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robertpaulsen

(8,697 posts)
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 03:30 PM Oct 2024

He KNOWS he is going to lose. Here's the latest example of why.

Trump Says He Might Pardon Hunter Biden
October 24, 2024 at 2:44 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 105 Comments

“Donald Trump said Thursday he’s open to pardoning Hunter Biden if he’s reelected — a significant reversal after years of lobbing attacks at the legal issues faced by the president’s son as part of his ‘Biden crime family’ talking point,” Politico reports.

Said Trump: “I wouldn’t take it off the books… See, unlike Joe Biden, despite what they’ve done to me, where they’ve gone after me so viciously, despite what, and Hunter’s a bad boy. There’s no question about it. He’s been a bad boy. All you had to do is see the laptop from hell. But I happen to think it’s very bad for our country.”

https://politicalwire.com/2024/10/24/trump-says-he-might-pardon-hunter-biden/


You do not do something like this less than two weeks prior to an election if you think you're going to win. You do it when you're desperate to make some kind of deal, anything, to get out of prison. It's not going to work, of course, but this is yet another example of why I don't think his internal polling resembles the current gumming-up of polling aggregate sites by MAGA pollsters that are giving many here anxiety.

He. Will. Lose! And he knows it.
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He KNOWS he is going to lose. Here's the latest example of why. (Original Post) robertpaulsen Oct 2024 OP
TFG would say anything for a headline Raven123 Oct 2024 #1
Granted, he says anything and everything that pops into his bubble. robertpaulsen Oct 2024 #2
Jesus. Drawing that inference is not supported by amything. NoRethugFriends Oct 2024 #3
It's a campaign 180, which I think is something. robertpaulsen Oct 2024 #10
Your problem is assuming Trump is a typical politician. Self Esteem Oct 2024 #25
He may not THINK he's going to lose. . . . Tansy_Gold Oct 2024 #27
I am not convinced that Trump worries about anything. Self Esteem Oct 2024 #30
He doesn't on a conscious level. Tansy_Gold Oct 2024 #37
He worries that SocialDemocrat61 Oct 2024 #39
What the convicted felon says in hopes to make him win does not mean... Justice matters. Oct 2024 #34
I had the same reaction. He's trying to trade - getting on Biden's good side MaryMagdaline Oct 2024 #4
Perceptive. applegrove Oct 2024 #5
How do you know that they're losing? When they say "Get over it". usonian Oct 2024 #6
So true. robertpaulsen Oct 2024 #8
OMFG, Donald Fucking Trump talking about someone being a BAD BOY Skittles Oct 2024 #7
While we're on the subject of bad boys, long apparati (apparatuses?) and spanking, there are some interesting web sites. usonian Oct 2024 #9
What says "we know we are losing" is the desperation. He's desperate for lines with shock value. lees1975 Oct 2024 #11
Exactly! robertpaulsen Oct 2024 #12
Nailed it! PortTack Oct 2024 #14
He knows his kids are now fair game Envirogal Oct 2024 #13
I don't think he cares...seriously PortTack Oct 2024 #15
Meh. maxsolomon Oct 2024 #16
TICK TOCK MOFO! OMGWTF Oct 2024 #17
and he would not do it for Hunter.... Quanto Magnus Oct 2024 #18
Biden didn't do nothing to his fat ass Dem4life1234 Oct 2024 #19
Anybody believe the Desperate Shithead? Cha Oct 2024 #20
Yeah. Election in America is a machine Roc2020 Oct 2024 #21
President Biden doesn't need any transactional deal from DonOLD. Biden can pardon Hunter when iluvtennis Oct 2024 #22
Daily I see him inching towards begging Biden for a pardon malaise Oct 2024 #23
sure condition a "pardon" on accepting the election results and so on IbogaProject Oct 2024 #29
Did he reverse his opposition to early voting this summer because of things that might come out in October? dameatball Oct 2024 #24
Good point malaise Oct 2024 #28
If election day mayhem is planned the more votes already tallied the better. dameatball Oct 2024 #38
He wants you talking about something else other than his record and the bad stuff.So he said stuff like this to get you Fullduplexxx Oct 2024 #26
Hunter Biden has been kind of an idiot, but he's not committed a tenth of the crimes Trump has. mucholderthandirt Oct 2024 #31
Weak on Crime Trump. . . Emile Oct 2024 #32
No deal loser. Your sorry ass is jail bound. oasis Oct 2024 #33
Why would Hunter need to wait for TSF to give him a pardon. The moment Harris wins the election Hunter has two POTUSs... usaf-vet Oct 2024 #35
In exchange for tfg being the president? FullySupportDems Oct 2024 #36

robertpaulsen

(8,697 posts)
2. Granted, he says anything and everything that pops into his bubble.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 03:36 PM
Oct 2024

But to say something directly contradicting his Vengeance On My Enemies Tour? There's only one reason he would do that: Fear.

robertpaulsen

(8,697 posts)
10. It's a campaign 180, which I think is something.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 04:01 PM
Oct 2024

Why do you think he just pivoted from the "I am your retribution" campaign against the "Biden Crime Family" to "pardon Hunter"?

 

Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
25. Your problem is assuming Trump is a typical politician.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 06:02 PM
Oct 2024

He's not.

I guarantee you Trump does not believe he's going to lose. These little things aren't proof of anything. The dude says a million different things at once ... he literally seems to go with whatever is at the front of his mind the second he's asked a question. There is no thought or strategy behind it.

Trump does not think he will lose this race.

Tansy_Gold

(18,167 posts)
27. He may not THINK he's going to lose. . . .
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 06:12 PM
Oct 2024

. . . . but he strongly fears it. And his fear of losing will overwhelm his thinking he's winning.

I am not a psychologist, but I do believe fear of exposure overrides logic in narcissists.

Tansy_Gold

(18,167 posts)
37. He doesn't on a conscious level.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 06:48 PM
Oct 2024

But he still has a subconscious, and that is where his fears reside.

Justice matters.

(9,266 posts)
34. What the convicted felon says in hopes to make him win does not mean...
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 06:31 PM
Oct 2024

What the convicted felon says in hopes to make him win does not mean he will do it after winning (which he won't).

He *would* just ignore what he said to win since he will ignore the constitution and not relinquish power until the happy day (for us) he'll die.

If he *would* win (which he won't) there *would* not be any other campaign since he *would* rule like a fascist dictator and after he's dead, the presidency *would* be handed to his offspring one after the next (like a royal family).

No checks, no balance, and no more Extreme Court, as he *would* just ignore them whatever they'll rule.

Skittles

(169,191 posts)
7. OMFG, Donald Fucking Trump talking about someone being a BAD BOY
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 03:43 PM
Oct 2024

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

usonian

(23,220 posts)
9. While we're on the subject of bad boys, long apparati (apparatuses?) and spanking, there are some interesting web sites.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 03:54 PM
Oct 2024
THAT FRIENDS TELL ME EXIST.

I can ask them, but I don't have the email addresses for Trumpster and Tucker to send them to.

lees1975

(6,888 posts)
11. What says "we know we are losing" is the desperation. He's desperate for lines with shock value.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 04:09 PM
Oct 2024

He senses no one is paying attention so he gets more sensational. He's buried himself under his own canopy of lies. No one cares.

robertpaulsen

(8,697 posts)
12. Exactly!
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 04:46 PM
Oct 2024

The confidence is all phony. I expect much more desperate crazy words/actions over the next 12 days.

Envirogal

(274 posts)
13. He knows his kids are now fair game
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 05:04 PM
Oct 2024

for prosecution of their criminal behavior now that the GQP has broken the seal on going after the children of a political figure.

Jared’s $2 billion from the Saudi’s was just a purely legit partnership business transaction. “No need to go investigate that since I mentioned a week out from the election that I would be open to pardoning Biden son”.

Everything is so calculated with this cretin.

Amy

maxsolomon

(38,108 posts)
16. Meh.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 05:11 PM
Oct 2024

He just says stuff. No one cares what he says because everyone knows it's meaningless. In fact, his speech destroys meaning.

Roc2020

(1,739 posts)
21. Yeah. Election in America is a machine
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 05:50 PM
Oct 2024

And both parties see the turnout in their respective areas. Of course, only God knows, but I do think Trump believes he will lose. And I really think Harris believes she will win

iluvtennis

(21,444 posts)
22. President Biden doesn't need any transactional deal from DonOLD. Biden can pardon Hunter when
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 05:53 PM
Oct 2024

he leaves office if he so desires.

IbogaProject

(5,546 posts)
29. sure condition a "pardon" on accepting the election results and so on
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 06:15 PM
Oct 2024

And he has to make decisive efforts to end 'stop the steal' BS. Then we will consider a pardon after he either pleads guilty or is judged guilty after a trial. A pardon requires accepting guilt, he hasn't done that ever in his life.

dameatball

(7,649 posts)
24. Did he reverse his opposition to early voting this summer because of things that might come out in October?
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 05:59 PM
Oct 2024

Or am I giving him too much credit?

MARA!!! (Make Alaska Russian Again)

Fullduplexxx

(8,602 posts)
26. He wants you talking about something else other than his record and the bad stuff.So he said stuff like this to get you
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 06:08 PM
Oct 2024

To chase it and talk about it and not his nazireferences ... there's not a chance he'll pardon hunter

mucholderthandirt

(1,742 posts)
31. Hunter Biden has been kind of an idiot, but he's not committed a tenth of the crimes Trump has.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 06:17 PM
Oct 2024

Trump is guilty of far more serious crimes than Hunter Biden could have dreamed of. Some tax idiocy, filing for a gun permit when he shouldn't have. Anyone else would have been slapped on the wrist and told to behave.

Trump, on the other hand, has committed serious crimes, and been convicted of some of them. He's still not in prison, as far as I know still hasn't paid any fines and damages. Appeal, appeal, appeal. His one goal is to get himself out of even more serious trouble.

Maybe seeing Rudy the Ghoul losing his apartment and other things, with more to come, has shaken Trump up. Maybe he's trying to appeal to Joe Biden to be nice. He's such a loon.

usaf-vet

(7,741 posts)
35. Why would Hunter need to wait for TSF to give him a pardon. The moment Harris wins the election Hunter has two POTUSs...
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 06:34 PM
Oct 2024

.... that could grant him a pardon. Biden before Harris is sworn in and Harris after.

I'm no strategist when it comes to national politics, so I'll prove it now by showing you what I and others would love to see. The moment Harris has won the election, Biden should test the power of the immunity that SCOTUS has given the president. As an official act, he should round up all the TSF's henchmen and jail them until TSF admits he lost and surrenders to the legal authorities. That will be sentencing him to prison.

Of course, that won't happen, but watching the insurrectionist one and all squirm would be fun until the legal system works its way.

President Biden would be covered by SCOTUS immunity, and President-Elect Harris would have no official powers until she is sworn in.

Hey a guy can dream!

FullySupportDems

(402 posts)
36. In exchange for tfg being the president?
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 06:42 PM
Oct 2024

I'd be surprised if Hunter would take the pardon. I know Hunter didn't swear an oath to his country or anything, but still. Not that it's a real offer. Hunter ought to tell him to f off right now.

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