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avebury

(11,196 posts)
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 03:29 PM Oct 2024

Who the heck would ever want to agree to be an organ donor after this?

The hospital had to admit one hour into the organ donation surgery that the patient was actually alive. I wonder if he lost any organs before they finally admitted the reality. And this was after he also woke up during a heart catherization performed on him that morning.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/kentucky-ag-investigating-after-man-wakes-up-right-before-organ-donation-procedure/ar-AA1sBm5a?ocid=BingNewsSerp

The medical story of Anthony Thomas "TJ" Hoover II began nearly three years ago when his sister was told he was "code blue," meaning he was experiencing cardiac arrest, while in Baptist Health Richmond’s emergency room, WKYT reported. Hoover was deemed brain-dead. When his family decided to take him off life support, medical staff told them he was a registered organ donor.
Over the next couple of days, Hoover's organs were tested to see what was viable.

"We had his honor walk Friday afternoon," Hoover's sister, Donna Rhorer, recounted. "During his honor walk, his eyes started opening up. He was tracking. His eyes were tracking us around. We were told it was just reflexes, just a normal thing. Who are we to question the medical system?"

"He said he wasn’t ready. He woke up. But we also hadn’t been told during his heart catheterization that morning, he woke up then. If we had known that, then clearly we would have known he wasn’t brain-dead," Rhorer told the Lexington TV station. "He made several attempts to say, ‘Hey, I’m here.’ But it was kind of ignored. They finally stopped the procedure because he was showing too many signs of life."

Following the alleged organ retrieval gone wrong in 2021, Rhorer was told to take her brother home to care for him and that he would not live long. He is still alive today.

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petronius

(26,696 posts)
1. If he wasn't an organ donor, he might have woken up during his cremation instead
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 03:35 PM
Oct 2024


(Being a bit facetious, but this is clearly a huge eff-up that needs correction.)

avebury

(11,196 posts)
3. The family should have sued the hospital and doctors
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 03:38 PM
Oct 2024

for gross negligence. I would have loved to be on that jury.

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
11. This sounds more than just gross negligence to me.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 03:48 PM
Oct 2024

The guy was showing obvious signs of life, reacting in pain to tests the hospital was doing to test his organs for viability.
Why were the signs of life ignored?

malaise

(296,020 posts)
16. Maybe his organs were needed for a wealthy
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 06:34 PM
Oct 2024

Recipient.
They would still be paying me.

avebury

(11,196 posts)
7. What is horrifying is the fact that the kid kept waking up
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 03:43 PM
Oct 2024

and the hospital totally denied that he was still alive until apparently one doctor finally put a halt to the surgery. One of the articles I read indicated that, at some point, the kid actually said a few words.

Stuff like that makes people wonder if a doctor/hospital will be in such a rush to harvest organs that they won't actually wait for a patient to die first. If you can' t trust the system to act correctly then they will start to have problems finding willing organ donors.

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
10. Yes, this guy was certainly not dead, because he was reacting to his environment, when
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 03:47 PM
Oct 2024

the hospital tested his organs for viability. Yet the hospital ignored signs of life and wanted to proceed with organ removal. The doctor who was supposed to remove his organs refused to do it.

 

Mosby

(19,491 posts)
18. He was never dead, they claimed he was brain dead.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 06:39 PM
Oct 2024

They wanted the body alive to better harvest the organs they wanted.

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
5. Jesus...these people are so desperate for these organs that they will willingly overlook the donors is still alive
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 03:41 PM
Oct 2024

conditions?

I think that this hospital or whomever needs to be examined a little closer, I think. I wonder if others were in this same condition, but the hospital still went ahead and grabbed the donated organs. This would be murder.

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
8. I dunno.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 03:44 PM
Oct 2024

Sure seems like this could be a criminal case. This guy was very obviously not dead, but hospital seemed determined to go through with organ removal. The surgeon refused to do it, because the guy was very obviously not dead.

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
6. They didn't take any organs out.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 03:43 PM
Oct 2024

Surgeon refused to do it because the patient was very obviously not dead.

avebury

(11,196 posts)
9. He was the only one that acted correctly. Everybody up until that point
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 03:45 PM
Oct 2024

failed the patient and his family.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
12. A few years ago I read an entire book on organ donation.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 03:49 PM
Oct 2024

Stories like this came up a lot.

I am no longer an organ donor. Although why my already 77+ years old organs would be of any use to anyone escapes me.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
15. I am and shall remain an organ donor, as I have been since my early 20s. Now that I'm in my late 70s...
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 06:29 PM
Oct 2024

…chances are diminishing that they will find anything useful, but you never know. If I’m dead, I certainly won't have a use for my body.

I am sorry this awful thing happened — may it never happen again, to anyone.

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