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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 11:21 AM Dec 2012

‘Thanks for Ruining My Life’

Dec 10, 2012 12:00 AM EST
A teen tweets against her attackers—and upends the courts.



Savannah Dietrich says she was furious when she blasted out a defiant tweet this summer, naming two boys who had sexually assaulted her. “There you go, lock me up. I’m not protecting anyone that made my life a living Hell,” the 16-year-old high-school student wrote.



Her green eyes lined with charcoal, hair swept aside into a loose braid, she recounts the June episode on a crisp fall day in her hometown of Louisville, Kentucky, sitting at a neighborhood coffee shop. Normally, an underage victim of sexual assault would not be named in these ­pages. But Dietrich wanted to go public.

Her ordeal began when two 16-year-old boys stripped off her bra and underwear after she had passed out at a party. The boys took turns pushing their fingers into her vagina, documenting their actions with cellphone photos. When Dietrich pressed charges, the boys pleaded guilty in a deal offered by the prosecutor, but she faced a new and unexpected problem: the judge ordered her not to talk about what had happened to her—an apparent infringement of her right to free speech, according to legal experts and to Dietrich herself.

The court was trying to “gag a victim,” says her mother, Sharon Dietrich, to “hide a crime.”

The teen, already feeling that the boys were getting off easy under their plea agreement, started tweeting. “Everyone thought I was this little girl they could intimidate,” she says, with a slight Kentucky lilt.

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‘Thanks for Ruining My Life’ (Original Post) n2doc Dec 2012 OP
I'm glad Dietrich spoke up for herself. In_The_Wind Dec 2012 #1
The concern for the boys is telling.. sufrommich Dec 2012 #2
It's time to start "Judge and Prosecutor Shaming" Tsiyu Dec 2012 #14
and this is why DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #23
Good on Savannah! RC Dec 2012 #3
How was the judge being PC? Protecting rapists is in no way PC. And no "woe is me" whining? redqueen Dec 2012 #13
You're right about the PC part GaYellowDawg Dec 2012 #20
Being PC is a powerful form of censorship. RC Dec 2012 #22
Good call Xipe Totec Dec 2012 #27
Protecting "children" at any cost however, is very PC. /nt TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #32
K&R for a brave girl who refuses to be slut shamed (and silenced). nt riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #4
Good for her. progressoid Dec 2012 #5
Stay brave, young lady!! 2naSalit Dec 2012 #6
Jails would be full of rethug men if slut-shaming is a crime meow2u3 Dec 2012 #19
WTG and Muahaha to that! freshwest Dec 2012 #25
People generally agree to Gag Orders when they are compensated handsomely for such and are agreeable Horse with no Name Dec 2012 #7
read the comments to this story backtoblue Dec 2012 #8
Jeez, some of those comments make DU look like an anarcho-commie conspiracy by coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #10
K&R Solly Mack Dec 2012 #9
what heaven05 Dec 2012 #11
I think her free speech was abridged bluestateguy Dec 2012 #12
I hope those boys get some help. redqueen Dec 2012 #15
I can attest to that. DevonRex Dec 2012 #24
I would display that kind of courage today, but at 16? lunatica Dec 2012 #16
It also took away her right to sue dsc Dec 2012 #17
Austin and Will's full names and pictures will be on the Intertubes forever snooper2 Dec 2012 #18
So will hers, despite everything. For her, it will go on and on. Hekate Dec 2012 #21
We have to have some perspective here - the Lacrosse team has had a winning season! hedgehog Dec 2012 #26
She is truly a hero union_maid Dec 2012 #28
A brave young woman! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #29
Way to take your power back Ms. Dietrich. Marie Marie Dec 2012 #30
Meanwhile the stories that report on her still are protecting the perpetrator's names InsultComicDog Dec 2012 #31
Here's what the rapists look like. trumad Dec 2012 #33
K&R for Savannah and her awesomeness! closeupready Dec 2012 #34

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
2. The concern for the boys is telling..
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 11:39 AM
Dec 2012

"Dietrich’s team went after both judges and the prosecutor, requesting that all three be disqualified from the case. The prosecutor, they charged, was not objective. Turned out, he had attended the same high school as the boys—Trinity—and remained an active supporter, serving on a reunion committee and in an alumni society, according to court filings. The judges and prosecutor declined to comment for this story, as did Trinity."

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
14. It's time to start "Judge and Prosecutor Shaming"
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 02:13 PM
Dec 2012

I can't click on the link, but I would love to see that judge's name spelled out, as well as the prosecutor's name.

It's time to start shaming ignorant, perverted justice.

The boys and their legal help are all lower than pond scum.

And young women in that judge's district are at a distinct risk of being sexually assaulted, owning to the fact that the judge doesn't appear to give a shit about young women.







DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
23. and this is why
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 06:29 PM
Dec 2012

We should be wary of private schools, because they love to make a little power clique that protects the rich caste from the consequences of their actions. Any surprise an Alumni is here to defend them, and from a Catholic School at that? You know, that Church that has protected child molesters, but threatens Nuns for being too lefty.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
3. Good on Savannah!
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 12:06 PM
Dec 2012

The judge was trying to keep things quiet, being "PC", actually.
Savannah did the right thing by speaking out anyway. No "woe is me" whining here.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
13. How was the judge being PC? Protecting rapists is in no way PC. And no "woe is me" whining?
Reply to RC (Reply #3)
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 01:54 PM
Dec 2012

I guess lucky for you, you just didn't have to hear or see it.

“I was so stressed out, I would just burst into tears at the most normal things.” She knew rumors were escalating. “Some people said, ‘Are you sure you didn’t consent?’” At her lowest point, she says, she thought about suicide.


I'm glad she had people to talk to who didn't call her a whiner.

GaYellowDawg

(4,447 posts)
20. You're right about the PC part
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 03:29 PM
Dec 2012

It's certainly not PC to protect rapists.

However, I think the poster you replied to was actually saying that she did not indulge in "woe is me" whining - e.g., "Savannah did the right thing by speaking out anyway. (There is) No "woe is me" whining here."

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
22. Being PC is a powerful form of censorship.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 05:00 PM
Dec 2012

Oh, yes it is. And the judge issued an injunction to keep the victim quiet. That is why it is PC. Censorship is basically what being PC is all about anyway.
The girl was victimized. - twice. First by the boys and the second time by the judge.
She had to work her way through both the insults to her self-esteem and to her body. She did, and came out the stronger for it.
There will be no repeat of mistakes for this young woman.
Seeing what she went through, she could have stayed curled up in a ball, feeling sorry for herself. She did not. She worked her way through the hurt and found a solution that worked quite well for her.
Give her credit for what she accomplished. It could not have been easy.

How do I have any insight on this? I raised my own two girls, from the ages of 3 and 5 myself. I came home from work, to a note that said my wife was leaving and the kids were at the babysitters. I was Mr. Mom for the next 17 years or so. And did a damn good job too.
My youngest just graduated with an engineering degree (4.0+) and is going to Fort Collins for a post graduate degree, tuition paid by the school she will be attending. You bet I'm proud.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
19. Jails would be full of rethug men if slut-shaming is a crime
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 03:18 PM
Dec 2012

BTA, I have no problem locking up rethug slut-shamers. On top of that, slut-shaming ought to come also with having to register as a sex offender.

BWAHAHAHAH!!!!

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
7. People generally agree to Gag Orders when they are compensated handsomely for such and are agreeable
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 12:37 PM
Dec 2012

to it. It is a travesty that it is done to protect someone other than the victim.

This Judge needs to be sanctioned for this.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
10. Jeez, some of those comments make DU look like an anarcho-commie conspiracy by
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 01:26 PM
Dec 2012

comparison. Really awful what my fellow Americans can sometimes talk themselves into (like 'she deserved it b/c she drank too much' and such-like).

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
11. what
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 01:39 PM
Dec 2012

a society/culture. Nothing civil here. Pseudo-macho society that is basically mean. I hate this place at times. A lot of humans are just mean.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
12. I think her free speech was abridged
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 01:53 PM
Dec 2012

It is not like they were innocent before being proven guilty. They were guilty.

I don't think there should be any confidentiality no matter what the crime is, just because it is juvenile court. So my position would be the same here even if we were talking about two kids who stole a six pack of beer from a drug store.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
15. I hope those boys get some help.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 02:13 PM
Dec 2012

It would be disastrous if instead of learning why what they did is wrong, they turned to groups which insist that drunk women who get raped are only victims of their own "bad judgment".


This is the age range where most rapists start raping. Hopefully these boys will learn from this and never rape again.

McWhorter’s research also indicates that rapists start young. Of the men who did not report an assault pre-enlistment, only 2% reported assaults while in the Navy, but 16% of those who admitted that they raped or attempted to rape between age 14 and enlistment also said they did it again while enlisted. 60% of rapists, however, said their first assault was after they turned 18. This implies that there is a window when rapists start raping, in their late teens.

http://yesmeansyesblog.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/meet-the-predators/

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
24. I can attest to that.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 07:08 PM
Dec 2012

They start young and choose very, very young victims that they can overpower and terrorize one way or another to keep quiet.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
16. I would display that kind of courage today, but at 16?
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 02:20 PM
Dec 2012

I know I would have just lived with shame and never told anyone. Of course times have changed and if I was 16 today, maybe it would be different. I like to think us old feminists helped this girl in our fight for equality and justice.

Savannah is admirable!

dsc

(52,161 posts)
17. It also took away her right to sue
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 02:58 PM
Dec 2012

since she couldn't possibly sue without discussing the crime. She also presumedly would be unable to get treatment either. A simply outrageous order that should be overturned.

Hekate

(90,678 posts)
21. So will hers, despite everything. For her, it will go on and on.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 03:32 PM
Dec 2012

The whole thing is nauseating.

That young woman has guts.

union_maid

(3,502 posts)
28. She is truly a hero
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 10:37 PM
Dec 2012

What she's done makes it riskier for other boys to indulge in that kind of behavior. I hope that, eventually, she can put the trauma behind her and just be proud of herself and of her family. Her mother was no slouch in all this either.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
30. Way to take your power back Ms. Dietrich.
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 11:29 PM
Dec 2012

This woman refuses to play the victim and good for her. These guys are criminals.

InsultComicDog

(1,209 posts)
31. Meanwhile the stories that report on her still are protecting the perpetrator's names
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:31 AM
Dec 2012

WILL FREY and AUSTIN ZEHNDER

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
33. Here's what the rapists look like.
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:05 AM
Dec 2012

Fucking Pigs. If they did this to my beautiful daughter...they'd have to look over their shoulders the rest of their lives.



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