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(44,738 posts)birdographer
(2,937 posts)Danmel
(5,782 posts)When Moses was away for too long, the Israelites asked Aaron to make them a new god. He took their golden earrings and made a golden calf from them. The golden calf was an idol that the people worshiped instead of the real God.
eppur_se_muova
(41,981 posts)
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As reported at the time, the statue was made in Mexico.
cloudbase
(6,275 posts)NoRethugFriends
(3,753 posts)LakeArenal
(29,949 posts)Last edited Thu Oct 24, 2024, 09:46 PM - Edit history (1)
Why does the sky not open up and lightening bolts reign down?
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GaYellowDawg
(5,103 posts)Or if there is one, he doesn't give a shit, which might as well be the same thing.
LakeArenal
(29,949 posts)And that white Jesus some like seems like the opposite of the Nazareth Guy.
mucholderthandirt
(1,787 posts)Case in point: read up about Mithras. Sound familiar?
moose65
(3,454 posts)Pics like this are amazing to me.
I cant believe how these religious leaders are all in for Trump. Trump doesnt give two shits about Jesus or anything else that Christians are supposed to care about.
If hes ever really prayed, Ill eat my dirty socks.
NameAlreadyTaken
(2,302 posts)Most Christians don't give two shits about Jesus or anything else that Christians are supposed to care about.
electric_blue68
(26,899 posts)Christians trying to exemplify Jesus's serom on the mount.
Some great liberal Christian churches here in NYC.
I say this as an ex-Catholic, ex-Christian.
Mariana
(15,626 posts)Response to moose65 (Reply #7)
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Drum
(10,690 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,458 posts)
I did a big one! All by my self!
slumcamper
(1,787 posts)magicarpet
(18,577 posts).... his evil powers will rub off on us.
Amen to the Demons.
pat_k
(13,398 posts)We must be clear. Condemning Christian Nationalism is not a condemnation of faith.
. . .
Christian Nationalists are more committed to the love of power than the power of love.
And it exposes a lack of faith because the opposite of faith is not doubt. Doubt is a healthy part of any faith.
The opposite of faith is control. When we stop trusting God, when we stop trusting love, we start taking control for ourselves.
Christian Nationalists want to control what we read, who we marry, where we travel, when we have children. They want to control our minds and our bodies.
"O ye of little faith."
. . .
TX State Rep James Talarico is a riveting speaker on the subject
jmbar2
(8,014 posts)pat_k
(13,398 posts)God is a verb.
God is Not A Being.
God is Being Itself.
God is love.
And, gotta love the top reasons beer is better than religion!
2. There are laws against forcing beer on minors who can't think for themselves.
3. No one has ever been burned at the stake because of their favorite brand of beer.
4. You don't have to wait more than two thousand years for a second beer.
5. If you've devoted your life to beer, there are groups to help you.
jmbar2
(8,014 posts)pat_k
(13,398 posts)That sermon knocked me out. And is as compelling every time I've replayed it. There is a lot there.
My mom rebelled against the catholic church for many very good reasons. My personal faith to date pretty much begins and ends with "Do onto others as you would have them do unto you." Mr. Talarico actually got me interested in exploring various faiths a little deeper.
I hope to see him on the national political stage in the not too distant future. Or perhaps some network will give the guy his own show.
StarryNite
(12,125 posts)But the Christian religion and the Biblical characters have been exploited by the Christian Nationalists. I haven't attended church since I was a kid. But I have heard a lot of evangelical preachers because of a family member who is heavy into that stuff. It's nothing like what I remember from Sunday school or church services. The mega churches that use fear tactics is a real turnoff. It's all about hell and damnation. One minute they talk about a merciful god and the next he's an angry god and if you don't believe what their interpretation of the Bible is you're going to hell, dontcha know!
Yup, the Golden Rule kind of sums it up for me too. But this young minister was very refreshing and did pique my interest. I will be listening to it again.
Skittles
(171,835 posts)not at ALL
Skittles
(171,835 posts)I've always "done unto others" without a church telling me. I'm a good person simply because it's the right thing to do, not because I'm expecting some kind of reward in the end.
pat_k
(13,398 posts). . . I think we need to be very clear in language. I think we need stop referring to Christian Nationalists simply as "Christians" or "Evangelicals." When we don't distinguish we are tarring all Christian faith communities with the Christian Nationalist brush.
Those who claim they are driven by "faith" to pass laws to force others life by a code of morality they take as "gospel" are Christian Nationalists who are in fact pushing an agenda that is completely incompatible with new testament writings.
When we fail to distinguish we alienate Christians who are in fact our natural allies. I've had a number of conversations with Christians -- Christians who are NOT Christian Nationalists -- who think we hate them, when what we hate is Christian Nationalism.
Skittles
(171,835 posts)(red state)
not much difference there
pat_k
(13,398 posts)Skittles
(171,835 posts)I call them what they are: HYPOCRITES
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)NameAlreadyTaken
(2,302 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(14,319 posts)CoopersDad
(3,340 posts)I'm thinking "nothing left to do but pray".
I wasn't able to find the image anywhere but reddit and X, which leads me to speculate that it wasn't meant to be leaked.
Skittles
(171,835 posts)VOTE so that he loses
wnylib
(26,090 posts)and deposit him where you see fit.
WhiteTara
(31,261 posts)we don't need more drama, we're close to the finish.
royable
(1,426 posts)and return unto our open welcoming souls!
oregonjen
(3,644 posts)bedazzled
(1,885 posts)Keep your distance, fools. Biohazard
TommyT139
(2,363 posts)Klarkashton
(5,324 posts)RussBLib
(10,648 posts)surfered
(13,563 posts)JCMach1
(29,211 posts)Full-blown fascism
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)
B.See
(8,537 posts)And they're his disciples. Blasphemy of the highest order.
Wonder Why
(7,072 posts)"Let's prey on him. This is our last opportunity."
wendyb-NC
(4,697 posts)struggle4progress
(126,249 posts)jmbar2
(8,014 posts)They are all praying for tRump to win thinking that they will all gain more power and money.
The problem with non democratic rule is that there are no processes for selecting or replacing rulers. They'll be tearing each other apart in power struggles.
Coexist
(26,202 posts)struggle4progress
(126,249 posts)Island Blue
(6,287 posts)but doesnt this violate the First Commandment? Though shalt have no gods before me.
pat_k
(13,398 posts)And Atheism isn't actually incompatible with new testament teachings and narratives. As State Rep. James Talarico points out in the sermon below:
God is not a noun.
God is a verb.
God is not A Being.
God is Being Itself.
I highly recommend the whole thing, but if you don't have time, here are some excerpts:
He told us we would know them by their fruits.
Jesus includes.
Christian Nationalism excludes.
Jesus liberates.
Christian Nationalism controls.
Jesus saves.
Christian Nationalism kills.
Jesus started a universal movement based on mutual love.
Christian Nationalism is a sectarian movement based on mutual hate.
Jesus came to transform the world.
Christian Nationalism is here to maintain the status quo.
They have co-opted the Son of God. They've turned this humble rabbi into a gun-toting, gay-bashing, science-denying, money-loving, fear-mongering fascist.
. . .
If this was truly a Christian nation, we would love all of our LGBTQ neighbors. If this was truly a Christian nation, we would make sure every child in this state and in this country was housed, fed, clothed, educated, and insured.
If this was truly a Christian nation, we would never make it a Christian nation because we know the table of fellowship is open to everybody, including our Buddhist, Hindu, Jewish, Muslim, Sikh, and atheist neighbors.
. . .
The closest thing we have to the kingdom of heaven is a multiracial, multicultural democracy where power is truly shared among all people. Something that's yet to exist in human history.
. . .
When someone asked Jesus to name his most important commandment, he cheats and gives two -- two that he says are related. The first is to love God. The second, he said, "Is like it: love they neighbor as thyself." It's like it because when I recognize the divine image in myself, I can't help but recognize it in my neighbor; whether they're Christian or not, whether they're religious or not. In the Parable of the Good Samaritan, Jesus specifically defines neighbor as some different from us, racially, economically, politically, religiously. God loves diversity; God loves variety. Just look around this beautiful planet of ours.
. . .
God is so much bigger than our human categories. God is not a Presbyterian. God is not a Christian.
God it not a noun at all.
God is a verb.
God is not a being.
God is being itself.
God is love.
And that's why Jesus is against anything that gets in the way of that love between neighbors, including religion.
. . .
That's why he says sinners will get to the kingdom of heaven before religious people do. Sorry to everyone here. I know you came all this way.
. . .
The kingdom of God inverts the power dynamics of "all the kingdoms in the world."
True strength is vulnerability.
True status is equality.
True wealth is sharing.
And we as Christians are called to realize that kingdom "on earth as it is in heaven," not by force, but by faith.
Jesus asked us to have the faith of a mustard seed, trusting that by living and dying for love we give birth to a better world.
That's not easy to do.
. . .
Christian Nationalists are more committed to the love of power than the power of love.
And it exposes a lack of faith because the opposite of faith is not doubt. Doubt is a healthy part of any faith.
The opposite of faith is control. When we stop trusting God, when we stop trusting love, we start taking control for ourselves.
Christian Nationalists want to control what we read, who we marry, where we travel, when we have children. They want to control our minds and our bodies.
"O ye of little faith."
. . .
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,458 posts)
"Will you look at all those swatches?"
Trump is a moron fixated by fabric swatches
Trump, the billion-dollar loser I was his ghostwriter and saw it happen
Charles Leerhson
Yahoo.com, May 9, 2019
EXCERPT...
I tend to see my time with him the first part of it, anyway, before things started going bad in a hurry as his King Midas period. I never said this to him; if I had, he probably would have thought I was suggesting he enter the muffler business. But there was a stretch of months when everything he touched turned into a deal. The banks seemed to accept the version of him depicted in his first book, The Art of the Deal, which we now know from his previous ghostwriter, Tony Schwartz, was entirely invented. They believed it over what they saw on his balance sheets or heard coming out of his mouth, and they never said no to his requests for more money. Often they came up with things he could say yes to before he could think of them himself. As a result, a failing real estate developer who had little idea of what he was doing and less interest in doing it once hed held the all-important press conference wound up owning three New Jersey hotel-casinos, the Plaza Hotel, the Eastern Airlines Shuttle and a 281-foot yacht.
A real go-getter, right? But Trumps portfolio did not jibe with what I saw each day which to a surprisingly large extent was him looking at fabric swatches. Indeed, flipping through fabric swatches seemed at times to be his main occupation. Some days he would do it for hours, then take me in what he always called his French military helicopter to Atlantic City where he looked at more fabric swatches or sometimes small samples of wood paneling. It was true that the carpets and drapes at his properties needed to be refreshed frequently, and the seats on the renamed Trump Shuttle required occasional reupholstering. But the main thing about fabric swatches was that they were within his comfort zone whereas, for example, the management of hotels and airlines clearly wasnt. One of his aides once told me that every room at the Plaza could be filled at the rack rate (list price) every night, and the revenue still wouldnt cover the monthly payment of the loan hed taken out to buy the place. In other words, hed made a ridiculous deal. Neither he nor the banks had done the math beforehand. Or perhaps Trump knew it because someone had told him, but didnt want to think about it. The one thing he is above-average at is compartmentalization.
Source:
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-the-billiondollar-loser-his-ghostwriter-recalls-the-king-midas-years-090000640.html
No van Gogh for you!
3catwoman3
(29,453 posts)Johonny
(26,212 posts)Removeth thy constipated turd from thy holy savior's anus so that he may consume some more of thy nature's bounty from the cornucopia you call McDonalds, which like mana from heaven, tastes like pooh anyways.
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iemanja
(57,760 posts)Tribetime
(7,145 posts)keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)
iemanja
(57,760 posts)struggle4progress
(126,249 posts)spanone
(141,678 posts)Justice matters.
(9,816 posts)"Tired of waiting for the Rapture yet?"
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)
Tribetime
(7,145 posts)dobleremolque
(1,121 posts)just scoop up a gob of that sanctified french fry grease what's a-clingin to his garments, and pass it down the line!
FemDemERA
(833 posts)chicoescuela
(3,104 posts)Emrys
(9,108 posts)"I don't know how much longer I can hold my breath ..."
Dave Bowman
(7,185 posts)Sneederbunk
(17,507 posts)texasfiddler
(2,199 posts)canetoad
(20,769 posts)"A collection of hypocritical fakes".
dgauss
(1,547 posts)Beetwasher.
(3,178 posts)I mean, yeesh.
hvn_nbr_2
(6,795 posts)Lulu KC
(8,893 posts)lame54
(39,789 posts)Jack Valentino
(5,070 posts)Unfortunately, that particular clip doesn't include the crowd's question to his mother "are you a virgin"
to which she responded something like 'none of your business'
which the crowd interpreted as "YEAH, she IS!" LMAO
(All of that is from Monty Python's parody of the life of Christ,
"Life of Brian"--- just to inform those who may be un-initiated to it)
Jack Valentino
(5,070 posts)(Trump is wasting campaign time in Minnesota???
GLAD TO SEE IT!!!!!)
Music Man
(1,664 posts)Zambero
(9,992 posts)As he sitteth, we humbly beseech thee for him to shitteth.
LudwigPastorius
(14,765 posts)"He needs 'an ointment'...for his diaper rash."
William Gustafson
(553 posts)Sparkly
(24,885 posts)It's the new, easy way to work out whatever is troubling you. You just sit there, looking troubled, or grumpy.
EndlessWire
(8,103 posts)It's why I don't belong to organized religion. These people may look like mature individuals, but they are not. Trump is a vile pig. He has vowed to destroy most of us, along with our country. He's a wannabe dictator who serves Putin. And yet, they think he's just swell.
I can't believe this stuff is happening. Wishing him into the cornfield works for me.
Botany
(77,394 posts)Because Jesus said if you believe the Bible not to make a show of it when you pray.
Something like prayer should be done in private and to not to make a show of it. And those
prayers my father will hear.
SamKnause
(14,899 posts)yellowcanine
(36,798 posts)Prairie_Seagull
(4,702 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,458 posts)