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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,725 posts)
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 01:29 PM Oct 2024

The owner of the Los Angeles Times has blocked the paper from endorsing a candidate for president this yea

The billionaire owner of the Los Angeles Times has reportedly blocked its editorial board from endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris for president.

Members of the editorial board were all set to endorse Harris for the most powerful position in America, but earlier this month, executive editor Terry Tang told staff members the paper would not be endorsing a candidate for president, two people familiar with the conversations told Semafor.

She reportedly said the decision came straight from the paper's owner, Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong, a doctor who made his fortune in the healthcare industry.

The decision marks a major departure for Harris' home state newspaper, which has exclusively endorsed Democratic presidential candidates since then-Senator Barack Obama ran in 2008.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/billionaire-owner-blocks-the-la-times-from-endorsing-kamala-harris/ar-AA1sJSHO

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The owner of the Los Angeles Times has blocked the paper from endorsing a candidate for president this yea (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2024 OP
Kicking so more eyes can see this. BComplex Oct 2024 #1
L.A. End Times BattleRow Oct 2024 #31
Oy, so many freaking cowards in the media... and it is self-defeating. Bastards. LymphocyteLover Oct 2024 #43
LOL BComplex Oct 2024 #52
The Editorial Department should issue a full-sized paper MineralMan Oct 2024 #2
Yep. In this case a "mulligan" says more than if they just endorsed. n/t forgotmylogin Oct 2024 #25
Kirk, you will find a way Tetrachloride Oct 2024 #3
Mask off time. If you read the LAT, now you know what kind of editorial RockRaven Oct 2024 #4
this is fucked up! barbtries Oct 2024 #5
Time to bring back the Telecommunications Act. rubbersole Oct 2024 #18
Huh? Sarcasm? onenote Oct 2024 #24
It used to be ownership of media outlets was restricted. rubbersole Oct 2024 #30
YES DENVERPOPS Oct 2024 #33
Yes DENVERPOPS Oct 2024 #34
Ownership of newspapers like the LA Times has never been regulated. onenote Oct 2024 #42
You are correct. rubbersole Oct 2024 #62
While I don't know about news "papers" soandso Oct 2024 #44
Id do it anyway, only NOW its going on the front page because its not JUST editorial,... Volaris Oct 2024 #6
Freedom of the Press Quiet Em Oct 2024 #7
The "freedom of the press" belongs to he who owns the press. marybourg Oct 2024 #10
I didn't know that. Quiet Em Oct 2024 #12
As he's falling out the window Johonny Oct 2024 #8
"I'm President Xi Jinpeng and I approve this message." Kid Berwyn Oct 2024 #9
Well, there goes California. (BLUE) usonian Oct 2024 #11
Owner is from South Africa and friend of Elon Musk Nevilledog Oct 2024 #13
What is it with these South Africans? S/V Loner Oct 2024 #14
I weary of South Africans having power here ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 2024 #32
Apartheid Joinfortmill Oct 2024 #37
Exactly. This is why the GOP want forced babies from Caucasians, GreenWave Oct 2024 #54
The L. A. Times local TV news via Spectrum has been on default for months. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2024 #39
Theil is German tenderfoot Oct 2024 #56
Thiel did live in... S/V Loner Oct 2024 #58
Ah, I did not know that... thanks for the info. tenderfoot Oct 2024 #60
Fascist Asshole.. Tough Shit.. California is Going FOR Cha Oct 2024 #15
Such bastards!!!! LA times bdamomma Oct 2024 #40
The Filthy Rich Fascists are Everywhere! Too Bad Cha Oct 2024 #46
kicked .. likesmountains 52 Oct 2024 #16
so is it really journalism anymore 4catsmom Oct 2024 #17
Absolutely not senseandsensibility Oct 2024 #19
There are times orangecrush Oct 2024 #20
Another reason to find and follow trusted independent journalism. Bev54 Oct 2024 #21
billionaires rule the world et tu Oct 2024 #22
Those bdamomma Oct 2024 #41
Independent news needs to report this. 33taw Oct 2024 #23
Exhibit #1 on how our press is not free Stardust Mirror Oct 2024 #26
DU...drop your subscription if you have one PortTack Oct 2024 #27
Patrick Soon-Shiong is a South African verargert Oct 2024 #28
He's also a naturalized US citizen. onenote Oct 2024 #47
So, too, is Trump. Wednesdays Oct 2024 #55
No. Trump is a natural born citizen. onenote Oct 2024 #57
No. If he were he couldn't be President. Presidents must be "natural-born citizens" marybourg Oct 2024 #59
I had been thinking of returning to the LAT The Unmitigated Gall Oct 2024 #29
Hope they boycott the paper. Joinfortmill Oct 2024 #35
It ain't just newspapers twodogsbarking Oct 2024 #36
Patrick Soon-Shiong, born to Chinese immigrants in South Africa. Turns out he's one brilliant & uncomplicated human. ancianita Oct 2024 #38
If it's media and owned by billionaires, it's corrupt, most likely fascist, and definitely manipulated. Magoo48 Oct 2024 #45
Well, its a newspaper, so who will know? Joe Nation Oct 2024 #48
Every news source should interview the editorial board KS Toronado Oct 2024 #49
Apartheid - thrown out of South Africa ... dchill Oct 2024 #50
Worker-owned journalism jayschool2013 Oct 2024 #51
seen on twitter orleans Oct 2024 #53
And the editor of the editorials page resigned because of it. Buns_of_Fire Oct 2024 #61

BComplex

(9,914 posts)
1. Kicking so more eyes can see this.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 01:32 PM
Oct 2024

The owner of the paper should see sales of his publication drop substantially.

MineralMan

(151,269 posts)
2. The Editorial Department should issue a full-sized paper
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 01:34 PM
Oct 2024

With all pages blank, except for this statement on each page, in large, bold type:

"This page is intentionally left blank."

RockRaven

(19,375 posts)
4. Mask off time. If you read the LAT, now you know what kind of editorial
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 01:37 PM
Oct 2024

distortions and manipulations you are potentially being exposed to every day. Is that the sort of "news" you want?

rubbersole

(11,223 posts)
30. It used to be ownership of media outlets was restricted.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:17 PM
Oct 2024

Massive corporations controlling the "news"/message is a cancer on democracy. Billionaires buying elected representatives and media platforms is becoming the norm. It's on the ballot like never before. Government is the ONLY thing that can rein in this massive concentration of wealth. Repubs encourage it. Dems have a generational struggle ahead to reverse this trend. People vs unlimited money. No guarantees as who will prevail. Nov 5th is a good start.

rubbersole

(11,223 posts)
62. You are correct.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 01:07 AM
Oct 2024

Your options were greater when there was more competition. Journalistic integrity was paramount. Editors weren't just rubber stamps in independent newsrooms. Yeah, I know...and a quarter would buy you a cup of coffee...

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
44. While I don't know about news "papers"
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:51 PM
Oct 2024

It was the Telecommunications Act of 1996 that allowed the corporate monopolies of news stations and that was promoted and signed by Bill Clinton. As far as I'm concerned, no corporation or individual should own more than one news outlet. Even that wouldn't help the fact of individual newspapers being controlled by billionaires, though.

Volaris

(11,705 posts)
6. Id do it anyway, only NOW its going on the front page because its not JUST editorial,...
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 01:38 PM
Oct 2024

it'll be national news when everyone gets fired.

Quiet Em

(2,937 posts)
7. Freedom of the Press
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 01:40 PM
Oct 2024

They need to defend their right and publish the endorsement.

A search of the owner shows he wants a role in a Trump administration, health care czar

marybourg

(13,640 posts)
10. The "freedom of the press" belongs to he who owns the press.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 01:49 PM
Oct 2024

In this case the owner of the L. A. Times.

Quiet Em

(2,937 posts)
12. I didn't know that.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 01:54 PM
Oct 2024

That's awful.

Time for folks to cancel their subscriptions then.

And thank you for the clarification on this.

S/V Loner

(9,545 posts)
14. What is it with these South Africans?
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 02:07 PM
Oct 2024

Musk, Thiel and now Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong.
I guess they are still pissed about losing apartheid there and have plans to bring it back here in the States..

ArkansasDemocrat1

(3,213 posts)
32. I weary of South Africans having power here
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:22 PM
Oct 2024

Need to raise taxes so they don't have money to cause mischief with.

GreenWave

(12,641 posts)
54. Exactly. This is why the GOP want forced babies from Caucasians,
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 05:53 PM
Oct 2024

Their Apartheid acquaintances lost Big Time in South Africa from being the minority.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,412 posts)
39. The L. A. Times local TV news via Spectrum has been on default for months.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:34 PM
Oct 2024

I've tried to override the default in settings, but to no avail. I looked this guy up a year ago and felt comforted by his bio. But knowing he has a similar path as Musk is upsetting. There is a 19 year age difference. And his work is extremely admirable...

"American businessman, investor, medical researcher, philanthropist, and transplant surgeon. He is the inventor of the drug Abraxane, which became known for its efficacy against lung, breast, and pancreatic cancer."

"He has committed to the Giving Pledge and has pledged to give away at least half of his wealth to philanthropy."

 

tenderfoot

(8,982 posts)
56. Theil is German
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:57 PM
Oct 2024

I think he romanticizes the Third Reich rather than Apartheid. One and the same really.

Cha

(319,079 posts)
15. Fascist Asshole.. Tough Shit.. California is Going FOR
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 02:09 PM
Oct 2024

VP Harris & Gov Tim Walz in Spite of his Authoritarian Bullshit!

bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
40. Such bastards!!!! LA times
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:39 PM
Oct 2024

The voters will have something to say about that!!!!!! VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cha

(319,079 posts)
46. The Filthy Rich Fascists are Everywhere! Too Bad
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:56 PM
Oct 2024

For them.. This is a People Powered Election For VP Harris and Gov Tim Walz & Democracy!

4catsmom

(667 posts)
17. so is it really journalism anymore
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 02:34 PM
Oct 2024

when the paper is censored? This is a disgrace. Much like Elon and X.

senseandsensibility

(24,974 posts)
19. Absolutely not
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 02:44 PM
Oct 2024

It is not journalism. I have degrees in both Journalism and K-12 education. What is happening in journalism today is the equivalent of a school principal telling teachers that they can't explain concepts to their students. For informational purposes, there are "scripts" in teachers' textbooks that tell them what to say to students when they teach. But NO good teacher limits themselves to that. When students don't understand, teachers access the problem and adjust accordingly. So while a principal could cover themselves by saying that if you read the script and nothing else you are technically "teaching", it would be real instruction in name only. And that's what's going on in too much of journalism today.

orangecrush

(30,261 posts)
20. There are times
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 02:53 PM
Oct 2024


When integrity is more important than a job.

This is one of them.

Time for them to speak out.

Bev54

(13,431 posts)
21. Another reason to find and follow trusted independent journalism.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:00 PM
Oct 2024

Time to put these oligarch's out of business.

bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
41. Those
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:43 PM
Oct 2024

people like Musk, Thiel, and the Owner of LA Times hopefully will choke on that greed.

Stardust Mirror

(685 posts)
26. Exhibit #1 on how our press is not free
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:10 PM
Oct 2024

owners will fire anyone in their company/paper/channel who goes against their politics
and all the people working for said owner know it

that is how the press becomes biased

it's ok to have biased press if reporters/outlets are free to express their own biases and it's ok for owners to direct those biases but it's not ok when there are only 15 individual people who own/control 90% of all media in the country. There should be as many independent owners of media as there are varied points of view. Ownership should be limited to the billionaire class.

marybourg

(13,640 posts)
59. No. If he were he couldn't be President. Presidents must be "natural-born citizens"
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 09:53 PM
Oct 2024

according to the Constitution.

The Unmitigated Gall

(4,710 posts)
29. I had been thinking of returning to the LAT
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:16 PM
Oct 2024

After stopping the Post. Years ago I dropped NY Times over Judith Miller.

But not now. Wonder what the Editorial Board will do...

twodogsbarking

(18,785 posts)
36. It ain't just newspapers
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:31 PM
Oct 2024

And when you trust your television
What you get is what you got
'Cause when they own the information, oh
They can bend it all they want

John Mayer

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
38. Patrick Soon-Shiong, born to Chinese immigrants in South Africa. Turns out he's one brilliant & uncomplicated human.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:33 PM
Oct 2024
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Soon-Shiong

Soon-Shiong's net worth is $6.2 billion as of 2024.[9] He has been called the richest man in Los Angeles and one of the wealthiest doctors in the world.[10]...


from the New Yorker 2 years ago... a fascinating profile of a highly accomplished human. No wonder he and Elon are friends.

Soon-Shiong founded NantHealth in 2007 to provide fiber-optic, cloud-based data infrastructure to share healthcare information.[37] Soon-Shiong went on to found NantWorks in September 2011, whose mission was "to converge ultra-low power semiconductor technology, supercomputing, high performance, secure advanced networks and augmented intelligence to transform how we work, play, and live."[38][39] It owns a number of technology companies in the fields of healthcare, commerce, digital entertainment as well as a venture capital firm in the healthcare, education, science, and technology sectors. Particular technologies include machine vision, object and voice recognition, low power semiconductors, supercomputing, and networking technologies.[40] In January 2013, he founded another biotech company, NantOmics, to develop cancer drugs based on protein kinase inhibitors. NantOmics and its sister company, NantHealth, were subsidiaries of NantWorks.[41]

In 2013, Soon-Shiong became an early investor in Zoom, the video conferencing company.[42]

In September 2014, NantWorks LLC, a company headed by Soon-Shiong, invested $2.5 million in AccuRadio.[43]...the NantWorks galaxy, there is NantHealth, which builds diagnostic medical software; NantCloud, which offers cloud-computing services; ImmunityBio, which develops immunotherapy treatments for cancer; and NantStudios, a movie soundstage and visual-effects studio. There are also NantMobile, NantBioScience, NantEnergy, NantOmics, and NantGames...


Given his surgeon background and his drug research & development, his purchases of big pharmaceuticals, investments in South Africa, and his biggest project umbrella of all, Nantworks, why did he want to own the LA Times at all? Here's one clue, imo.

NantWorks’ logo is a feather emerging from a circle. When I asked Soon-Shiong what “Nant” referred to, he gestured to a ropework basket hanging from the bookshelf behind him. “You see this Apache basket? The word ‘Nantan’ stands for ‘he who speaks for the people,’ ” Soon-Shiong said. “I’m an honorary Navajo, and I’m on the Apache council. Because my job, frankly, is to help the marginalized and underserved.”






Magoo48

(6,721 posts)
45. If it's media and owned by billionaires, it's corrupt, most likely fascist, and definitely manipulated.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:54 PM
Oct 2024

Joe Nation

(1,112 posts)
48. Well, its a newspaper, so who will know?
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 04:02 PM
Oct 2024

I mean as popular as the print media is these days, not sure anyone will notice any kind of endorsement.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
49. Every news source should interview the editorial board
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 04:18 PM
Oct 2024

and then broadcast the RW shenanigans far and wide.

jayschool2013

(2,611 posts)
51. Worker-owned journalism
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 04:24 PM
Oct 2024
From the Columbia Journalism Review

404 Media and the hopes of worker-owned journalism

April 18, 2024
By Justin R. Silverman

What is it like to place a bet in a Las Vegas casino that’s been hacked and is refusing to pay the ransom? Last September, technology journalist Jason Koebler answered that question in the style of Hunter S. Thompson: he went to Vegas and started gambling.

Koebler wrote about the bizarre conditions at the Aria, the Bellagio, and other MGM-owned casinos, which had been the victim of a ransomware attack a week earlier—with employees paying out slot machines by hand and eight restaurants forced to share a single credit card processing machine. His story was picked up by national news outlets.

It wasn’t so different from the kind of reporting Koebler had done for years at his previous employer, Vice’s Motherboard. But this time, he was doing it for 404 Media, a new publication that he, along with his three coeditors, don’t just work for, they own.

SNIP

Koebler quit his job as editor in chief at Motherboard last summer, a few months after Vice declared bankruptcy. (I worked at Vice from 2020 to 2023, and sometimes produced videos for Motherboard.) He and three other Motherboard writers and editors, Samantha Cole, Joseph Cox, and Emanuel Maiberg, launched 404 Media in August. They named it after the error code generated when an internet browser can’t find a webpage.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,161 posts)
61. And the editor of the editorials page resigned because of it.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 10:58 PM
Oct 2024
Los Angeles Times editor resigns after newspaper withholds presidential endorsement
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143327197
LOS ANGELES (AP) — The editorials editor of the Los Angeles Times has resigned after the newspaper’s owner blocked the editorial board’s plans to endorse Democratic Vice President Kamala Harris for president, a journalism trade publication reported Wednesday.

Mariel Garza told the Columbia Journalism Review in an interview that she resigned because the Times was remaining silent on the contest in “dangerous times.”

“I am resigning because I want to make it clear that I am not OK with us being silent,” Garza said. “In dangerous times, honest people need to stand up. This is how I’m standing up.”

In a post on the social media platform X that did not directly mention the resignation, LA Times owner Patrick Soon-Shiong said the board was asked to do a factual analysis of the policies of Harris and Republican former President Donald Trump during their time at the White House.

Good for her. Good editors are hard to find. Unfortunately, wealthy naturalized nazis are way too common all of a sudden.
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