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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs Elon Musk running for president ?
Hes got more plans for the country than TSF and is putting them out there. Hes talking about his DOGE agency..Department of Government Efficiency, a generous retirement package for government employees who will be replaced with loyalists. Hes talking about cuts to government programs and reducing wasteful spending and implementing a new Secretary of Cost Cutting. Hes got lots of ideas.
Is this a new campaign tactic for a sluggish campaign?
onetexan
(13,913 posts)Darwins_Retriever
(949 posts)The president must be a natural born citizen of the US. He is South African by birth.
Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
(1,117 posts)in a very influential position within the US Government. Its as close to the Presidency a foreign born American citizen can get. Putin would have influence as well.
Politics in the U.S. is in desperate need of some major reforms to ensure our country can insulate itself from attacks to its core. Hopefully, the Harris/Walz Administration will be up to the task.
PJMcK
(25,048 posts)Given how divided the country is, I wouldn't count on it. After all, in 250 years, it's been amended only 27 times and one of those was to undo a previous amendment. The last attempt was the Equal Rights Amendment which couldn't be ratified by enough states thanks to Republican misogyny and racism.
Musk is not a natural born American and is therefore disqualified from running for president.
LearnedHand
(5,500 posts)It just requires Congress to finish the process.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Five states have voted to rescind their ratifications. There would be contentious litigation over this.
Deadlines have passed. There would be contentious litigation over this.
LearnedHand
(5,500 posts)My mistake
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)PJMcK
(25,048 posts)Let's see if the next Congress, hopefully with Speaker Jefferies, will get it done.
My point was that the ERA was the last Constitutional Amendment to even get a chance for ratification. It was passed in 1972! That's 52 years ago and it still hasn't been enacted.
At that rate, Elon Musk would be about 105 years old by the time the necessary amendment would be enacted.
Musk must never be near the levers of power of the U.S. government. He is far more dangerous than Trump even though he's nearly as much of a fraud.
Hopefully, President Harris will be able to continue President Biden's efforts to right our ship of state.
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)Several states rescinded their approval. Even if we ignore that or consider them invalid for sake of argument*, the required number of states wasn't met until well after the deadline, which had been previously extended. Congress would have to lift the deadline, and there's no precedent or existing provision to do so. A resolution was submitted in 2019 to change it, but it stalled in the Senate.**
The Brennan Center has a good article about the ERA, its history, the issues surrounding it, and the legal challenges:
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/equal-rights-amendment-explained
* In 1980, a federal district court in Idaho ruled that the states rescission of the ERA was valid.
** https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-joint-resolution/6
rsdsharp
(12,002 posts)It failed to be ratified. The attempt to ratify it was revived in 1982, and it was eventually ratified 10 years later. So, depending on how you look at it, the 27th Amendment could be more recent than the proposed ERA. Or it could have been ratified more than 200 years after Congress proposed it.
LearnedHand
(5,500 posts)He's a foreign born, naturalized citizen. Completely ineligible for the presidency.
WarGamer
(18,613 posts)Even if he were eligible, I'm not sure he'd be successful.
He CAN be Governor of Texas, though.
dalton99a
(94,122 posts)lame54
(39,771 posts)Deuxcents
(26,917 posts)Johonny
(26,178 posts)He wants to be America's CEO. He has no ability to do politics. Which Trump also showed zero ability for. Trump can rubber stamp something from Congress or tear up treaties, but he did just about nothing legislative wise. Musk is more of the same. He has no experience other than being a haphazard dictator to his employees.
OLDMDDEM
(3,186 posts)CrispyQ
(40,969 posts)He also looks weird. There are not many complimentary photos of him.
It's amazing how Trump attracts the best people, isn't it?
gab13by13
(32,322 posts)TSF isn't the only person to talk with Putin on the phone. After Leon had his conversation he posted Putin's Ukraine peace plan on X.
Attilatheblond
(8,878 posts)He is using Trump as the ring master to get attention for the circus that is Ego driven Elon.
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,869 posts)Musk is trying to buy control of the White House. If TFG is re-elected, Musk will be calling the shots
Deuxcents
(26,917 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(179,869 posts)MartyTheGreek
(732 posts)Is this the tell? Musk set these businesses entities up earlier this month. Is this where Corp.Gov will keep the new Treasury? He did yell a couple weeks ago that the US was going bankrupt. Rocket man is basking in the Tecbro sea of adoration after his return rocket grab!
What does he really want with DJT? More Space contracts? A piece of that UAP tech if some of it is ours?
If USA Inc., is anything like his Twitter takeover and remodel, were in for a ride!
haele
(15,402 posts)Last edited Tue Oct 22, 2024, 05:19 PM - Edit history (1)
Department of Treasury - Move all currency to Bitcoin, specifically his Dogecoin and maybe a few others.
Departments of Health and Human Services, Social Security and the VA - Require the population using HHS, SS, or VA to "plug" into a Neurolink based system to monitor their physical and mental status; "balance" their access to benefits and care according to a criteria that "saves taxpayer money" while delivering the care the ruling class deems to be the minimum for quality of life.
Department of Defense and Justice, Homeland Security - instead of HUMINT and the large amount of lower level field workforce needed to do the actual work, use AI and autonomous robot or android style "human alternatives", and only hire people to service or "manage" this tech that doesn't get tired or emotionally stressed, nor does it need to get paid, take care of family, or any sort of fulfillment outside of maintenance or doing it's job as programmed.
Heck, all the departments can get rid of most of their employees. AI and automation can do everything normal people can do and not complain, get sick, get old, or screw up. And systems can be replaced or tossed when they get damaged or obsolete.
It'll be a highly efficient Tech Bro paradise. Sure, the co-ruling Christian Nationalist/Opus Dei elites might be problematic to people like Ackman, Musk and Theil, but money will eventually win them over, right?
Ya, they read the science fiction books, but through an Ayn Rand lens, so they got a message the writers didn't intend - they all think they're smarter than the villain/antagonists in those books.
Haele
MartyTheGreek
(732 posts)
meets HAL 9000.
The campaign needs to tell the public how this billionaire texhnoclass is harming democracy. How theyre wasting billions thrown away that could have funded a public good. Must spent $75 million on Trump thus far! $45 Billion on the Twitter takeover now only valued at $9 Bil and all he did was gave space for a MAGA bullhorn and echo chamber pumping out propaganda!
Blue Full Moon
(3,485 posts)Election interfering
polichick
(37,626 posts)like him. Hell be put in place by Trump, but after that Trump will be irrelevant.
Deuxcents
(26,917 posts)cyclonefence
(5,151 posts)I think he envisions JDV and himself running the show, either after they've booted Trump, or even while Trump is in office (should the unthinkable happen). Trump loves parts of being president, like making money through foreign contacts and being a big shot, but I think Vance and Musk could easily get him to let them do the actual nuts-and-bolts running of the country. IOW a nightmare.
Wiz Imp
(9,996 posts)The father of Earth's Richest Manwho also happens to be a virulently racist South African going around intimating he'll be co-POTUS under Trumphas revealed his son wants America to be more like apartheid South Africa. Click link above to watch video