I'm a little suspicious of the latest "tape"

[usonian]

The pee tape and the Epstein tapes never showed. This could be a planted diversion.

OTOH, the testimony of previous officials is genuine.

The Harris-Walz campaign is sticking to the issues they believe are most urgent to voters.


Calling Donny a groper is like calling water wet.

[TwilightZone]

1. The only source says that he "was told" there's a video.

No evidence and no confirmation, plus the source is apparently a bit dodgy.

Until there's something better than that, we shouldn't bother with it. Not that that will stop anyone.

[Bev54]

2. It is good to be skeptical until there is something confirmed. The fact that there is not a

criminal investigation or charges makes me doubt that it is real.

[usonian]

3. Agree with the above. I advise sticking to what the campaign is focusing upon.

They're pretty smart.

I put up a shopping list of issues, but that's just so DU'ers can have the right response to any point that comes up in conversation.

https://democraticunderground.com/100219593621

[RockRaven]

4. It is very feasible that the story is false.

Not because TCF doesn't ever assault minors, but just because there may not be a tape in this particular described instance.

Could be true but not proven/provable (in a timely manner anyway). Could be a smear counting on prior plausibility for traction. Could be a faux-smear from his own side to distract from the Hitler shit, or to gain sympathy by being a "victim" of "fake news."

Until there is some evidence to evaluate, this is just more click bait gossip bullshit. Everyone already knows he is a sexual assailant, or denies that reality despite ample evidence.

[regnaD kciN]

5. Yawn...ask me again if/when the tape actually appears...

…and is verified as not AI-generated.

[ecstatic]

6. why? the mofo admitted to grabbing women by the "pussy" because,

in his mind, "they let you do it." He admitted to being a sexual assaulter. The only additional question is whether he is also a pedophile, and there's a lot of evidence that he is, in addition to his incestuous tendencies.

[0rganism]

11. It's not about whether there's precedent but rather whether there's credible evidence of this new allegation

It's entirely possible that the event happened and was documented. It's also possible that the GOP ops have ginned up a verifiable fake to intercept the scandal, like Rove did with W's national guard "service". Remember, the alleged victim comes from one of TSF's big donor families, would you trust them to sell you a used car?

Imagine the fun we'd have if the remaining liberal punditry focused in on this allegation, and the video evidence surfaced much to everyone's delight, and then evidence that it's compromised/AI-generated turns up. TSF would parade it around, claiming another instance of "complete exoneration", a complete disaster for anyone who embraced the story.

It's not like there isn't already a list of TSF's misdeeds a mile long. Keeping a soft focus on his fitness for office and suitability as a role model for American youth seems like the best play right now.

[stopdiggin]

12. the 'why' has to do with whether this particular tape actually exists.

And the danger of building up a false narrative in saying that it does - without having that evidence.

Much better to stand with the evidence that we do have, and has already been demonstrated true.

[LeftInTX]

7. It's a RW spoof by Mark Halperin

[Cha]

8. This Allegedly is the Groping

of a Minor who is the Daughter of a Donor at a Dinner party.

I'm just waiting to see what happens next.. like a member said..

".. If it's Confirmed... it should be a legal matter and he should be Arrested. If parents know and did not report it they should be charged with child endangerment.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19599999

[sheshe2]

13. It should be.

Sadly we know that will never happen, at least before the election, Cha. The Access Hollywood tape never made a difference.

[Cha]

17. yeah... I shouldn't really comment

on this until there's evidence. So Tempting though because it sounds just like him.

It could be Rat Fucking and blaming it on a Dem pushing a Fake story. .. to Distract from "Hitler & Gen John Kelly 's "TSF is a Fascist" news.

[sheshe2]

21. I was trying to say that the facts of this story may well be there...

However it will not matter to a MAGGOT. He can literally kill someone on 5th Ave and they will applaud and vote for him anyway.

It's pretty frightening, Cha.

Vote Blue

[FrankBooth]

9. You're right to be suspicious

And if you're suspicious, you know the Harris campaign folks are doubly so.

I'm not worried about this so-called tape at all. I am confident they won't touch it unless it's indisputable, so if it is in fact some kind of RW ruse, it'll change nothing. If it's real, then I'll guess we'll get a look at it soon enough.

[usonian]

15. For crying out loud, she's a lawyer, prosecutor and Attorney General.

I leave this matter to the experts.

I just don’t want a diversion from the major issues (do you remember the major issues? )

Everything they do is in the fascist/Putin playbook.

This is America. The slowest thing to happen is criminal justice. The fastest thing to happen is misinformation.

And crime, of course.

[JoseBalow]

10. "Alleged" tape

Let me know when something real happens.

[Coventina]

14. It would not make any difference. He could shoot someone on 5th Ave. and not lose a single voter.

It's a cult.

[Skittles]

16. could someone tell me

WHY would GROPING A MINOR be planted as a diversion?

[usonian]

19. Because if the "tape" is nonexistent, then the Dems are accused of cooking up a false story.

Department of dirty tricks.

Could he have done it? As I said, “Is water wet?”

As others have said, that’s a criminal offense and left to law enforcement to check out.

[Skittles]

20. I guess I'd think no one would want such a false accusation

especially with all other disgusting sex habits associated with him

[NBachers]

18. It sound like a "brilliant" move by James O'Keefe Project Veritas Breitbart types to me. I'll wait for proof.

[Foolacious]

23. What are we talking about?

[usonian]

24. Report of a recording of T---- groping a minor.

https://democraticunderground.com/100219599337

It might be a setup to show Dump being victimized ( since he is ALWAYS the victim) of fake news if the "tape" doesn't show up.

Especially to divert attention from a barrage of his former staffers condemning his policies and actions, which they should have done 7 years ago, but didn't.