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Caption this disturbing image from the Turning Point rally yesterday in Duluth: (Original Post) CoopersDad Oct 2024 OP
The founding fathers warned us BOSSHOG Oct 2024 #1
They don't realize he is sound asleep birdographer Oct 2024 #2
I'm Jewish, so here's one from Exodus Danmel Oct 2024 #3
"Those who do not learn from history, are doomed to repeat it." Even phony Biblical history. eppur_se_muova Oct 2024 #40
Whatever "holy" text you use, there's likely something in it about false gods. cloudbase Oct 2024 #4
ahhh, they're all false NoRethugFriends Oct 2024 #6
Where the hell is smiting! Where is the wrath of god? LakeArenal Oct 2024 #5
Because there is no God. GaYellowDawg Oct 2024 #35
Oh yea...that's right. LakeArenal Oct 2024 #85
There is no God, and the Bible is all stuff taken from other cultures and rewritten. mucholderthandirt Oct 2024 #89
Ugh moose65 Oct 2024 #7
In fact, NameAlreadyTaken Oct 2024 #14
I think that might be an unfair characteration. The RW Christians are the loudest, but there are plenty of Liberal... electric_blue68 Oct 2024 #88
The majority of Christian voters cast their ballots for Trump in 2016 and in 2020. Mariana Oct 2024 #98
This message was self-deleted by its author Pink Hyacinth Oct 2024 #48
Cue the scatalogical humor! Drum Oct 2024 #8
(CROWD:) "Push! Push, harder, Donnie! You can do it!" Kid Berwyn Oct 2024 #90
WE WOULD COMMIT YOU TO THE FLAMES OF HELL (but aren't done with you yet) slumcamper Oct 2024 #9
If we all say a prayer to Satan and touch his body,.... magicarpet Oct 2024 #10
Christian Nationalism must be condemned. pat_k Oct 2024 #11
love this guy! jmbar2 Oct 2024 #26
I think my favorite part is. . . pat_k Oct 2024 #68
He's quite a wit! jmbar2 Oct 2024 #71
+1 dalton99a Oct 2024 #39
Wow. StarryNite Oct 2024 #74
Wow is right. pat_k Oct 2024 #76
I feel the same way. I felt this is what religion should be. StarryNite Oct 2024 #79
religion is not needed to be a good person Skittles Oct 2024 #92
you don't need religion to be a good person Skittles Oct 2024 #91
Of course not. I'm pretty much an atheist. However. . . pat_k Oct 2024 #94
most of the "christians" I know are voting for Trump Skittles Oct 2024 #95
Sounds like the Christians you know are Christian Nationalists. pat_k Oct 2024 #96
if that's what you need to believe, so be it Skittles Oct 2024 #97
Isn't there supposed to be a glowing orb? Think. Again. Oct 2024 #12
Is that some kind of exorcism? NameAlreadyTaken Oct 2024 #13
pray that he loses BlueWaveNeverEnd Oct 2024 #15
Something like that... CoopersDad Oct 2024 #23
prayer doesn't do shit Skittles Oct 2024 #93
Merciful God, for his sake and ours, please take him from this mortal coil wnylib Oct 2024 #16
the day after he loses the election WhiteTara Oct 2024 #61
"Satan, remove yourself from this empty, witless vessel!" royable Oct 2024 #17
Does he need an enema? He's trying really hard to get it out. oregonjen Oct 2024 #18
Praying that he'll move his bowels bedazzled Oct 2024 #44
Potty training intercession intervention TommyT139 Oct 2024 #55
That's embarrassing. Klarkashton Oct 2024 #19
Ben! Bow your fuckin' head! RussBLib Oct 2024 #20
I wonder if they prayed for God's blessing of their deal with devil. surfered Oct 2024 #21
Xtian dominionists JCMach1 Oct 2024 #22
The new Messiah. Trump keeps a straight face while inwardly laughing at them. keithbvadu2 Oct 2024 #24
Correction: ANTICHRIST. B.See Oct 2024 #77
It's either "He needs all the prayers in the world at this point" or Wonder Why Oct 2024 #25
It's going to take a hell of a lot more than laying on hands to make tsf a real person wendyb-NC Oct 2024 #27
"Hold him steady until that kid JD hired can line up his shots" struggle4progress Oct 2024 #28
Scorpions in a jar jmbar2 Oct 2024 #29
I tried, but since it looks like he's pooping I just can't Coexist Oct 2024 #30
So Kish said to Saul, his son "Go and look for our lost jackasses" struggle4progress Oct 2024 #31
I'm an atheist, Island Blue Oct 2024 #32
Christian Nationalism is a cancer on the Christian faith. pat_k Oct 2024 #75
Lucifer and his court. onecaliberal Oct 2024 #33
An ass of orange upon a throne of gold. Kid Berwyn Oct 2024 #34
This laying on of hands BS is soooooo creepy. 3catwoman3 Oct 2024 #36
Dear Lord baby Jesus of Christmas time Johonny Oct 2024 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author eppur_se_muova Oct 2024 #38
Thou shall not worship false gods. iemanja Oct 2024 #41
I would stay away from thunderstorms if I was him Tribetime Oct 2024 #45
Praying for or praying to....... keithbvadu2 Oct 2024 #51
Gross iemanja Oct 2024 #53
Charlatans solemnly celebrate The Last Blubber struggle4progress Oct 2024 #42
My chihuahua is more christian than these fucks spanone Oct 2024 #43
"Heil $hitler" Justice matters. Oct 2024 #46
Maybe the rapture has already happened... and they are still here... with us. keithbvadu2 Oct 2024 #84
Let us pray that Donald shit comes out blessed Tribetime Oct 2024 #47
Now, don't crowd, Brethren and Sisteren..... dobleremolque Oct 2024 #49
All I can think is FemDemERA Oct 2024 #50
Gross chicoescuela Oct 2024 #52
Thought balloons over those nearest to Trump: Emrys Oct 2024 #54
I wonder if these idiots washed their hands after polishing that turd. Dave Bowman Oct 2024 #56
Must touch the Golden (orange) Calf. Sneederbunk Oct 2024 #57
Lord Jesus Just relieve me of this constipation!!!!!!! texasfiddler Oct 2024 #58
My caption canetoad Oct 2024 #59
Need Money? Consider a reverse mortgage on your soul. It may be right for you! dgauss Oct 2024 #60
Fucking Weirdos Beetwasher. Oct 2024 #62
Freaks and fanatics fawning for fascist. hvn_nbr_2 Oct 2024 #63
Sinclair Lewis is rolling over in his grave n/t Lulu KC Oct 2024 #64
He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy lame54 Oct 2024 #65
A "slow-ball" that I can't resist... love the Monty Python reference! Jack Valentino Oct 2024 #69
yes, PRAY for TRUMP to aquire ANY small measure of SANITY!!!!! Jack Valentino Oct 2024 #66
Nobody stick their finger in an electric socket! Music Man Oct 2024 #67
Oh Lord, free this noble man from the curse of constipation! Zambero Oct 2024 #70
"No. Not 'anointment'. I said 'an ointment'." LudwigPastorius Oct 2024 #72
"pssssssssst... Hey black dude, get down here and kiss the boot" William Gustafson Oct 2024 #73
When all else fails, try 'Sycophants!' Sparkly Oct 2024 #78
It turns my stomach. EndlessWire Oct 2024 #80
Jesus hating shits Botany Oct 2024 #81
Sick, evil, delusional fucks !!! SamKnause Oct 2024 #82
Praying to exorcise Arnie's penis from Trump's mind. yellowcanine Oct 2024 #83
Blah, blah, blah, blah hamburders blah, blah blah blah atteral blah blah blah. Prairie_Seagull Oct 2024 #86
Hail, HYDRA!! Kid Berwyn Oct 2024 #87

Danmel

(5,782 posts)
3. I'm Jewish, so here's one from Exodus
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 08:26 PM
Oct 2024

When Moses was away for too long, the Israelites asked Aaron to make them a new god. He took their golden earrings and made a golden calf from them. The golden calf was an idol that the people worshiped instead of the real God.

eppur_se_muova

(41,981 posts)
40. "Those who do not learn from history, are doomed to repeat it." Even phony Biblical history.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 10:42 PM
Oct 2024
?

As reported at the time, the statue was made in Mexico.

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
5. Where the hell is smiting! Where is the wrath of god?
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 08:29 PM
Oct 2024

Last edited Thu Oct 24, 2024, 09:46 PM - Edit history (1)

Why does the sky not open up and lightening bolts reign down?

Edit:

GaYellowDawg

(5,103 posts)
35. Because there is no God.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 10:21 PM
Oct 2024

Or if there is one, he doesn't give a shit, which might as well be the same thing.

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
85. Oh yea...that's right.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 10:23 AM
Oct 2024

And that white Jesus some like seems like the opposite of the Nazareth Guy.

mucholderthandirt

(1,787 posts)
89. There is no God, and the Bible is all stuff taken from other cultures and rewritten.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 12:38 PM
Oct 2024

Case in point: read up about Mithras. Sound familiar?

moose65

(3,454 posts)
7. Ugh
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 08:30 PM
Oct 2024

Pics like this are amazing to me.

I can’t believe how these “religious” leaders are all in for Trump. Trump doesn’t give two shits about Jesus or anything else that Christians are supposed to care about.

If he’s ever really prayed, I’ll eat my dirty socks.

NameAlreadyTaken

(2,302 posts)
14. In fact,
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 08:40 PM
Oct 2024

Most Christians don't give two shits about Jesus or anything else that Christians are supposed to care about.

electric_blue68

(26,899 posts)
88. I think that might be an unfair characteration. The RW Christians are the loudest, but there are plenty of Liberal...
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 12:20 PM
Oct 2024

Christians trying to exemplify Jesus's serom on the mount.
Some great liberal Christian churches here in NYC.

I say this as an ex-Catholic, ex-Christian.

Response to moose65 (Reply #7)

Kid Berwyn

(24,458 posts)
90. (CROWD:) "Push! Push, harder, Donnie! You can do it!"
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 12:48 PM
Oct 2024


“I did a big one! All by my self!”

magicarpet

(18,577 posts)
10. If we all say a prayer to Satan and touch his body,....
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 08:34 PM
Oct 2024

.... his evil powers will rub off on us.

Amen to the Demons.

pat_k

(13,398 posts)
11. Christian Nationalism must be condemned.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 08:35 PM
Oct 2024

We must be clear. Condemning Christian Nationalism is not a condemnation of faith.


. . .
Christian Nationalists are more committed to the love of power than the power of love.

And it exposes a lack of faith because the opposite of faith is not doubt. Doubt is a healthy part of any faith.

The opposite of faith is control. When we stop trusting God, when we stop trusting love, we start taking control for ourselves.

Christian Nationalists want to control what we read, who we marry, where we travel, when we have children. They want to control our minds and our bodies.

"O ye of little faith."
. . .


TX State Rep James Talarico is a riveting speaker on the subject

pat_k

(13,398 posts)
68. I think my favorite part is. . .
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 12:11 AM
Oct 2024
God it not a noun at all.

God is a verb.

God is Not A Being.

God is Being Itself.


God is love.




And, gotta love the top reasons beer is better than religion!

1. When you have beer, you don't knock on people's doors trying to give it away.

2. There are laws against forcing beer on minors who can't think for themselves.

3. No one has ever been burned at the stake because of their favorite brand of beer.

4. You don't have to wait more than two thousand years for a second beer.

5. If you've devoted your life to beer, there are groups to help you.

pat_k

(13,398 posts)
76. Wow is right.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 01:17 AM
Oct 2024

That sermon knocked me out. And is as compelling every time I've replayed it. There is a lot there.

My mom rebelled against the catholic church for many very good reasons. My personal faith to date pretty much begins and ends with "Do onto others as you would have them do unto you." Mr. Talarico actually got me interested in exploring various faiths a little deeper.

I hope to see him on the national political stage in the not too distant future. Or perhaps some network will give the guy his own show.

StarryNite

(12,125 posts)
79. I feel the same way. I felt this is what religion should be.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 01:50 AM
Oct 2024

But the Christian religion and the Biblical characters have been exploited by the Christian Nationalists. I haven't attended church since I was a kid. But I have heard a lot of evangelical preachers because of a family member who is heavy into that stuff. It's nothing like what I remember from Sunday school or church services. The mega churches that use fear tactics is a real turnoff. It's all about hell and damnation. One minute they talk about a merciful god and the next he's an angry god and if you don't believe what their interpretation of the Bible is you're going to hell, dontcha know!

Yup, the Golden Rule kind of sums it up for me too. But this young minister was very refreshing and did pique my interest. I will be listening to it again.

Skittles

(171,835 posts)
91. you don't need religion to be a good person
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:34 PM
Oct 2024

I've always "done unto others" without a church telling me. I'm a good person simply because it's the right thing to do, not because I'm expecting some kind of reward in the end.

pat_k

(13,398 posts)
94. Of course not. I'm pretty much an atheist. However. . .
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 11:21 PM
Oct 2024

. . . I think we need to be very clear in language. I think we need stop referring to Christian Nationalists simply as "Christians" or "Evangelicals." When we don't distinguish we are tarring all Christian faith communities with the Christian Nationalist brush.

Those who claim they are driven by "faith" to pass laws to force others life by a code of morality they take as "gospel" are Christian Nationalists who are in fact pushing an agenda that is completely incompatible with new testament writings.

When we fail to distinguish we alienate Christians who are in fact our natural allies. I've had a number of conversations with Christians -- Christians who are NOT Christian Nationalists -- who think we hate them, when what we hate is Christian Nationalism.

Skittles

(171,835 posts)
95. most of the "christians" I know are voting for Trump
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 11:37 PM
Oct 2024

(red state)

not much difference there

Skittles

(171,835 posts)
97. if that's what you need to believe, so be it
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 11:46 PM
Oct 2024

I call them what they are: HYPOCRITES

CoopersDad

(3,340 posts)
23. Something like that...
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 09:11 PM
Oct 2024

I'm thinking "nothing left to do but pray".

I wasn't able to find the image anywhere but reddit and X, which leads me to speculate that it wasn't meant to be leaked.

wnylib

(26,090 posts)
16. Merciful God, for his sake and ours, please take him from this mortal coil
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 08:47 PM
Oct 2024

and deposit him where you see fit.

WhiteTara

(31,261 posts)
61. the day after he loses the election
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 11:35 PM
Oct 2024

we don't need more drama, we're close to the finish.

royable

(1,426 posts)
17. "Satan, remove yourself from this empty, witless vessel!"
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 08:49 PM
Oct 2024

“and return unto our open welcoming souls!”

Wonder Why

(7,072 posts)
25. It's either "He needs all the prayers in the world at this point" or
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 09:25 PM
Oct 2024

"Let's prey on him. This is our last opportunity."

jmbar2

(8,014 posts)
29. Scorpions in a jar
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 09:35 PM
Oct 2024

They are all praying for tRump to win thinking that they will all gain more power and money.

The problem with non democratic rule is that there are no processes for selecting or replacing rulers. They'll be tearing each other apart in power struggles.

Island Blue

(6,287 posts)
32. I'm an atheist,
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 09:41 PM
Oct 2024

but doesn’t this violate the First Commandment? “Though shalt have no gods before me.”

pat_k

(13,398 posts)
75. Christian Nationalism is a cancer on the Christian faith.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 01:03 AM
Oct 2024

And Atheism isn't actually incompatible with new testament teachings and narratives. As State Rep. James Talarico points out in the sermon below:
God is not a noun.
God is a verb.
God is not A Being.
God is Being Itself.



I highly recommend the whole thing, but if you don't have time, here are some excerpts:

. . .
He told us we would know them by their fruits.

Jesus includes.

Christian Nationalism excludes.

Jesus liberates.

Christian Nationalism controls.

Jesus saves.

Christian Nationalism kills.

Jesus started a universal movement based on mutual love.

Christian Nationalism is a sectarian movement based on mutual hate.

Jesus came to transform the world.

Christian Nationalism is here to maintain the status quo.

They have co-opted the Son of God. They've turned this humble rabbi into a gun-toting, gay-bashing, science-denying, money-loving, fear-mongering fascist.
. . .

If this was truly a Christian nation, we would love all of our LGBTQ neighbors. If this was truly a Christian nation, we would make sure every child in this state and in this country was housed, fed, clothed, educated, and insured.

If this was truly a Christian nation, we would never make it a Christian nation because we know the table of fellowship is open to everybody, including our Buddhist, Hindu, Jewish, Muslim, Sikh, and atheist neighbors.
. . .

The closest thing we have to the kingdom of heaven is a multiracial, multicultural democracy where power is truly shared among all people. Something that's yet to exist in human history.
. . .

When someone asked Jesus to name his most important commandment, he cheats and gives two -- two that he says are related. The first is to love God. The second, he said, "Is like it: love they neighbor as thyself." It's like it because when I recognize the divine image in myself, I can't help but recognize it in my neighbor; whether they're Christian or not, whether they're religious or not. In the Parable of the Good Samaritan, Jesus specifically defines neighbor as some different from us, racially, economically, politically, religiously. God loves diversity; God loves variety. Just look around this beautiful planet of ours.
. . .

God is so much bigger than our human categories. God is not a Presbyterian. God is not a Christian.

God it not a noun at all.

God is a verb.

God is not a being.

God is being itself.

God is love.


And that's why Jesus is against anything that gets in the way of that love between neighbors, including religion.
. . .

That's why he says sinners will get to the kingdom of heaven before religious people do. Sorry to everyone here. I know you came all this way.
. . .

The kingdom of God inverts the power dynamics of "all the kingdoms in the world."

True strength is vulnerability.

True status is equality.

True wealth is sharing.

And we as Christians are called to realize that kingdom "on earth as it is in heaven," not by force, but by faith.

Jesus asked us to have the faith of a mustard seed, trusting that by living and dying for love we give birth to a better world.

That's not easy to do.
. . .

Christian Nationalists are more committed to the love of power than the power of love.

And it exposes a lack of faith because the opposite of faith is not doubt. Doubt is a healthy part of any faith.

The opposite of faith is control. When we stop trusting God, when we stop trusting love, we start taking control for ourselves.

Christian Nationalists want to control what we read, who we marry, where we travel, when we have children. They want to control our minds and our bodies.

"O ye of little faith."
. . .

Kid Berwyn

(24,458 posts)
34. An ass of orange upon a throne of gold.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 10:13 PM
Oct 2024


"Will you look at all those swatches?"



Trump is a moron fixated by fabric swatches

Trump, the billion-dollar loser — I was his ghostwriter and saw it happen


Charles Leerhson
Yahoo.com, May 9, 2019

EXCERPT...

I tend to see my time with him — the first part of it, anyway, before things started going bad in a hurry — as his “King Midas” period. I never said this to him; if I had, he probably would have thought I was suggesting he enter the muffler business. But there was a stretch of months when everything he touched turned into a deal. The banks seemed to accept the version of him depicted in his first book, “The Art of the Deal,” which we now know from his previous ghostwriter, Tony Schwartz, was entirely invented. They believed it over what they saw on his balance sheets or heard coming out of his mouth, and they never said no to his requests for more money. Often they came up with things he could say yes to before he could think of them himself. As a result, a failing real estate developer who had little idea of what he was doing and less interest in doing it once he’d held the all-important press conference wound up owning three New Jersey hotel-casinos, the Plaza Hotel, the Eastern Airlines Shuttle and a 281-foot yacht.

A real go-getter, right? But Trump’s portfolio did not jibe with what I saw each day — which to a surprisingly large extent was him looking at fabric swatches. Indeed, flipping through fabric swatches seemed at times to be his main occupation. Some days he would do it for hours, then take me in what he always called his “French military helicopter” to Atlantic City — where he looked at more fabric swatches or sometimes small samples of wood paneling. It was true that the carpets and drapes at his properties needed to be refreshed frequently, and the seats on the renamed Trump Shuttle required occasional reupholstering. But the main thing about fabric swatches was that they were within his comfort zone — whereas, for example, the management of hotels and airlines clearly wasn’t. One of his aides once told me that every room at the Plaza could be filled at the “rack rate” (list price) every night, and the revenue still wouldn’t cover the monthly payment of the loan he’d taken out to buy the place. In other words, he’d made a ridiculous deal. Neither he nor the banks had done the math beforehand. Or perhaps Trump knew it because someone had told him, but didn’t want to think about it. The one thing he is above-average at is compartmentalization.

Source:

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-the-billiondollar-loser-his-ghostwriter-recalls-the-king-midas-years-090000640.html



No van Gogh for you!

Johonny

(26,212 posts)
37. Dear Lord baby Jesus of Christmas time
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 10:22 PM
Oct 2024

Removeth thy constipated turd from thy holy savior's anus so that he may consume some more of thy nature's bounty from the cornucopia you call McDonalds, which like mana from heaven, tastes like pooh anyways.

Response to CoopersDad (Original post)

dobleremolque

(1,121 posts)
49. Now, don't crowd, Brethren and Sisteren.....
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 10:55 PM
Oct 2024

just scoop up a gob of that sanctified french fry grease what's a-clingin to his garments, and pass it down the line!

Emrys

(9,108 posts)
54. Thought balloons over those nearest to Trump:
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 11:08 PM
Oct 2024

"I don't know how much longer I can hold my breath ..."

Jack Valentino

(5,070 posts)
69. A "slow-ball" that I can't resist... love the Monty Python reference!
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 12:13 AM
Oct 2024



Unfortunately, that particular clip doesn't include the crowd's question to his mother "are you a virgin"
to which she responded something like 'none of your business'
which the crowd interpreted as "YEAH, she IS!" LMAO


(All of that is from Monty Python's parody of the life of Christ,
"Life of Brian"--- just to inform those who may be un-initiated to it)


Jack Valentino

(5,070 posts)
66. yes, PRAY for TRUMP to aquire ANY small measure of SANITY!!!!!
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 12:07 AM
Oct 2024

(Trump is wasting campaign time in Minnesota???
GLAD TO SEE IT!!!!!)

Zambero

(9,992 posts)
70. Oh Lord, free this noble man from the curse of constipation!
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 12:13 AM
Oct 2024

As he sitteth, we humbly beseech thee for him to shitteth.

Sparkly

(24,885 posts)
78. When all else fails, try 'Sycophants!'
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 01:45 AM
Oct 2024

It's the new, easy way to work out whatever is troubling you. You just sit there, looking troubled, or grumpy.

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
80. It turns my stomach.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 02:04 AM
Oct 2024

It's why I don't belong to organized religion. These people may look like mature individuals, but they are not. Trump is a vile pig. He has vowed to destroy most of us, along with our country. He's a wannabe dictator who serves Putin. And yet, they think he's just swell.

I can't believe this stuff is happening. Wishing him into the cornfield works for me.

Botany

(77,394 posts)
81. Jesus hating shits
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 02:05 AM
Oct 2024

Because Jesus said if you believe the Bible not to make a show of it when you pray.

Something like prayer should be done in private and to not to make a show of it. And those
prayers my father will hear.

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