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applegrove

(132,204 posts)
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 09:52 PM Oct 2024

TRUMP'S PLAN WOULD CUT SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS BY 33%

TRUMP’S PLAN WOULD CUT SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS BY 33%

JASON EASLEY DONALD TRUMP, FEATURED NEWS MON, OCT 21ST, 2024

https://www.politicususa.com/2024/10/21/trumps-plan-would-cut-social-security-benefits-by-33.html

"SNIP............

A new study by the non-partisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget found that Donald Trump’s plans for Social Security would drive the program toward insolvency and cut benefits by 33%.

According to the CRFB:

In fact, we find President Trump’s campaign proposals would dramatically worsen Social Security’s finances.

President Trump’s proposals to eliminate taxation of Social Security benefits, end taxes on tips and overtime, impose tariffs, and expand deportations would all widen Social Security’s cash deficits. Under our central estimate, we find that President Trump’s agenda would:

Increase Social Security’s ten-year cash shortfall by $2.3 trillion through FY 2035.
Advance insolvency by three years, from FY 2034 to FY 2031 – hastening the next President’s insolvency timeline by one-third.
Lead to a 33 percent across-the-board benefit cut in 2035, up from the 23 percent CBO projects under current law.
Increase Social Security’s annual shortfall by roughly 50 percent in FY 2035, from 3.6 to 4 percent of payroll.
Require the equivalent of reducing current law benefits by about one-third or increasing revenue by about one-half to restore 75-year solvency.


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TRUMP'S PLAN WOULD CUT SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS BY 33% (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2024 OP
We must sacrifice anything if only fake billionaires Johonny Oct 2024 #1
In 6 years. 4 years earlier than expected CousinIT Oct 2024 #2
"...want to raise retirement age to 70." markodochartaigh Oct 2024 #14
The old saying: CousinIT Oct 2024 #18
VP Harris needs to come out strong in opposition to this bullshit MichMan Oct 2024 #3
Absolutely. n/t CousinIT Oct 2024 #19
Hysterical hand wringing hyperbole ..... anciano Oct 2024 #4
President Trump's proposals to eliminate taxation of Social Security benefits, end taxes on tips and overtime, applegrove Oct 2024 #5
All these are backdoor ways to defund Social Security. They have a double-pronged plan... CousinIT Oct 2024 #20
It's a sacrifice he is willing to make. NameAlreadyTaken Oct 2024 #6
JFC. Social Security CAN'T go "insolvent." valleyrogue Oct 2024 #7
I don't believe Trump actually HAS a plan for Social Security B.See Oct 2024 #8
Destroying social security is a Republican wet dream-are you suckering for Trumps proposal? Stargazer99 Oct 2024 #9
Please explain more. applegrove Oct 2024 #10
VP Harris has also said she favors not taxing tips. MichMan Oct 2024 #12
I'm in favor of this as well DeepWinter Oct 2024 #15
Spread this far and wide dalton99a Oct 2024 #11
I don't understand why newdayneeded Oct 2024 #13
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Oct 2024 #16
No they won't, they'll steal the whole thing. nt Hotler Oct 2024 #17
NO catrose Oct 2024 #21
What a piece of shit! The GOP are nothing more than robber barrens. ffr Oct 2024 #22

Johonny

(26,173 posts)
1. We must sacrifice anything if only fake billionaires
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 09:55 PM
Oct 2024

Get to freeload off our work even easier.

CousinIT

(12,533 posts)
2. In 6 years. 4 years earlier than expected
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 10:04 PM
Oct 2024

Last edited Mon Oct 21, 2024, 10:50 PM - Edit history (1)

And it will not be "insolvent" as long as worker/employer taxes are still paid in, but everyone on it will have benefits cut about 23%

That will happen anyway unless congress does something to prevent it, but Trump's idiot economic plans will speed it up 3-4 years AND increase the cuts to 30-33%.

Expect Republicans to resist doing anything to stop the cuts and they want to raise retirement age to 70. AND cut, privatize & means test it so they can cut it more if not just abolish it. THAT will also destroy our economy. But Republicans are fucking STUPID on the economy.

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
14. "...want to raise retirement age to 70."
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 10:55 AM
Oct 2024

It is so ironic that many in the professions who could comfortably work until 70, doctors, attorneys, bankers, etc. retire in their 50's and live very well; while most in difficult jobs who have difficulty physically working in their 50's have to either work until they die, or "retire" on a pittance on which they struggle for the bare necessities.

CousinIT

(12,533 posts)
18. The old saying:
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 12:00 PM
Oct 2024

Those who want to raise the retirement age to 70 are the same ones who won't hire anyone over 50. . . something like that.

It's true. It's the millionaire/billionaire way to punish those who aren't as wealthy, so they die off. Survival of the fittest, they'd say.

MichMan

(17,149 posts)
3. VP Harris needs to come out strong in opposition to this bullshit
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 10:04 PM
Oct 2024
President Trump’s proposals to eliminate taxation of Social Security benefits, end taxes on tips and overtime, impose tariffs, and expand deportations would all widen Social Security’s cash deficits

anciano

(2,256 posts)
4. Hysterical hand wringing hyperbole .....
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 10:17 PM
Oct 2024

it's not going to happen. In the first place, his election is very unlikely, and secondly, the sheer volume of the senior vote is enough of a deterrent for such a plan to never make it through Congress.

applegrove

(132,204 posts)
5. President Trump's proposals to eliminate taxation of Social Security benefits, end taxes on tips and overtime,
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 10:39 PM
Oct 2024

"SNIP........

President Trump’s proposals to eliminate taxation of Social Security benefits, end taxes on tips and overtime, impose tariffs, and expand deportations would all widen Social Security’s cash deficits.

..........SNIP"

Not to mention firefighters, police and the military not paying any taxes like Trump floated.



CousinIT

(12,533 posts)
20. All these are backdoor ways to defund Social Security. They have a double-pronged plan...
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 12:14 PM
Oct 2024

...

1. Defund Social Security - starve it of funds with tax cuts, then scream it's going "bankrupt" to set the stage for its elimination or privatization.
2. Straight-out cuts, like raising the retirement age, reducing COLAs, and direct cuts to benefits or who can receive them, i.e., making them means-tested and then calling them "welfare" again to set the stage for elimination or privatization.

If they can't get away with #2, they'll do it via #1 and other ways they can find.

Like the ACA, they've been after Social Security & Medicare since their inception -- because the billionaires whom the GOP exclusively represents (and who own them and the highest court in the land via hundreds of dark money groups funneling money to the GOP and the courts thanks to Citizens United) - don't want to pay the taxes on those programs. That's what's driving this. The goddamned billionaires like Musk, Trump and others. Greedy assholes who wish to have the IRS defunded and shut down so they pay no tax (and many of them don't anyway - same with big corporations like Bank of America, Amazon, and others).

Billionaires and corporate greed are largely ignored in the body politic and surrounding discussions—especially by the media, which billionaires and big corporations primarily own—so they're not going to talk about their dirty shenanigans in public. They point at migrants, poor people, seniors, healthcare, and the sickest among us, brown people, etc., as the issue. THEY ARE NOT THE ISSUE. Billionaires and corporate greed are the issues. And because everything and everybody is owned and controlled by the same, it never gets discussed.

valleyrogue

(2,714 posts)
7. JFC. Social Security CAN'T go "insolvent."
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 11:00 PM
Oct 2024

That is the biggest g.d. lie the media keep repeating. No federal government program can go "broke." The reason has to do with the simple fact the government can print its own money. The federal government cannot "go broke." Besides, any supposed "shortfall" can be paid out of the general fund, just as SSI is funded.

The right-wing attacks on Social Security and Medicare have nothing to do with "insolvency." It is motivated by not wanting to pay the FICA and Medicare taxes on the part of corporations.

In other words, it is all about greed.

B.See

(8,490 posts)
8. I don't believe Trump actually HAS a plan for Social Security
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 11:07 PM
Oct 2024

no more than he has "concepts of a plan" for Healthcare. It's just shit he's started saying sometime around the spring of this year after word got out the his MAGA party was out to GUT both Social Security and Medicare.

Just like his FLIP FLOP on abortion being "up to the states" after his lying ass bragged about overturning Roe v Wade.

He's a CON-MAN. Only thing one CAN believe is, 1) he's in it for himself and his filthy rich cronies, 2) he's out for revenge 3) he's an existential threat to democracy, here and throughout the WORLD.

Stargazer99

(3,517 posts)
9. Destroying social security is a Republican wet dream-are you suckering for Trumps proposal?
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 11:09 PM
Oct 2024

The bait is not taxing tips, etc which would trap those who are not thinking critically

 

DeepWinter

(931 posts)
15. I'm in favor of this as well
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 11:08 AM
Oct 2024

If they can loophole minimum wage on Servers to pay them less per hour, then let's cut taxes on wages. Maybe that'll push a real working wage per hour for Servers.

 

newdayneeded

(2,493 posts)
13. I don't understand why
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 11:54 PM
Oct 2024

with all the times he said clearly that "cuts need to looked at" why is there a 30 second commercial running 20 times a day with just a repeating video loop of him on stage saying this.

ffr

(23,398 posts)
22. What a piece of shit! The GOP are nothing more than robber barrens.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 08:22 PM
Oct 2024

Leave people's earned paid into safety net alone!

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