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applegrove

(132,217 posts)
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 01:07 PM Oct 2024

Arizona ballots damaged after USPS collection box set ablaze in Dem-leaning county: report

Arizona ballots damaged after USPS collection box set ablaze in Dem-leaning county: report

David Edwards
October 24, 2024 1:02PM ET

https://www.rawstory.com/maricopa-ballot-fire/

"SNIP...........

Arizona law enforcement officials are conducting an arson investigation after election ballots were damaged when a USPS mail collection box was burned in Maricopa County, a Democratic stronghold.

ABC 15 reported that crews responded to the USPS Osborn Station around 1:30 a.m. on Thursday and found a mail collection box on fire.

"Approximately 20 electoral ballots were damaged, along with additional miscellaneous mail," Phoenix Fire Department officials revealed, according to ABC 15.

Phoenix Fire Department's Arson Investigation Taskforce launched an investigation into the fire.

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Arizona ballots damaged after USPS collection box set ablaze in Dem-leaning county: report (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2024 OP
Yeah goddamnit, not surprised expecting more. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2024 #1
DHS Warns Law Enforcement Election Deniers May Attempt to Bomb Drop Boxes usonian Oct 2024 #2
I will give the mega Nazi fascist scum credit Eliot Rosewater Oct 2024 #3
I took my CA mail-in ballot straight to the County Clerk's office. usonian Oct 2024 #5
And you might be able to arrest all of them but if it's after Eliot Rosewater Oct 2024 #8
CA and some other states use BallotTrack to notify voters if and when ballots were received and counted. usonian Oct 2024 #11
Yes, here in Colorado! colorado_ufo Oct 2024 #17
BallotTrax itself is in Denver usonian Oct 2024 #18
LOL! Moved to Denver, Colorado from New Orleans in 1969. colorado_ufo Oct 2024 #23
Same here in NJ. Squaredeal Oct 2024 #27
Except now the charges will be even higher, surely? Baitball Blogger Oct 2024 #13
It doesn't matter once the damage is done. usonian Oct 2024 #14
If they destroy enough ballots on election night, or close to it, it could throw an election. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2024 #24
I get the impression that enough of the ballots were still intact to give them a chance to notify the electors. Baitball Blogger Oct 2024 #25
I fear some nut is going to make a play on a major counting center. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2024 #28
Federal offense gab13by13 Oct 2024 #4
Don't know if that sarcasm and even if it isn't Eliot Rosewater Oct 2024 #9
Merrick's on the case --- as soon as he prosecutes whoever stole bitcoin from a billionaire. usonian Oct 2024 #12
G.O.P. war on American democracy now flaming BoRaGard Oct 2024 #6
They do it because they do not fear us they do not fear our reaction Eliot Rosewater Oct 2024 #10
I've been waiting for something like this. I wouldn't use a drop box. nt LAS14 Oct 2024 #7
My mail carrier (a staunch Democrat) says he would never drop an absentee ballot into a mail box. elocs Oct 2024 #26
Ballots "damaged"? JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2024 #15
Many states have ballot tracking, so people can tell "shortly" if their ballot was damaged. usonian Oct 2024 #19
Local news should be able to alert people to call about their ballots lindysalsagal Oct 2024 #16
Freaking Arizona. Has turned into a scary place. kerry-is-my-prez Oct 2024 #20
Looters should be shot on sight. This shit will end quickly. jalan48 Oct 2024 #21
Ballot collection boxes should all be monitored by cctv. Martin68 Oct 2024 #22

Eliot Rosewater

(34,285 posts)
1. Yeah goddamnit, not surprised expecting more.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 01:11 PM
Oct 2024

Did they just steal the election there doing this it won’t be the last one, what else are they doing Jesus fucking Christ.

Every vote counts, 20 votes could make a difference, and how many other places will they do this and how many other things like this will they do, and when will we say enough is enough and react to it as if it is an act of fucking WAR 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Eliot Rosewater

(34,285 posts)
3. I will give the mega Nazi fascist scum credit
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 01:18 PM
Oct 2024

For their willingness to do anything no matter what to steal this election, because they know we just won’t be prepared.

I mean what the fuck are we supposed to do if 1 million goddamn votes ballots are bombed 10 days before the election are you fucking kidding me🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

usonian

(25,325 posts)
5. I took my CA mail-in ballot straight to the County Clerk's office.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 01:30 PM
Oct 2024

They discuss all this domestic terrorism on "free speech" forums.

I hope that DHS and FBI are monitoring, even if that pisses off Generalissimo Musk.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,285 posts)
8. And you might be able to arrest all of them but if it's after
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 01:39 PM
Oct 2024

They burn the ballots, we are completely completely fucked.

usonian

(25,325 posts)
11. CA and some other states use BallotTrack to notify voters if and when ballots were received and counted.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 01:46 PM
Oct 2024

Got my acknowledgement from a Friday drop-off on Monday.

Not every state is going to do this, of course.

usonian

(25,325 posts)
18. BallotTrax itself is in Denver
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 03:08 PM
Oct 2024

9501 Northfield Blvd.
Denver, Colorado 80238

My CA location is "only" a half mile high.
Water boils at 207 ℉ and not 212.
A damn nuisance for pasta lovers!

Trying the pressure cooker again.

colorado_ufo

(6,252 posts)
23. LOL! Moved to Denver, Colorado from New Orleans in 1969.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 06:50 PM
Oct 2024

I was used to beans cooking in about two hours. Two days later, I could have still bounced them on the counter! When camping in the mountains, I couldn't even heat a CAN of beans. Yes, pressure cookers are the answer.

Squaredeal

(733 posts)
27. Same here in NJ.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 07:40 PM
Oct 2024

Another progressive, predominately Democratic state, despite our previously terrible governor, Republican Chis Christie, who went after political opponents (Bridgegate) and returned Obama infrastructure money to build a new Hudson River railroad tunnel, designed to alleviate commuter delays, in order to try to make the Obama administration appear to be incompetent.

usonian

(25,325 posts)
14. It doesn't matter once the damage is done.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 01:59 PM
Oct 2024

The slowest thing is criminal justice.
The fastest is crime.

What if the Jan 6 coup had been successful?
All the thugs would be wearing medals of honor.

Baitball Blogger

(52,348 posts)
25. I get the impression that enough of the ballots were still intact to give them a chance to notify the electors.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 07:20 PM
Oct 2024

But the only thing that will stop it is arrests and high fines.

gab13by13

(32,324 posts)
4. Federal offense
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 01:30 PM
Oct 2024

Garland will be all over this. He is probably installing surveillance cameras as I type this. If you don't hear anything, not to worry, Garland doesn't leak.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,285 posts)
9. Don't know if that sarcasm and even if it isn't
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 01:41 PM
Oct 2024

What good will catching them after they do it do, the election will be stolen by then and they will all be turned into heroes.

Democratic ballots all over the nation could be destroyed before they are counted and there won’t be time for them to vote again it would take forever to figure out who ballot was destroyed etc. yet the end it’s the end motherfuckers🎉🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

But every time someone like me would warn about this or say we better be prepared or let it be known that we will not fucking stand for it I am attacked for being doom doom doom🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

usonian

(25,325 posts)
12. Merrick's on the case --- as soon as he prosecutes whoever stole bitcoin from a billionaire.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 01:50 PM
Oct 2024

Eliot Rosewater

(34,285 posts)
10. They do it because they do not fear us they do not fear our reaction
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 01:43 PM
Oct 2024

They are betting we will do what we have always done, get angry and carry protest signs. But now Donald Trump will have us shot if we carry protest signs.

Those of us who said we need to now make it known that our response will not be carrying fucking protest or this is going to happen🪧

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
26. My mail carrier (a staunch Democrat) says he would never drop an absentee ballot into a mail box.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 07:21 PM
Oct 2024

I went on Monday and voted early in-person at my city hall. I was given an absentee ballot, had it witnessed twice by poll workers while I was in line, put the ballot into an envelope that had been signed then dropped it into the official ballot box there, easy-peasey, no USPS involved.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,681 posts)
15. Ballots "damaged"?
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 02:09 PM
Oct 2024

Hopefully, there is enough info on the unburnt bits to identify the voters and let them know to get their ballots cancelled and re-issued.

Otherwise, widely publicize the location of the mail box and the time of the fire, so voters can figure out if their ballots are likely destroyed.

I put my ballot in the box outside of city hall, then checked my state's voting site so I know it was received by the clerk. If I had to mail it, I'd use a mail slot inside the post office building, not a box on a street. Same applies to any mail that contains a check. Mail it securely.

usonian

(25,325 posts)
19. Many states have ballot tracking, so people can tell "shortly" if their ballot was damaged.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 03:13 PM
Oct 2024

States should extend dates for getting a replacement ballot.

I go straight to the county clerk's office, but this is a small town. One 4-way stop and no traffic lights.

lindysalsagal

(22,915 posts)
16. Local news should be able to alert people to call about their ballots
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 02:51 PM
Oct 2024

And remedy the situation. I handed mine to the board of elections clerk. Watched her scan and stamp it.

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