sure enough several of their folks wandered down. We "interacted" with four of them. Here's how it went.

Two middle-aged men approached us. One was the nutter type who displayed obsession with immigrants and gender issues. We largely ignored him. Even when he snidely said something that indicated he knew who was on top when we had sex. Clearly his incel status makes him unable to imagine there are way more positions if you know what you're doing. Anyway, I digress again.

The other guy ended up engaging with me in a somewhat rational conversation. When ranting guy finally wandered off, I said, "Hey you mentioned you have daughters. How do you feel about their reproductive rights being taken away?" He said something about exceptions for rape and incest. I responded, "Oh no. In many states that is most definitely not the case. Take a look at what is happening in Texas. Women are dying" He asked me what my position was on post-birth abortion. I calmly responded. "That is infanticide, is illegal in every jurisdiction in the country, and no democrat on the planet would support making that legal." I asked if he knew that at six weeks, over 95% of women don't even know they are pregnant yet so we could be sentencing women with high risk pregnancies to death." His face turned white and he changed the subject to the media failing us. I said I absolutely agreed and left it at that. I thanked him for being an American who loves their country just like I do and for respecting my right to advocate for my candidate. He put out his hand and said, "I'm going to look up what you said about abortion." (in a way that indicated he was fact-checking me, but not snidely) I responded, "please do" and shook it.

Another guy came over who looked like he had been sent our way by ranting guy. Ended up having a conversation with him that was 100% devoid of any politics. You would have thought we were at a cocktail party, that kind of small talk. He was new to the area, recently retired from the Air Force, so my husband and I immediately engaged him with "where were you before, what drew you to the area, determined our kids had gone to the high school his kids were in now, etc." We told him it was a great area to raise kids, wished him well, he shook our hands, and quietly went back to his crowd.

We then had to ignore an unhinged anti-choice bitch who came over clutching a Vote No on 4 sign who shouted at us, called us losers, and made assumptions that we must have no children. We have three. We both knew better than to engage with her. That unspoken communication loser husbands and wives have after 30 years, you know.

After half an hour, the traffic was dying down, the wind was picking up, we were getting hungry, and frankly, my arms were tired from holding up a sign and waving at motorists. So these two fifty-something Enemies Within headed back to our car. Which by the way, is not a beaten up old pickup truck festooned with Harris is The Second Coming stickers and Walz has Ballz flags. As we were leaving, rational guy came over one more time, and said, "for democracy" and gave us each a fist bump. What the fuck is he doing with the nutters?

I don't know if he'll actually do the research much less learn anything important in the process, but I learned/confirmed a few important things last night:

1. Publicly advocating for democrats will not get you killed around here, despite my neighbors and family's concerns.
2. There were way more motorists excited to see us and expressing support than I anticipated.
3. Some Trump supporters are indeed so brainwashed and/or mentally ill that you really should not engage with them. Ever.
4. There are some folks in that bubble who might be able to be rescued. Even if you don't know the outcome, it is worth the effort. At the very least, I hope the two we engaged with now see that we are normal people and not an enemy.

Thanks for making it this far. I know I was long-winded.

Eighteen days!!!

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So my husband and I decided on a whim to "join" a Trump sign waving party in a ruby red county. (Original Post) Pacifist Patriot Oct 2024 OP
Love standing on corners with signs. You can cachukis Oct 2024 #1
Great OP malaise Oct 2024 #2
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 2024 #3
Good for you dwayneb Oct 2024 #4
With some bdamomma Oct 2024 #38
The Trump Buybull with the US Constitution OMGWTF Oct 2024 #46
We are going ramedy Oct 2024 #5
A small observation sdfernando Oct 2024 #20
Orlando is definitely blue. It will be blue in 2024 for sure. jimfields33 Oct 2024 #31
Orlando for sure sdfernando Oct 2024 #41
Thank you so much. Janeyre Oct 2024 #6
Welcome to DU! Delphinus Oct 2024 #19
Had a similar experience with Deminpenn Oct 2024 #7
Excellent Aviation Pro Oct 2024 #8
Florida mail in snowybirdie Oct 2024 #28
Oh my gosh, PP, I love badhair77 Oct 2024 #9
"Walz has Ballz flags" markodochartaigh Oct 2024 #10
Absolutely loved this post. Thank you so much. Reaffirms my belief we're gonna win this. Joinfortmill Oct 2024 #11
I love it that you engaged with people by saying... Trueblue Texan Oct 2024 #12
Great post. Thanks for taking the time to investigate and report your findings. C0RI0LANUS Oct 2024 #13
Loved your post...read it first thing this morning and I think Florida just may be more Blue than not 💙 Deuxcents Oct 2024 #14
This is so uplifting! yardwork Oct 2024 #15
What a great couple you are to go out and advocate for democracy! Thank you. Lonestarblue Oct 2024 #16
Really good report, not long-winded but great details. . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2024 #17
Excellent post! MacKasey Oct 2024 #18
Lol @the incel guy! ecstatic Oct 2024 #21
The incel guy's boss at work is to blame Captain Zero Oct 2024 #53
Great post, and you and your husband were very brave! DeeDeeNY Oct 2024 #22
Thank you for sharing! nt Phoenix61 Oct 2024 #23
Thank you for starting my morning in such a positive, loving way. Thank niyad Oct 2024 #24
That is awesome 👏🏼 benfranklin1776 Oct 2024 #25
I didn't include this but when incel asked if we wanted tampons in boys rooms,... Pacifist Patriot Oct 2024 #73
That is a spectacular answer! benfranklin1776 Oct 2024 #79
It's not so much mental agility as screaming it inside my head for months. Pacifist Patriot Oct 2024 #82
This post is a great find Mira Oct 2024 #26
Speaking of photos. I noticed more than a few people taking photos of us with their phones... Pacifist Patriot Oct 2024 #85
Agreed Mira. This post is a gem. nt Maru Kitteh Oct 2024 #88
Well done. (nt) Paladin Oct 2024 #27
This is so awesome!! Kamala & Tim W aren'trunning scared, they're running joyful onetexan Oct 2024 #29
Kudos to you and your husband. Enjoyed your well-written adventure. n/t allegorical oracle Oct 2024 #30
Thank you for that post! It's great to hear. CaptainTruth Oct 2024 #32
There's always some unhinged Karen nut Dem4life1234 Oct 2024 #33
No it will not and Kudos to you all! As one who has to engage with these "nutters" on a daily basis I can't agree more Cheezoholic Oct 2024 #34
Wonderful post bdamomma Oct 2024 #35
This is a wonderful, thoughtful post! I do not think it was too long at all, but then...it's me... PatrickforB Oct 2024 #36
Thank you for your post bdamomma Oct 2024 #40
Thanks! I'm not familiar with David Hawkins. Pacifist Patriot Oct 2024 #72
That was lovely. Collimator Oct 2024 #37
Beautiful! Stunning!! Magnificent!!! calimary Oct 2024 #87
Good for you two! Fantastic! Bumbles Oct 2024 #39
What a great post! Thank You lucca18 Oct 2024 #42
What stands out most to me in your post PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2024 #43
Thats great Figarosmom Oct 2024 #44
We need more La Coliniere Oct 2024 #45
Awesome post! KnR. n/t iluvtennis Oct 2024 #47
Kicking and recommending for all you did! Thank you both! dchill Oct 2024 #48
Well Done! n/t rambler_american Oct 2024 #49
That was brave. Thank you! nolabear Oct 2024 #50
Thank you for sharing your experience. liberalmuse Oct 2024 #51
I am an elderly woman that probably would have joined you. appleannie1 Oct 2024 #52
You guys are amazing! pandr32 Oct 2024 #54
Bravo! Thank you for fighting the good fight! camartinwv Oct 2024 #55
great post! thank you. nt orleans Oct 2024 #56
Thank you for this report KT2000 Oct 2024 #57
You gave me an idea! world wide wally Oct 2024 #58
Do it! Pacifist Patriot Oct 2024 #59
Orange Ave at Michigan Ave? rubbersole Oct 2024 #60
Brevard county Pacifist Patriot Oct 2024 #61
What a great story! ShazzieB Oct 2024 #62
Wowser, what a wonderful story! Thanks so much for sharing! Abolishinist Oct 2024 #63
I'm a former UU minister who now works at a ... Pacifist Patriot Oct 2024 #64
Thank you for telling your true lived experience! mahina Oct 2024 #65
Great work, you guys! I think sign waving for Harris/Walz and dems down ticket candidates Timeflyer Oct 2024 #66
Somebody said this somewhere "I was driving past a lot of people but, one guy really told the story.. chouchou Oct 2024 #67
Thank you for ypur bravery Demovictory9 Oct 2024 #68
Refreshing story. Thanks for sharing. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2024 #69
Glad you weren't attacked. sellitman Oct 2024 #70
WOW-- Thank you for gettng out there and for this story FightFight Oct 2024 #71
If you see a Trump/Vance sign, even your neighbor's usonian Oct 2024 #74
You rock! mcar Oct 2024 #75
Brevard Pacifist Patriot Oct 2024 #80
Same here mcar Oct 2024 #84
Thanks for a very informative post. virgdem Oct 2024 #76
Good job! Bring your smart phone and do the erase arch on the spot. mjvpi Oct 2024 #77
Good idea! Pacifist Patriot Oct 2024 #81
Every word worth reading. I love reading posts from intelligent people - people who care about America and the rest of dai13sy Oct 2024 #78
For the record, I dont care WHO'S "on top". Thats served me well! oldsoftie Oct 2024 #83
Thanks for sharing! Florida may indeed be in play! Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Oct 2024 #86

dwayneb

(1,107 posts)
4. Good for you
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 08:56 AM
Oct 2024

That takes a lot of courage.

If MAGA takes power in 2024, one day it is not at all inconceivable that we could lose the right of free assembly and dissent. Trump makes no bones about that, he is ready willing and able to implement the old "un-American activities" supporession tactic that has been used in the past.

bdamomma

(69,508 posts)
38. With some
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 10:49 AM
Oct 2024

hope and a lot of us voting to keep our democracy intact we will continue to express our free speech and our right to assemble. I think of all those in past generation who fought for us to keep this nation free. And this felon wanna be dictator and Putin asset will not enter the WH again.

When we fight we win.

ramedy

(186 posts)
5. We are going
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 08:57 AM
Oct 2024

to turn Florida BLUE! 💙 I have a Harris/Walz bumper sticker, and I have had several people pull alongside me at intersections and give me the high sign.

I live in a fairly red area and I have noticed a defínate lack of trump yard signs…homes that were festooned with trump parafernalia last election have nothing out this time around.

Don’t believe the polls. Big change is coming. We aren’t going back. The blue wave is real and it’s big and it will soon be here.

We. Are. Not. Going. Back.

sdfernando

(6,082 posts)
20. A small observation
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 09:54 AM
Oct 2024

So I am in Florida this week for work. Monday thru Saturday. I’m in Lake Mary, which for those of you who don’t know is right next to Sanford, where Trevon Martin was murdered by that freak! Anyway, during the little free time I’ve had I would take I4 into Orlando to commiserate with my fellow gay folks. Not much to see from the freeway. Well yesterday I got an unexpected afternoon free. So I decided again to drive into Orlando and see some sites. Well as soon as I got on I4 traffic all but stopped. Big accident closed the left 2 lanes. I pulled out WAZE to find alternate routes. It took me off the freeway and through a lot of residential neighborhoods. During this detour I didn’t see one, yard sign for tsf/couch fucker. NOT A SINGLE ONE...BUT I counted about a dozen Harris/Walz yard signs. Makes me feel Florida may just go blue this election. Not sure about the next or the local races.

sdfernando

(6,082 posts)
41. Orlando for sure
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 11:00 AM
Oct 2024

I was talking about the suburbs to the north east. Lots of big houses and fenced communities…seems very conservative in this area.

Janeyre

(22 posts)
6. Thank you so much.
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 08:58 AM
Oct 2024

Your foray had to take more than a little bravery to chance it. Love your reasonable approach. Bet you made somebody think. Again, thank you and hubby. My heart is swelling a little right now.

Deminpenn

(17,474 posts)
7. Had a similar experience with
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 08:59 AM
Oct 2024

my dentist's hygienist. I was respectful of her views and pointed her to Harris's website when she wanted to know more about Harris's policies. Next time I saw her, she'd done more research, but expressed a favorable view of Vance. I showed her the information about Vance saying women should stay in abusive marriages for the sake of their kids. She was shocked and, I suspect, immediately turned off on Vance.







snowybirdie

(6,676 posts)
28. Florida mail in
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 10:24 AM
Oct 2024

Ballots sent out late September. So I've already voted and its been counted! Psyched!

badhair77

(5,176 posts)
9. Oh my gosh, PP, I love
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 09:03 AM
Oct 2024

your account of your Fri evening public statement in support of Kam47 and all the things she’s fighting for. It makes me hopeful for our future and Americans and that all the nutters aren’t totally vile. They won’t leave their cause but they’re becoming more and more in the minority. Thank you and thanks to your husband for taking a stand and giving your time. I’m sure you lightened the evening for those who honked, too. Thanks for sharing.

markodochartaigh

(5,514 posts)
10. "Walz has Ballz flags"
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 09:06 AM
Oct 2024

I might buy one of these for my beat up old pickup.
And good on you for standing up for democracy.

Joinfortmill

(21,069 posts)
11. Absolutely loved this post. Thank you so much. Reaffirms my belief we're gonna win this.
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 09:21 AM
Oct 2024

Last edited Sat Oct 19, 2024, 06:03 PM - Edit history (1)

Trueblue Texan

(4,426 posts)
12. I love it that you engaged with people by saying...
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 09:23 AM
Oct 2024

"What do you think about...?" Very respectful way to begin a discussion.

Deuxcents

(26,745 posts)
14. Loved your post...read it first thing this morning and I think Florida just may be more Blue than not 💙
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 09:38 AM
Oct 2024

We’ll see in Roevember 🗳️

Captain Zero

(8,881 posts)
53. The incel guy's boss at work is to blame
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 12:02 PM
Oct 2024

He probably told incel guy to quit fucking up or he would get fired.

DeeDeeNY

(3,951 posts)
22. Great post, and you and your husband were very brave!
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 10:05 AM
Oct 2024

It's a little shocking that anyone can actually believe Trump's "post-birth abortion" lies, but lying to his Magat followers to keep them uninformed is key to Trump's strategy.

niyad

(132,139 posts)
24. Thank you for starting my morning in such a positive, loving way. Thank
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 10:09 AM
Oct 2024

you for your bravery. And thank you for your wonderfully-written report. "If ou know what you are doing" got quite a chuckle!

BRAVA and BRAVO!!!

benfranklin1776

(7,012 posts)
25. That is awesome 👏🏼
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 10:12 AM
Oct 2024

It took great courage and resolve to make such a principled exercise of your First Amendment rights! I applaud you and your husband for doing so! And those were great answers to the brainwashed and sane washed cultists. 👍🏼You didn’t let them get away with their typical bullshit! Nice job on both your parts!

Pacifist Patriot

(25,212 posts)
73. I didn't include this but when incel asked if we wanted tampons in boys rooms,...
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 07:36 PM
Oct 2024

My husband and I both said in unison, "yes!"

Rational guy looked surprised. I said, "when I was in high school, I played sports. When we were the away team, we were given the boys locker room. There were several times a girl on my team would have benefited from hygiene products being available." He seemed to have a bit of a light bulb look on his face.

I went on. Have you ever been to a sporting event or a concert where the men's room was available while the women's room was overwhelmed? He nodded with an understanding look on his face.

I said, "look, a bathroom is a bathroom. Do you really care one way or the other what supplies are available? Does it bother you to use the same bathroom at home that your wife and daughters do?" So why should anyone care what's in a school bathroom? If you need something there, use it. If you don't, leave it alone."

He did seem embarrassed by incel guy by the time we left. I'll consider that my one win. 😊

benfranklin1776

(7,012 posts)
79. That is a spectacular answer!
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 11:21 PM
Oct 2024

Kudos to your mental agility in delivering such a thoughtful and incisive reply that left him in a steaming pile of his own hateful gibberish, so yes 🙌🏼 that definitely counts as a major win in the cause of advancing the cause of human civilization ✊🏼💪🏼✊🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Pacifist Patriot

(25,212 posts)
82. It's not so much mental agility as screaming it inside my head for months.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 06:04 AM
Oct 2024


I also have to give huge props to DU. Reading discussions here with a bunch of different perspectives was a huge part of being able to craft answers.

Mira

(22,683 posts)
26. This post is a great find
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 10:12 AM
Oct 2024

I applaud your courage, your powers of observation, and your engagement with the "enemy"—aka fellow citizens.
Above all, thank you for an entertaining and insightful report.
Once, in a small NC town, I went to Kibbitz for a tea party rally. I went to take photos, and whenever God or Country was mentioned, I waved my arms and participated. I did not have your courage. But I ended up with great photos.

Pacifist Patriot

(25,212 posts)
85. Speaking of photos. I noticed more than a few people taking photos of us with their phones...
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 10:26 AM
Oct 2024

when they were northbound and stopped at the light. I confess I am extremely curious what they did with those photos (videos?).

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
29. This is so awesome!! Kamala & Tim W aren'trunning scared, they're running joyful
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 10:24 AM
Oct 2024

& so shld we.
Yesterday the hubby & i saw another house down the street w 2 signs - one that says "vote for rights & democracy, vote Harris Walz". The other sign was a mean pic of the Con that says "In your guts you know he's nuts" 😅
That made my day 🌊🇺🇸

Dem4life1234

(2,533 posts)
33. There's always some unhinged Karen nut
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 10:35 AM
Oct 2024

How did I know there would be some unhinged Karen nut shouting at you?

Cheezoholic

(3,706 posts)
34. No it will not and Kudos to you all! As one who has to engage with these "nutters" on a daily basis I can't agree more
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 10:37 AM
Oct 2024

We've even been able to convert some (is this what it feels like to be an evangelical? lol) of these folks. While I agree with you there are many that are a lost cause a lot of them are regular, sensible (I guess) people I can sit next to at my local diner and enjoy conversation over breakfast... as long as it doesn't wander into politics lol. Awesome write up too!

bdamomma

(69,508 posts)
35. Wonderful post
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 10:38 AM
Oct 2024

and you and your husband extended your hands and explained in a calm manner to "educate" those who may have lost their way. I think this is due to misinformation and disinformation being decimated over the years (gaslighting/propaganda), and the felon repeating a tactic that fascists use to wear people down to the point they can't even do critical thinking.

Your experience does give some hope, that we will win.

PatrickforB

(15,420 posts)
36. This is a wonderful, thoughtful post! I do not think it was too long at all, but then...it's me...
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 10:39 AM
Oct 2024

I appreciate point 4 at the end. In a sense what you did is put yourselves out there in the hope that you can uplift consciousness levels.

I don't want to sound esoteric here, but that really is the mission. I do not know if you have heard of him, but there was a fellow named David Hawkins. He was a psychiatrist who developed a logarithmic scale of human consciousness and published Power vs Force clear back in 1991.

Anyway, the MAGA propaganda bubble works to generate fear, desire and anger, all low on the scale. One of the best definitions of fascism I have heard is that it essentially promises people they will get what they want without specifying what that is, and without actually ever giving it to them.

Ultimately, I believe that this election is this MAGA movement hitting bottom and whoever can seems to be waking up. It is always ironic to me that they express such scorn for what they call 'wokeness.' I wonder sometimes if some of the saner people toward the edges of that bubble reflect at times that the opposite of being awake is being asleep. And, following that train of thought, who might be benefitting from this group being asleep?

No, I will spare you the rant about shareholder primacy, Wall Street and billionaires calling the shots and so on, but look at what Elon Musk is now doing with changes to privacy policies on X. And my wife this morning texted me a story about a county in Texas that has re-labeled a nonfiction book for kids titled, "Colonization and the Wampanoag Story" as fiction because they do not apparently like their kids (presumably white kids) to feel uncomfortable when reading about what their ancestors did to the indigenous peoples in this country.

People are getting tired of this. I'm watching Velshi now, and he just spoke to a bunch of AZ voters who are voting for Harris in spite of being conservative, just to save the nation.

In this election we may well witness our people saving the republic for another 50 years!

bdamomma

(69,508 posts)
40. Thank you for your post
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 10:59 AM
Oct 2024

I enjoyed reading your comments. I like to think there will be many of us during this election that will realize what is at stake, and we will rise up.

Power in numbers!!!!!!!!!!!

Collimator

(2,116 posts)
37. That was lovely.
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 10:40 AM
Oct 2024

Thank you so much. I admit that I am overwhelmed at this point in the election cycle and frankly exhausted by all the "rage baiting" that seems to be coming from either side of the political spectrum. Your post was a pleasing break from all that and I am grateful for the respite.

Light and Peace to you and yours. Here's a refreshing image of glacial blue to thank you for standing forth in ruby red country.







PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
43. What stands out most to me in your post
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 11:03 AM
Oct 2024

is this:" I asked if he knew that at six weeks, over 95% of women don't even know they are pregnant yet so we could be sentencing women with high risk pregnancies to death." His face turned white and he changed the subject to the media failing us. . . . He put out his hand and said, "I'm going to look up what you said about abortion."

Yeah, everyone. Six weeks in and most women don't know they're pregnant.

The other thing that enrages me is how some people seem to think women suddenly decide at 8 1/2 months that they really don't want the baby and abort.

I understand there's something out there that can give men at least some of the sensations of childbirth. They all last maybe ten minutes. We women? Many hours, sometimes actual days of labor.

Figarosmom

(11,773 posts)
44. Thats great
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 11:12 AM
Oct 2024

One more thing u
You may have accomplished. Today or tomorrow there may be Harris/Walz people there who were encouraged when they drove by and saw you two there.

La Coliniere

(1,914 posts)
45. We need more
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 11:13 AM
Oct 2024

true blue patriots like you and your husband. My hat’s off to you and thank you for your courage in taking a public stand!

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
50. That was brave. Thank you!
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 11:49 AM
Oct 2024

I’m glad you weren’t swarmed. At least there’s that. I’ve gotten sadly more paranoid these last months. I’ll happily stand my ground but I don’t think I’d have your courage to go into a crowd like that.

Seventeen days!

liberalmuse

(18,881 posts)
51. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 11:56 AM
Oct 2024

It was enlightening, positive and I enjoyed reading it. You and your husband are awesome!

appleannie1

(5,453 posts)
52. I am an elderly woman that probably would have joined you.
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 12:00 PM
Oct 2024

I have been a fan of Harris' for years and was ecstatic when Joe chose her for VP.

pandr32

(14,233 posts)
54. You guys are amazing!
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 12:05 PM
Oct 2024

Great job, and thanks for your insights.
I feel that, if not for the media, TSF wouldn't even have the thinning support he has now. He pays people to attend his events, packs his town halls with supporters rather than the unaffiliated, skews the polls, calls into Faux News, etc. Of course there are still cultists, but much of his 'support' is an illusion that has been carefully crafted.
Lots of people are swayed by peer groups, but if you give them truthful information they seem surprised, as they have not heard it before. One of the big things we Democrats have going for us is momentum and the easily swayed peer group types can see it. This helps us pick them off.
That, and the never-ending bullshit show that is losing it's luster along with the decaying frontman. He is now scary and stale. The faux "Trump' class, business acumen, and glamor facade has completely worn away.
If not for the media...sigh.
Hopefully, WHEN we take the election we can do something about the media that serves to amplify the interests of billionaires and not the People. This is not what a free press is.

world wide wally

(21,836 posts)
58. You gave me an idea!
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 02:09 PM
Oct 2024

I think I will find a group of Trumpers on a street corner and hold up a sign that says "Republicans for Kamala"

ShazzieB

(22,553 posts)
62. What a great story!
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 02:40 PM
Oct 2024

I can't tell you how much I enjoyed reading every word of this, so thanks very much for sharing!

I am contemplating doing some "experiments" of my own in the near future, and reading this has given me a lot of encouragement!

Abolishinist

(2,949 posts)
63. Wowser, what a wonderful story! Thanks so much for sharing!
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 02:49 PM
Oct 2024

And I must say, you REALLY know how to quickly judge these people and then proceed appropriately.

For various reasons I have little to no interaction with people like this, but I do believe what you said to be spot on.

There are some folks in that bubble who might be able to be rescued. Even if you don't know the outcome, it is worth the effort. At the very least, I hope the two we engaged with now see that we are normal people and not an enemy.

Pacifist Patriot

(25,212 posts)
64. I'm a former UU minister who now works at a ...
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 03:41 PM
Oct 2024

Speech-language pathology practice. I'm not an SLP, but I sometimes volunteer to be an unfamiliar listener with their adult patients. A lot of my career has involved being able to speak with anyone who crosses my path. It's become so second nature, I can't even remember what the trained techniques are called.

Timeflyer

(3,751 posts)
66. Great work, you guys! I think sign waving for Harris/Walz and dems down ticket candidates
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 04:31 PM
Oct 2024

is as or more effective than door to door canvassing in Florida. It inspires drivers who usually only see giant manufactured tRump signs on unnecessarily large pick-up trucks. But try to find a group to do it with--for safety as well as visibility. Good for you for staying civil to the opposition--that's my biggest challenge.

chouchou

(3,121 posts)
67. Somebody said this somewhere "I was driving past a lot of people but, one guy really told the story..
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 04:37 PM
Oct 2024

....his sign said "My arms are getting unbelievably tired" He was smiling.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,780 posts)
69. Refreshing story. Thanks for sharing.
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 05:29 PM
Oct 2024

The loony MAGATs get far too much attention in our press and on-line media, most of which are obsessed with sensationalism to increase viewers and Republicans learned to profit by creating the chaos. Not what I call an honorable thing for public servants or responsible members of the press to do.

Thanks for calling out at least one of the MAGAT's lies. You achieved quite a lot with just two people holding posters!

KY.......

mcar

(45,964 posts)
75. You rock!
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 08:02 PM
Oct 2024


I'm in Citrus County, also ruby red - where are you?

We have regular sign wavings in places around the county. We've also got 4 billboards supporting Harris/Walz, Amendment 4 and other Democratic issues. All private donors. It makes me so happy to see them!

Pacifist Patriot

(25,212 posts)
80. Brevard
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 06:01 AM
Oct 2024

Trump will win the county, but I'm optimistic we can get enough Harris votes to help the state wide results.

virgdem

(2,317 posts)
76. Thanks for a very informative post.
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 08:19 PM
Oct 2024

You and your hubby are 2 brave souls to engage with those lost souls. it appears that some trumpers are reachable. We may yet survive as a democracy. Hope springs eternal.

mjvpi

(1,931 posts)
77. Good job! Bring your smart phone and do the erase arch on the spot.
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 09:44 PM
Oct 2024

When I meet someone who is open in conversation and who says that they will do research, I use Google and help them. I don’t hold back in pointing out when my facts miraculously show up at the top of the search. We are all untitled to our own opinions, not our own facts.

dai13sy

(570 posts)
78. Every word worth reading. I love reading posts from intelligent people - people who care about America and the rest of
Sat Oct 19, 2024, 09:56 PM
Oct 2024

us. We're getting through this in one piece. Just wait and see

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
83. For the record, I dont care WHO'S "on top". Thats served me well!
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 08:24 AM
Oct 2024

Guy probably isnt an "Incel" but also probably doesnt know how to please a woman.

I'm surprised that elderly women were the rudest passerby!! I wouldve thought it would be the 30-ish white guys

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