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senseandsensibility

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I've wondered the same thing...... MyOwnPeace Oct 2024 #1
Threatened? 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 2024 #2
So terrible that we have to think like this now senseandsensibility Oct 2024 #4
Fear of family repercussions. Funtatlaguy Oct 2024 #5
Wasn't a problem for him before. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #7
From today: TwilightZone Oct 2024 #11
This isn't the first time the Hitler comments have been reported. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #3
Because ramedy Oct 2024 #6
Nope. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #14
I haven't give up hope. epreic01 Oct 2024 #8
From today: TwilightZone Oct 2024 #12
He is a coward RJ_MacReady Oct 2024 #9
Nope. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #13
Like this? TwilightZone Oct 2024 #10

MyOwnPeace

(17,609 posts)
1. I've wondered the same thing......
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 06:07 PM
Oct 2024

As well as all of those that did the work in the Mueller Report - including Mueller himself!

50 Shades Of Blue

(11,503 posts)
2. Threatened?
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 06:07 PM
Oct 2024

senseandsensibility

(25,515 posts)
4. So terrible that we have to think like this now
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 06:13 PM
Oct 2024

I certainly hope that's not it.

Funtatlaguy

(11,892 posts)
5. Fear of family repercussions.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 06:13 PM
Oct 2024

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
7. Wasn't a problem for him before.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 06:37 PM
Oct 2024
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/02/politics/john-kelly-donald-trump-us-service-members-veterans/index.html

I guess that CNN interview when he clearly made his opinions known and provided confirmation of several of Trump's greatest hits doesn't count as speaking out.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
11. From today:
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 08:40 PM
Oct 2024

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
3. This isn't the first time the Hitler comments have been reported.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 06:12 PM
Oct 2024

August 2022:

Former President Donald Trump once complained to his White House chief of staff that his generals weren't "totally loyal" like Adolf Hitler’s during World War II, according to a book excerpt published Monday.
“You f---ing generals, why can’t you be like the German generals?” Trump asked then-White House chief of staff John Kelly, according to an excerpt of “The Divider: Trump in the White House, 2017-2021,” co-written by New Yorker staff writer Susan Glasser and New York Times correspondent Peter Baker.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-complained-generals-werent-hitlers-book-says-rcna42114

As for Kelly talking about disqualifying actions, I guess you're looking for him to comment now, but he's been quite clear on the matter, including on TV.

October 2023:

"“What can I add that has not already been said?” Kelly said, when asked if he wanted to weigh in on his former boss in light of recent comments made by other former Trump officials. “A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France."

“A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women,” Kelly continued. “A person that has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what America is all about. A person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peacetime and war should lose his life for treason – in expectation that someone will take action. A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.

“There is nothing more that can be said,” Kelly concluded. “God help us.”


https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/02/politics/john-kelly-donald-trump-us-service-members-veterans/index.html

Earlier comments:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/07/politics/john-kelly-trump-25th-amendment-capitol-riot-cnntv/index.html

https://www.businessinsider.com/john-kelly-if-trump-was-a-real-man-he-wouldve-gone-to-the-capitol-on-january-6-book-2021-11

ramedy

(186 posts)
6. Because
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 06:14 PM
Oct 2024

He is a coward.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
14. Nope.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 08:43 PM
Oct 2024
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219595628

He was also on CNN last October confirming much of what has been said about Trump and the military, including the "suckers and losers" comment. Seems that people have forgotten that.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/02/politics/john-kelly-donald-trump-us-service-members-veterans/index.html

epreic01

(262 posts)
8. I haven't give up hope.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 07:58 PM
Oct 2024

Liz Cheney acted like she knew or believed that there would be more to come. I disagree with John Kelly’s probably politics, but I don’t think he’s a coward and I don’t think he’s a sell out.
I could see him being misguided in thinking putting it into print is enough and he is not an attention seeker. So he may be think going on TV cheapens his warning. If that’s what he’s thinking he’s wrong. People don’t read. They need a visual.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
12. From today:
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 08:42 PM
Oct 2024
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219595628

He was also on CNN last October confirming much of what has been said about Trump and the military, including the "suckers and losers" comment. Seems that people have forgotten that.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/02/politics/john-kelly-donald-trump-us-service-members-veterans/index.html
 

RJ_MacReady

(448 posts)
9. He is a coward
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 08:01 PM
Oct 2024

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
13. Nope.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 08:43 PM
Oct 2024
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219595628

He was also on CNN last October confirming much of what has been said about Trump and the military, including the "suckers and losers" comment. Seems that people have forgotten that.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/02/politics/john-kelly-donald-trump-us-service-members-veterans/index.html

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
10. Like this?
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 08:25 PM
Oct 2024
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219595628

This is just the latest. He's spoken out before on Trump, but apparently, no one was paying attention, even though it was front-page news.

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