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Alhena

(3,076 posts)
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 06:03 PM Oct 2024

Allegation: video of Trump groping a minor about to be released - link

Last edited Wed Oct 23, 2024, 06:44 PM - Edit history (1)




Named Trump allies are reportedly calling it AI, which makes me think the video does exist:




edit:

More reports coming in, no idea if any of them are true:





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Allegation: video of Trump groping a minor about to be released - link (Original Post) Alhena Oct 2024 OP
Either produce the video or STFU JohnSJ Oct 2024 #1
Exactly. Drip. Drip. Drip is a leaky faucet, not a "bombshell." Raven123 Oct 2024 #5
and it gives the repugs an excuse to play their conspiracy games JohnSJ Oct 2024 #7
Exactly right FrankBooth Oct 2024 #11
Seems I remember DENVERPOPS Oct 2024 #82
Oh, The Story About Dubya Wasn't Fake. GB_RN Oct 2024 #89
Thx GB NC DENVERPOPS Oct 2024 #100
No Worries! GB_RN Oct 2024 #101
I think it's a headfake to distract from the Kelly story Tribetime Oct 2024 #28
Excellent point. JohnSJ Oct 2024 #53
Bingo! BoRaGard Oct 2024 #110
EXACTLY BigDemVoter Oct 2024 #90
The Story Is Big Enough... GB_RN Oct 2024 #93
Can it be proven if it's AI or not? mucifer Oct 2024 #2
You can often prove it is AI. The harder part is proving that it's not. tinrobot Oct 2024 #8
So far, good forensic analysis can spot AI, even the good ones... Wounded Bear Oct 2024 #9
That's good. I expect they will do AI on VP Harris and Walz. mucifer Oct 2024 #12
Yes, but.. RichardRay Oct 2024 #13
AI videos are still pretty easy to spot Diraven Oct 2024 #40
If the kid he groped speaks out Beachnutt Oct 2024 #50
She's probably been told by maga parents Tree Lady Oct 2024 #55
Very wealthy donor parents paid off zorbasd Oct 2024 #64
Oh, wow! ShazzieB Oct 2024 #81
She was 24. underpants Oct 2024 #103
Yes it can. onecaliberal Oct 2024 #66
Yes, like doctored images, AI leave undisputable traces of itself that anyone... SKKY Oct 2024 #92
His fans... Mike Nelson Oct 2024 #3
Exactly what I am thinking Siwsan Oct 2024 #41
When I told my husband Tree Lady Oct 2024 #56
Trump ramped up executions of federal prisoners markodochartaigh Oct 2024 #67
It won't hit hard enough unless the donor dad is publicly outraged on camera. hedda_foil Oct 2024 #4
If these stories were true and there is video why wouldn't they drop them now? Jersey Devil Oct 2024 #6
Though if it was Walz instead of moonscape Oct 2024 #10
The literally already tried that Diraven Oct 2024 #44
Read on another thread here on DI FalloutShelter Oct 2024 #15
John Kasich's twin daughters are grown up Prairie Gates Oct 2024 #18
Good to know. FalloutShelter Oct 2024 #33
And isn't he anti-Trump? TommyT139 Oct 2024 #34
yes, he is very anti-trump Gato Moteado Oct 2024 #71
A recent event would add weight TommyT139 Oct 2024 #29
Ding ding ding! MontanaFarmer Oct 2024 #79
twitter lol making $$ for musk to give to trump nt msongs Oct 2024 #14
fuck he gropes his own daughter Ivanka lapfog_1 Oct 2024 #16
Hell, they'll get off on it durablend Oct 2024 #35
THIS! He gropes his B.See Oct 2024 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author lapfog_1 Oct 2024 #17
A "Man of Character" has new allegations! Tarzanrock Oct 2024 #19
Pedophiles can't stop abusing children Farmer-Rick Oct 2024 #77
Fitzmas 2024 irisblue Oct 2024 #20
Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time. :) n/t servermsh Oct 2024 #24
Some people there videohead5 Oct 2024 #21
The NYT headline will be: "Trump offers support to child at donor event" n/t servermsh Oct 2024 #22
NYT: Trump unveils new childcare policy proposal FrankBooth Oct 2024 #36
Ha! So true. paleotn Oct 2024 #60
Was it Ivanka? BWdem4life Oct 2024 #23
Perhaps it's TFG at one of P Diddy's parties... Quakerfriend Oct 2024 #25
I hope that if it does come out it was a hundred percent real Tribetime Oct 2024 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author lindysalsagal Oct 2024 #27
I read the warning by Trump loyalists earlier today peggysue2 Oct 2024 #30
His voters will believe it is AI and will not care. This will not make any difference. beaglelover Oct 2024 #31
That does sound Big. Course Cha Oct 2024 #32
How weird. That's what Epstein did. Baitball Blogger Oct 2024 #37
Already said the big 'secret' if there is one durablend Oct 2024 #38
Now it makes sense. This is what the RW social media system was talking about AI stuff against Trump. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2024 #39
He admitted all of this in 2016 newdeal2 Oct 2024 #42
Knowing the MO that we all have seen and heard of tRUMP over the years, AI wouldn't be my first choice to SWBTATTReg Oct 2024 #43
We need extreme caution here. johnp3907 Oct 2024 #45
+1 jalan48 Oct 2024 #63
It's not going to end his campaign birdographer Oct 2024 #46
You're right. You know what did have an effect, ironically? The "Trump is smelly" story. Scrivener7 Oct 2024 #47
Yesterday the russians released an AI that Claimed Walz raped teenagers. Jacson6 Oct 2024 #48
A minor? Really? TommyT139 Oct 2024 #51
See my post below your -- debunked and stupid. LauraInLA Oct 2024 #75
You misunderstood, and are unnecessarily rude. TommyT139 Oct 2024 #86
I apologize for the misunderstanding -- I was saying the fraud was stupid. And you had posted under a comment LauraInLA Oct 2024 #95
Accepted TommyT139 Oct 2024 #96
Yes, and it turned out the guy used the name of one of Walz' students. LauraInLA Oct 2024 #74
Magaloons will be proud of him for it, Beachnutt Oct 2024 #49
do AI fakes come with this much of a pre-warning? ecstatic Oct 2024 #52
Is it just me epreic01 Oct 2024 #54
If the parents are maga they have Tree Lady Oct 2024 #58
Thank you. If it is true, the minor should be protected and not used for political football. chowder66 Oct 2024 #83
So the Dirty ol Traitor's allies know it's Bad... Cha Oct 2024 #57
If being a fan of Nazism didn't phase the cult, why would assaulting a kid? sinkingfeeling Oct 2024 #59
Yep nothing will change the magat minds , absolutely nothing. debm55 Oct 2024 #111
If the evidence is significant, will local law enforcement be compelled to prosecute? paleotn Oct 2024 #61
Its suspect Halperin teased this right after the Kelly story broke yesterday night Tribetime Oct 2024 #62
There isn't even a consensus whether it's photos or a video. We should focus on what's in front of us until it breaks. LauraInLA Oct 2024 #65
The man stole the death benefits from the widows of our G.I.s with his fake Trump University and paid ... Botany Oct 2024 #68
why would it end his campaign? Kali Oct 2024 #69
Right?! Sparkly Oct 2024 #78
Seems bogus johnnyfins Oct 2024 #70
So, it's not the photos of his own daughter this time? nt TBF Oct 2024 #72
The Cult will blame the minor Thrill Oct 2024 #76
It stinks like karl rove with the national guard story with Dan Rather Tribetime Oct 2024 #80
I don't know whether to believe this or not, but someone is either going to be able to corroborate this or not. Gore1FL Oct 2024 #84
This is going to need to be vetted fully and ideally with witnesses corroborating it DetroitLegalBeagle Oct 2024 #85
25 women have already come forward saying he assaulted them viva la Oct 2024 #87
Maybe SEEING that Pig in action will have more of an effect BigDemVoter Oct 2024 #88
Plus recency. MontanaFarmer Oct 2024 #106
Why is all the good stuff future tense? LeftInTX Oct 2024 #91
i'll beluev eit when i see it... but...... Takket Oct 2024 #94
Here's what I worry about TheGreatConspiracy Oct 2024 #97
I actually think they will say "no VP Harris and Walz are both pedophiles not trump" and there will mucifer Oct 2024 #98
If this is true, it'll get newdayneeded Oct 2024 #99
She was 24. Happened in 1992. She was born in 1968. underpants Oct 2024 #102
Not the same story Johnny2X2X Oct 2024 #104
Oh really??? Okay. Thanks. underpants Oct 2024 #108
Ask Yourself This: If Someone Was Filming This Alleged Assault - Why Didn't They..... global1 Oct 2024 #105
It might have been someone panning the room with a camera robbob Oct 2024 #107
What About His Secret Service People?.... global1 Oct 2024 #113
Who actually has the video? Renew Deal Oct 2024 #109
The longer they wait... lame54 Oct 2024 #112
Still waiting... MineralMan Oct 2024 #114
He's been groping Ivanka on video since she was about 11 Ruby the Liberal Oct 2024 #115

FrankBooth

(1,852 posts)
11. Exactly right
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 06:11 PM
Oct 2024

This feels like the 'Trump is fucked bombshell about to drop' shit we heard for 6 months in 2017. I'll believe it when I see it.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
82. Seems I remember
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:35 PM
Oct 2024

that they set up Dan Rather with a fake story, and then torpedoed his career ???????????????????

GB_RN

(3,561 posts)
89. Oh, The Story About Dubya Wasn't Fake.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:52 PM
Oct 2024

The problem was that CBS failed to authenticate the documents they had. The ensuing scandal over the documents themselves shoved the issue of Dubya having been AWOL, off the radar.

GB_RN

(3,561 posts)
93. The Story Is Big Enough...
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 09:01 PM
Oct 2024

To have hit the top of HuffPost’s front page. Apparently, the person making the allegation has done an interview with The Guardian.

tinrobot

(12,064 posts)
8. You can often prove it is AI. The harder part is proving that it's not.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 06:09 PM
Oct 2024

Maybe if it was backed up with original footage or eyewitness testimony.

Wounded Bear

(64,345 posts)
9. So far, good forensic analysis can spot AI, even the good ones...
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 06:10 PM
Oct 2024

So, maybe that's what they're waiting for, verifying the video.

RichardRay

(2,613 posts)
13. Yes, but..
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 06:12 PM
Oct 2024

It but Trumpists wouldn’t do the work to be able to understand the proof.

Pearls, meet swine.

Beachnutt

(8,913 posts)
50. If the kid he groped speaks out
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:18 PM
Oct 2024

and it is on video he is busted.
The magaloons and evangelicals will be proud of him though.

Tree Lady

(13,284 posts)
55. She's probably been told by maga parents
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:29 PM
Oct 2024

to say nothing, also parents been paid off with a NDA. That would be my guess and definitely not the first time.

zorbasd

(526 posts)
64. Very wealthy donor parents paid off
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:01 PM
Oct 2024

I would not think so. The thing to ask though, will the parent's political ideology and love for Trump trump their love and dignity for their daughter. I say they will chose yes.

SKKY

(12,801 posts)
92. Yes, like doctored images, AI leave undisputable traces of itself that anyone...
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:56 PM
Oct 2024

...with some knowledge of how it functions will be able to identify.

Mike Nelson

(10,943 posts)
3. His fans...
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 06:06 PM
Oct 2024

... won't care. They will say it's fake or secretly wish they were the groper or grope-e.

Siwsan

(27,838 posts)
41. Exactly what I am thinking
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 06:36 PM
Oct 2024

His cultists are too deeply emmeshed for much of anything to shake their devotion.

Tree Lady

(13,284 posts)
56. When I told my husband
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:30 PM
Oct 2024

he said that will get him 50,000 more votes. In our sick society he might be right.

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
67. Trump ramped up executions of federal prisoners
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:09 PM
Oct 2024

on death row in the final months of his presidency. That is the presidential equivalent of shooting someone on 5th Ave, and he obviously thought that it would solidify his base. It probably did. And now it is forgotten, at least by those who wouldn't support him.

Jersey Devil

(10,836 posts)
6. If these stories were true and there is video why wouldn't they drop them now?
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 06:08 PM
Oct 2024

One explanation might be that the videos are being tested forensically to see if they are AI.

TommyT139

(2,357 posts)
29. A recent event would add weight
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 06:31 PM
Oct 2024

Although if there is a video, it sadly means there is yet another victim of Trump's disgusting abusive behavior.

MontanaFarmer

(761 posts)
79. Ding ding ding!
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:29 PM
Oct 2024

RECENCY is the key here if true. This may well have happened this month and certainly this election cycle. Can not be explained away, if true. If not true, well, he's still a nazi admirer.

lapfog_1

(31,906 posts)
16. fuck he gropes his own daughter Ivanka
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 06:14 PM
Oct 2024

when she was like 12... and later boasted that he would like to date her... on TV yet.

And nothing. nada, long in the past now. Forgotten.

No one is going to care if he was videoed AT EPSTEINs forcibly raping a 14 year old who is screaming "no" and trying to push him off her... with sound and witnesses.

won't lose him a single vote. his cult is already brain washed past saving.

B.See

(8,532 posts)
73. THIS! He gropes his
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:21 PM
Oct 2024

own daughter, there're pictures of that, walked in on her nude, by her own testimony, and agreed on Stern's show she's a"hot piece of a----" who he'd marry if he could.

So this won't make a bit of difference to his maga devotees. His hypocritical evangelistic hoard will speak of forgiveness, they'll call it a lie and will double down on their own festering hate and malice in response.

These fkrs aren't normal. A shade short of zombie-like. Don't expect any better of them.

Response to Alhena (Original post)

 

Tarzanrock

(1,250 posts)
19. A "Man of Character" has new allegations!
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 06:20 PM
Oct 2024

It's "difficult" to believe that an "ajudicated" rapist and a man with more than 20 credible allegations of intentional "sexual assault" crimes/torts would engage in criminal pedophilia conduct/acts with an underage girl. I'm pretty sure that Blovanka. when questioned under oath, can point on a doll in a courtroom where Daddy improperly touched her.

Farmer-Rick

(12,670 posts)
77. Pedophiles can't stop abusing children
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:23 PM
Oct 2024

The recidivism rate is huge. Reoffending for a pedophile is just a way of life.

I always knew Trump was a pedo. You can just tell the way he acts around children, his daughter, sons and of course all the allegations. Him being BFFs with Epstein and flying around on Epstein's plane is just icing on the cake the pedophile uses to lure the kid.

I bet he doesn't stick to just raping little girls either. Pedos, may have a type, but a lot of them will take any child that's not protected boy or girl. It's all about the abuse, power, control and causing pain. It's not about the sex.

I bet his children had it really rough. I'm surprised they didn't murder him when they grew up, like the Mendez brothers did.

videohead5

(2,952 posts)
21. Some people there
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 06:24 PM
Oct 2024

Will come forward if the video is released. People were there other than supporters. The AI excuse will not work.

FrankBooth

(1,852 posts)
36. NYT: Trump unveils new childcare policy proposal
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 06:35 PM
Oct 2024

"The former president, intent on following through with his stated goal of helping the women and children of America, was seen in vigorous conversation with several young women at a recent donor event. "I took the time from my busy schedule because I wanted their feedback,' Trump said. "I want to serve these women, they are the future."
-Maggie Habs

Quakerfriend

(5,882 posts)
25. Perhaps it's TFG at one of P Diddy's parties...
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 06:27 PM
Oct 2024

Word has it that some of his obscene videos (including some very well known people in compromising positions) are selling for millions on the dark web. 🤨

Tribetime

(7,145 posts)
26. I hope that if it does come out it was a hundred percent real
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 06:28 PM
Oct 2024

I remember the george bush story about the national guard that backfired everywhere

Response to Alhena (Original post)

peggysue2

(12,533 posts)
30. I read the warning by Trump loyalists earlier today
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 06:31 PM
Oct 2024

There's definitely chatter out there that something's about to drop.

Cha

(319,158 posts)
32. That does sound Big. Course
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 06:31 PM
Oct 2024

We know the Cult won’t care.. Not even Melanoma.

But Indies might.

Baitball Blogger

(52,367 posts)
37. How weird. That's what Epstein did.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 06:35 PM
Oct 2024

The impression was that Trump disassociated himself from him because of it. So this would be huge.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,171 posts)
39. Now it makes sense. This is what the RW social media system was talking about AI stuff against Trump.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 06:36 PM
Oct 2024

Wish I could say, I am shocked. But not with this scumbag;

SWBTATTReg

(26,262 posts)
43. Knowing the MO that we all have seen and heard of tRUMP over the years, AI wouldn't be my first choice to
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 06:37 PM
Oct 2024

believe the video clip, if there is such a thing. Over the years, we all have heard of such stories, but nothing has ever come out (that we're aware of).

But it wouldn't surprise me knowing how disgusting tRUMP is, and what a sexual predator he is, as the many women he's attacked over the years can testify.

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
46. It's not going to end his campaign
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 06:59 PM
Oct 2024

"Grab them by the pussy" did not end his campaign. 34 indictments did not end his campaign. An insurrection did not end his campaign. Stealing top secret documents and leaking the info to our enemies did not end his campaign. WHY would anyone think him groping a minor would cause so much as a ripple?

Scrivener7

(59,534 posts)
47. You're right. You know what did have an effect, ironically? The "Trump is smelly" story.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:06 PM
Oct 2024

Seriously. That thing had traction, even among his supporters. Also "weird." We should bring them back for these last few weeks.

Jacson6

(2,018 posts)
48. Yesterday the russians released an AI that Claimed Walz raped teenagers.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:11 PM
Oct 2024

I wouldn't believe this at all unless the victim comes forward to state that it happened.

TommyT139

(2,357 posts)
86. You misunderstood, and are unnecessarily rude.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:47 PM
Oct 2024

I am aware of the Russian fake "Walz video." I was replying to the Jacsen comment about not believing the current topic of discussion, a possible Trump video, unless the minor victim of Trump's alleged groping comes forward.

If you think me "stupid" for challenging a person who insists on having a MINOR VICTIM reveal themselves to the world before random-DU person decides it is valid, then I suggest you look in the mirror and try to see if there is any empathy and compassion there.

LauraInLA

(2,248 posts)
95. I apologize for the misunderstanding -- I was saying the fraud was stupid. And you had posted under a comment
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 09:12 PM
Oct 2024

about the Walz fake, so that is what I responded to.

TommyT139

(2,357 posts)
96. Accepted
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 09:18 PM
Oct 2024

The Walz fake doesn't depict a minor -- and the guy has a bad accent too, but that's beside the point.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
52. do AI fakes come with this much of a pre-warning?
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:24 PM
Oct 2024

How do all of his acolytes know that it's coming if it's fake?

epreic01

(262 posts)
54. Is it just me
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:27 PM
Oct 2024

If I had videoed Donald groping an underage girl I would have moved mountains to get it to the right people at the FBI. I would have given it to the Harris campaign to get to the FBI.
I would never sit on a video like this and wait to use it as an October surprise. And if true and I was that girl I would feel violated having the video released to the public. If she was indeed victimized, is it not victimizing her again to release the video? Even if her face is blurred out… it just doesn’t sit right with me.

Tree Lady

(13,284 posts)
58. If the parents are maga they have
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:35 PM
Oct 2024

probably been paid off with a NDA and parents told girl not to talk, probably scared her she could be killed if she talks.

chowder66

(12,255 posts)
83. Thank you. If it is true, the minor should be protected and not used for political football.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:37 PM
Oct 2024

Cha

(319,158 posts)
57. So the Dirty ol Traitor's allies know it's Bad...
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:31 PM
Oct 2024

I thought TSF could do anything and get away with it.

paleotn

(22,230 posts)
61. If the evidence is significant, will local law enforcement be compelled to prosecute?
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 07:40 PM
Oct 2024

This is a potential felony after all.

LauraInLA

(2,248 posts)
65. There isn't even a consensus whether it's photos or a video. We should focus on what's in front of us until it breaks.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:07 PM
Oct 2024

Botany

(77,350 posts)
68. The man stole the death benefits from the widows of our G.I.s with his fake Trump University and paid ...
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:14 PM
Oct 2024

.. a 25 million $ penalty and nothing happened to him. I will be surprised if anything happens this
time. He had proven links to the mob, laundered Russian dirty money through his properties, caused
the deaths of millions of people from C-19, is out on bail after being convicted of 34 felonies, and his
mouth breathing followers still love him.



johnnyfins

(3,778 posts)
70. Seems bogus
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:15 PM
Oct 2024

Get me some Epstein security film, and we're in business...OH, Bill Barr took care of all that footage. Fucker.

Gore1FL

(22,951 posts)
84. I don't know whether to believe this or not, but someone is either going to be able to corroborate this or not.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:41 PM
Oct 2024

If it turns out to be true, I don't think his cult will care.

The fact that this is so deep within the "realm of the easily believable" in and of itself is pretty awful.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(2,505 posts)
85. This is going to need to be vetted fully and ideally with witnesses corroborating it
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:47 PM
Oct 2024

Because if we run with this and it turns out to be bullshit, its going to back fire on us. The timing and the fact that whoever claims to have the tape has been shopping it around to news outlets vs handing it over to law enforcement is going to be seen as suspicious by many. Could be a ploy to distract from an actual story that could be coming or is one that they hope the media will run with, get shown its fake, thereby ruining the media's credibility and distracting the everyone's attention in the last 2 weeks of the campaign.

viva la

(4,599 posts)
87. 25 women have already come forward saying he assaulted them
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:48 PM
Oct 2024

He was judged a sexual assaulter in court already.

No one cares. It's shocking how morally bankrupt Trumpers are, especially all those awful Republican women.

BigDemVoter

(4,700 posts)
88. Maybe SEEING that Pig in action will have more of an effect
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:52 PM
Oct 2024

than hearing him brag about **$$Y-Grabbing. . . . What a low life slime ball.

MontanaFarmer

(761 posts)
106. Plus recency.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 12:47 PM
Oct 2024

This allegation/rumor, which is all it is right now, supposedly happened quite recently. I think that makes it pretty potent.

Takket

(23,720 posts)
94. i'll beluev eit when i see it... but......
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 09:10 PM
Oct 2024

at this point the american public is so fucked up i don't even know if it would cost him votes or GAIN them because there is a certain uneducated portion of the voting public that actually sympathizes with him because he's hammered on things SO OFTEN that they are convinced it is just people trying to tear him down. like, they think "no one could possibly be that bad".

97. Here's what I worry about
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 09:31 PM
Oct 2024

I worry that, if Trump is exposed as a pedophile, his supporters won’t change their minds about him. They will change their minds about pedophilia. Their devotion is that great.

mucifer

(25,670 posts)
98. I actually think they will say "no VP Harris and Walz are both pedophiles not trump" and there will
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 08:21 AM
Oct 2024

be NO convincing them otherwise.

 

newdayneeded

(2,493 posts)
99. If this is true, it'll get
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 08:41 AM
Oct 2024

those Maga fence sitters off the fence for sure. They'll dust those red hat's off saying "Yes, now that's the classic Trump I was waiting for!!"

global1

(26,507 posts)
105. Ask Yourself This: If Someone Was Filming This Alleged Assault - Why Didn't They.....
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 12:46 PM
Oct 2024

try to stop it while it was happening?

Wouldn't that be the right thing to do? Stop it!!!

robbob

(3,750 posts)
107. It might have been someone panning the room with a camera
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 12:52 PM
Oct 2024

And all of a sudden there’s ’dump, groping a 12 year old. And the very next thing they did was stop filming, and move to intervene.

In absence of the evidence, it’s kind of useless to speculate.

global1

(26,507 posts)
113. What About His Secret Service People?....
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 01:33 PM
Oct 2024

Wouldn't they be around protecting him? Would they have a role in trying to stop him from doing this - if only to prevent him from making this mistake and getting in more trouble? Wouldn't they want to protect the 12y/o girl as well?

And what always bothered me about this story is that it happened at a donor event.

That too makes me suspect.

Tr**p would be highly visible to the attendees at this event. All eyes (or at least many eyes) would be on him. Is he really that stupid to try an grope a 12y/o girl at such an event.

I'd be very careful about blowing this thing out of proportion - without video confirmation and assurances that it wasn't AI produced.

This is too close to Nov 5th and again I'm suspect that it is a Repug or Campaign trap/dirty trick - by the Tr**p people to embarrass Harris and the Dems - an October Surprise.

Renew Deal

(85,179 posts)
109. Who actually has the video?
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 12:57 PM
Oct 2024

Who is in possession of it? Is the media in possession of it?

MineralMan

(151,281 posts)
114. Still waiting...
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 02:39 PM
Oct 2024

And that's the problem with posting all sorts of posts about things like this.

Yuck!

Ruby the Liberal

(26,665 posts)
115. He's been groping Ivanka on video since she was about 11
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 06:00 PM
Oct 2024

Does that not count for anything with these people? *sigh*

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