Johnson + McConnell call on VP Harris to stop calling Trump a fascist

[Dennis Donovan]

Steve Benen
In case this isn't obvious:
- Trump has labeled Harris a "fascist" many times, prompting no response from Johnson and McConnell
- It was former members of Trump's own team who took the lead in labeling him a "fascist"
- Are Dems supposed to pretend this isn't a real issue?

Burgess Everett
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Johnson + McConnell release joint statement saying they've been briefed on threats to Trump, call on VP Harris "to take these threats seriously, stop escalating the threat environment"

’"Labeling a political opponent as a ‘fascist,’ risks inviting yet another would-be assassin"

11:43 AM · Oct 25, 2024

He's a goddamned fascist!! What are you supposed to call him, "nazi-curious"?

Link to tweet

Eric Columbus
Funny how Johnson and McConnell had no concerns when Trump called Harris a fascist multiple times in September (per @atrupar videos) and said in May that we live in a "fascist state." ¯_(ツ _/¯

Burgess Everett
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Johnson + McConnell release joint statement saying they've been briefed on threats to Trump, call on VP Harris "to take these threats seriously, stop escalating the threat environment"

’"Labeling a political opponent as a ‘fascist,’ risks inviting yet another would-be assassin"
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11:50 AM · Oct 25, 2024

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[Ocelot II]

1. His own former Chief of Staff says he's a fascist.

Don't like being called a fascist? Don't be a fascist.

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

7. That is probably the best response.

Nothing vulgar or nasty about it, just the straight up truth.

[Magoo48]

88. Exactly.

[CNYHarris]

112. Silencing critcism based on false flags pinned on opponents...

is a tactic of Nazis.

j/s

MAGA has gone full blown Nazi.

Silencing criticism is the final symptom of Nazism. MAGA is 100% Nazi.

Is Trump gonna to hire a Democrat for the next fake victimhood event. Dump is obviously planning another fake victimhood event.

[BComplex]

113. And the fact that for the past 10 years they've been calling Democrats PEDOPHILES and cannibals and

rapists...they don't think that's what lead to school shootings, El Paso Walmart, Las Vegas concert, Grocery stores in New York?

Are they JUST NOW recognizing that saying horrible things about people leads to people with guns going all vigilante?

Are they really that so self-absorbed that they don't see what the words from THEIR side has brought on this nation?

[no_hypocrisy]

2. Hey Mike and Mitch,

what about telling Your Boy to stop calling the Vice President a socialist, communist, AND a fascist.

[bdamomma]

18. that felon

called her stupid, and she was a shit VP. Hmm....his McConnell and Johnson cult congress can eff off!!!!!

[Magoo48]

91. What a couple of numb nuts.

They’ve been following the Orange One around for years kissing his formidable ass every time he bends over. So, fascist see, fascist do.

[madaboutharry]

3. This is their monster.

So they can all go to Hell.

[verargert]

64. there is a place waiting for The Turtle in The Ninth Ring of Hell

[newdeal2]

4. Fuck them

You created and enabled this monster.

[malaise]

5. Fugg that

Dat is all

[lame54]

6. All the assassins are trumpers...

Riled up by Trump

[Freethinker65]

8. So they are not denying Trump is a fascist.

They just don't want anything bad to happen to Trump before he can carry out some of his purge plans, sell some National secrets and public resources, pardon himself/family/friends, then hand what is left to JD Vance and Vance's think tank handlers.

[Docreed2003]

9. JD Vance is out there calling Harris a threat to democracy

Where are the calls for him to "tone it down"? If Trumo doesn't want to be called a fascist, perhaps he shouldn't act so much like a fucking fascist!

[TwilightZone]

10. That's like telling us not to say the sky is blue.

Or water is wet.

[lindysalsagal]

23. Don't Look Up.

[Poiuyt]

11. Sometimes the word is just appropriate.

[ScratchCat]

12. Like I've said before

With Trump in full breakdown mode, they are going to try to ride "Trump The Victim" all the way to the finish line. They'd be hilarious if this weren't so pathetic. What they really mean is "stop pointing out things we can't defend".

[bucolic_frolic]

13. Turtle & Geezus are afraid Dems will sprint down the stretch

and obliterate their beloved GOPee

[Hugin]

14. Okay, then. We'll start calling him a nazi.

It's more accurate anyway.

[gohuskies]

15. Dear Mitch & Mike

Go Eff Yourselves. You are both complicit with the attempted treason upon the nation

[bdamomma]

16. Fuck them

both McConnell and Johnson, I guess they don't like the truth. Oh, they must have some big donor money coming in if that felon steals the election. Such bastards, the truth is hard to take.

[Solly Mack]

17. Hypocrisy is their thing. Much like lying, just part of being a republican.

[musclecar6]

19. Oh yeah

That’s exactly what Kamala should do. Stop calling him a fascist and instead just call him a modern day Adolf Hitler. That way there won’t be any misunderstanding and the voters will know exactly who he is. Of course some of them are so fucking stupid, they wouldn’t even know who Hitler was and that we fought a war over that son of a bitch back in the day.

The good news is if you label him Adolf Hitler, they won’t have to try and figure out what a fascist is because that would be way too far for most of these dumb fucks.

[Raven123]

20. For decades the GOP has called Dems Socialists and Communists

So what’s the problem now? It’s not escalation of the threat environment they are worried about. It’s the fact that they themselves are being exposed as the threat with pinpoint accuracy.

[PortTack]

34. Yeah...what is the problem?

[andym]

21. right-- she should instead call Trump an "Un-American fascist and dictator wannabee"

[lindysalsagal]

22. This indicates the label has reached damaging saturation point. Imagine, someone other than tscf branding people

with labels? Only he's allowed to do that in their reality, earth 2.

This is good news. It means it's working. I was hoping they'd fight back.

[ProfessorGAC]

24. Umm....

...wouldn't it be more appropriate to tell TFG to quit acting like a fascist?

[EarthFirst]

25. Harris is being far too kind with her words; in my opinion...

He’d be the Nazi Fuck if I had the opportunity,

[durablend]

52. Don't forget rapist

[Basso8vb]

26. Cry harder, fascists.

[PA Democrat]

27. Someone should count the number of times Trump has employed extreme rhetoric against Harris, Democrats, the press

and other Americans opposed to him.

I've heard him call people on the above list

Marxist
Communist
Comrade
Fascist
the Enemy Within
Vermin
Socialist

Trump has also directly advocated using violence against and imprisonment of his perceived enemies. He has called for silencing media that dares to do honest reporting.

Johnson and McConnell have done NOTHING to try to reign in their party's candidate even after he invoked a violent insurrection to overturn a free and fair election.

They can go straight to hell.

[Walleye]

54. The attack on Paul Pelosi was an assassination attempt. What rhetoric caused that?

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

74. You voted to find him innocent of the Jan. 6 insurrection, then nominated him

to be your party's standard bearer for this election.

If you didn't want your party's nominee to be labeled as a fascist, maybe you should not have nominated one for president.

[BeyondGeography]

28. Sure, fascist enablers.

[dalton99a]

29. Johnson + McConnell are fascists.

[Baggies]

30. Too many definitions

Ask 10 people on the street to define the word and get 10 different answers. I don’t believe I’ve seen 2 on this site that even match each other. It’s become a word where the meaning is all over the map.

[Tweedy]

37. Retired four star general John Kelly used the

textbook definition of fascism and demonstrated how easily that definition fit Mr. Trump.

Don’t let the gop doublespeak confuse you. Words do still have their meanings.

[Baggies]

116. I question the effectiveness

I am not convinced, nor can I be, that people at this point don’t already know for whom who they are going to vote. Sure there’s some, but the number is so insignificant as to be invisible. Trump is a known entity. Those who aren’t going to vote for him, won’t. Those who are, will. I doubt this will have any effect.

But the campaign has chosen this path. We’ll see where it leads.

[Tweedy]

125. ? John Kelly chose to go public

and VP Harris answered Jake Tapper’s question.

I am not sure to what path you are referring ?

Looks like to me the campaign is stressing Mr. Trump’s instability and general lack of stamina and substance. I think that is a great reminder for anyone who has forgotten that the only thing Mr. Trump’s presidency got for the United States was the most dead from Covid.

Don’t let Mike Johnson and Mitch McConnell’s cosplaying nonsense disturb your day! This campaign is darn near flawless imho. The campaign’s excellence reflects wonderfully well on VP Harris’ judgment, discernment and organizational skills.

Moreover, the Vice President achieved this excellence in less time than any campaign any of us have witnessed. You might say, Kamala Harris managed beautifully in high heels while dancing backwards 😉

Have a less stressful, wonderful Friday

[mwb970]

100. Try this, then.

Lawrence W. Britt: 14 Characteristics of Fascism

Can you find any of these 14 points that does not perfectly describe trump and his army of MAGA morons?

[Raven123]

109. Wow. That is some granular definition - and frighteningly accurate

[The Unmitigated Gall]

31. Well, McConnell can shove Johnson

Up where the sun don’t shine.

[BoRaGard]

32. The G.O.P. war on truth marches onward

No doubt with help from their "non'fascist" russian collaborators.

[PortTack]

33. Always two sets of rules...f..k that! Did they call on Gen Milley or tfg chief of staff to not call him a fascist?

[Tweedy]

35. These men who have bent the knee so hard they can no longer stand

Need to take their argument to Mr. Trump. He is the one whose actions and words caused his own former political appointees to detail how and why Mr. Trump is, in fact, a fascist.

Messieurs McConnell and Johnson might also sit Mr. Trump down and school him about our country. Tell him how we changed, and continue to change, the world for the better.

They will not, though. They are too busy scraping the floor walking backwards treating Mr. Trump like the golden calf.

I guess they missed that the only thing Mr. Trump won while he was our abusive president was the most deaths from Covid.

Missing their spines these sycophants are.

[JohnSJ]

36. She is quoting his Chief of Staff and other credible REPUBLICANS you jackasses. If it walks like a fascist, talks like

a fascist, its a fascist.

[Gore1FL]

38. The better solution is for him not to be a fascist, I would think. nt

[dchill]

39. It is what it is, boys.

It is what it is.

[Wild blueberry]

40. Hey boys, you broke it, you bought it

You've enabled this fascist for years. You own the destruction of your former party (now d.b.a. MAGA Death Cult).
We're not going to let you destroy our country.
Donald is a fascist. You know it.

[milestogo]

41. Well, fuck Johnson and McConnell

Harris knows what she is talking about.

[Mr. Jinx]

42. Johnson and McConnell can cram it.

tRump can say anything he wants, not a peep out of the GOP leadership.

VP Harris speaks up about the threat her opponent poses to the country, the GOP leadership has something to say.

The GOP's cowardice and psychological discomfort like this is why we're in this position right now.

[GoodRaisin]

43. McConnell and Johnson have a fascist agenda

Maybe she needs to add that to her comments too. Their whole party has a fascist agenda.

[Maeve]

44. Truth hurts

[wryter2000]

45. Their hypocrisy is a thing to behold.

n/t

[onecaliberal]

46. Dear Mitch and porn king, take your fascist, child rape supporting ass the fuck out of here.

[eppur_se_muova]

47. Those who defend fascists are as guilty as the fascists they defend. nt

[Martin Eden]

48. Republican leaders should tell Trump to stop BEING A FASCIST

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Better yet, EXPEL ALL FASCISTS from the Republican Party!

Or would that reduce their numbers below the threshold for a quorum when Congress is in session??

[Aviation Pro]

49. Both of you teeny tiny dicks

Can fuck right off.

[NNadir]

50. Next they'll demand we stop calling water "wet."

[Kid Berwyn]

51. Worried about down-ballot, are we?

Traitors.

[Coexist]

53. KnR

[Macrophylla]

55. Write the terrapin

And request that he stops supporting and enabling facists. Request that he get the republican caucus to stop enabling and supporting facists.
Provide him the definition of the word followed by supporting examples.

[Clouds Passing]

56. johnson and McCON can't handle the truth, they are facists too

[LoisB]

57. What do they say to trump when he calls her a Marxist Communist?

[Drummer1]

58. Third time's the charm - happy hunting

[TBF]

59. They are fascists too & I hope she points that out. nt

[Bev54]

60. I think we should all call McConnell and Johnson Fascists, after all if you support one you must be one.

[Grins]

61. Every "would-be assassin" of Trump's has been a Republican.

I wonder why…?

[CNYHarris]

119. Not only that, Trump is lying about it

?feature=shared&t=301

"Just asking questions!"... as the media says

If Trump is lying about the first event, then the whole thing must be suspect as a lie.

The secret service let the assassination happen.

The same secret service that tried to drive away pence from the Capitol so Grassley could send the election decision to the House for Biden to lose. The same Secret Service that deleted their texts to hide their participation in 1/6. The Secret Service are pro-Republican. Didn't Major Biden know the Secret Service hates Democrats. "I am just asking questions"

The shooter's family were on the literal database Trump held.

If the first one was staged, then the second one was likely staged. Then the 2nd dude wrote a letter apologizing for a failed attempt way before the encounter in Florida. In the letter, this Republican operative calls for more violence, which is exactly what Trump wants, to be perceived as the fake victim to silence criticism of MAGA and Trump as "incitement to assassination". The Republicans have the new enemy - the enemy within. And have their new 9/11 - the fake assassinations. And if you criticize the "Dear Leader", you are the domestic terrorist and enemy. This MAGA Trumpism is Nazism. This is what the Nazis did. Trump is a Nazi. MAGA is America's Nazi Party.

[The_Counsel]

62. Whatever, Mike/Mitch. Look up "Fascist" and You'll Find That the Orange Don Fits the Description to a Tee.

...and invoking the assassination angle only shows us their cards. The whole point of shooting at him in the first place was to scare folks off of calling him what he is. They've been tryin to blame anti-Trump rhetoric ever since that stupid day in July. That guy had a clear shot at his fat head and only grazed his ear? I call BS. That was planned.

I said it back when it happened: Years from now we'll get the whole truth. Whether it'll be too late will be up to us.

[Klarkashton]

63. If the shoe fits.

[William Seger]

65. "The futility of pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the Trump GOP..."

...is evidence of a creeping fascism."

From Hypocrisy to Fascism: https://thevimblog.com/2018/08/07/hypocrisy-to-fascism/

...
A feature of fascism is its incoherence and internal inconsistency.

As Stanley points out, fascist campaigns are corrupt to their core and yet run on anti-corruption messaging. They appeal to the dominant group by depicting the group as victims. A fascist speaks for the whole and yet doesn’t care about others, as Albright says. Arendt notices the tension too: a fascist campaign is a non-movement movement. (She also discusses the incoherence of totalitarianism.) “The enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak,” says Umberto Eco in an influential piece. Adorno discusses the different irrationalities in fascism and its propaganda. See also note 1 of “History: a Retro Scenario” in Jean Baudrillard’s Simulacra and Simulation.

The incoherence of fascism has implications for what I am doing here. Understanding fascism requires recognizing the futility of the task—because our notion of understanding, with its reliance on certain logical rules and operations, becomes political under fascism. A coherent picture of fascism is only possible within fascism. From the outside we can only understand that fascism is internally inconsistent. So we must be aware of the self-referential point: the fact that fascism is incoherent has implications for how we go about defining it. It also has implications for how we interact with fascists.

Now how does this relate to hypocrisy?

Hypocrisy is Inconsistency

Hypocrisy is acting in a way that is inconsistent with one’s principles. The Trump era has been an unceasing process of confronting inconsistency and incoherence.

I believe that the GOP has simply discovered that hypocrisy is a great gaslighting tool.

[Hotler]

66. First amendment assholes. Go pound salt.

[iluvtennis]

67. Fk them. GOP needs to manager their candidate and get him to stop saying fascist shit. And when will TSF

stop calling Kamala:

* low IQ
* dumb as a rock
* a communist
* Comrade Kamala
* Border Czar
* etc
* etc

[Jirel]

68. Time for everyone to refer to the GOP as the American Fascist Party.

All rethuglicans, the party, all of them. We should no longer use the term "GOP." We MUST call them what they are, every day, everywhere that people will see it.

[3auld6phart]

69. Fuck

Both of those enabler perverts.

[BattleRow]

70. Well,how about the term Anti-Christ?

Surprisingly,that is what I overheard a few days ago in
a checkout line.

[LymphocyteLover]

71. Goddamn these people are enraging. The worst motherfuckers I've seen in all my years.

[Javaman]

72. Piss.Up.A.Rope.Fascists. nt

[Volaris]

73. Political Speech is the free-est speech of all. They can go fuck themselves if they dont have a decent counter argument.

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(Hint--they don't, because it's hard to argue with the facts), so they think they're whining and their butt-hurt are a sufficient counter.
Again. They can go fuck themselves.

[littlemissmartypants]

75. Classic misogyny on display.

Johnson and McConnell need to sit the f^ck down and shut the f^ck up.

Nobody wants to hear from you woman hating asses, Mitch and Mikey. The days of thinking that you can tell women to sit down and shut up are over.

[greatauntoftriplets]

76. And what about the names TSF calls VP Harris?

[Lovie777]

77. Free speech for me but not for thee......

[GreenWave]

78. If the jackboots fit, wear them!

[maxsolomon]

79. "Autocrat"?

That's probably fine because Americans don't know what it means.

They ALSO don't know what Fascist means.

[catbyte]

80. No, If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a fucking duck. Deal with it.

[MattNC2021]

81. F(orget) You

Interesting how the main concern is stopping Democrats from fighting back

[634-5789]

82. Peepaw is a fascist. Those other MAGAt 2 jackasses are no better IMO.

[3825-87867]

83. If you support a fascist

I'm pretty sure you are one yourself. How about it Mitch and Mike? Are you fascists?

[Wounded Bear]

84. Yeah, get back to me when trump stops his adolescent name-calling...

[Dem4life1970]

85. History will not be kind to McConnell and Johnson

[BootinUp]

86. Worry about your Candidate!

[Gaytano70]

87. LOLZ. No.

Bless yer hearts. You are 2 millimeters away from being nazis your damn selves, M & M!

[onetexan]

89. Oh so now the fascists are offended? The entire party let themselves be subsumed by a dictator-wanabe who says the most

vile things about Americans, uses Hitler language and talks of suspending the constitution for him to consolidate power to go after his detractors.
Too bad chumps, we're calling the fascist for who he is.

[SamKnause]

90. Fuck those two fascists for supporting a fascist candidate for president.

[Evolve Dammit]

92. Un-freaking real. What hollow, stupid men

[DFW]

93. Based on what reasoning, I wonder?

Besides, Republicans don’t consider that a derogatory term anyway. Half of them consider it a compliment, and the other half don’t have the slightest idea what the word means in the first place.

[Dem2theMax]

94. Let's count all the things Trump has done, and is doing, to destroy this country.

I can't count that high.

Not a peep out of Johnson and McConnell for all of the destruction, and death, (Covid,) that Trump has caused.

Saying you want to be a dictator pretty much puts you in fascist territory.

Again, not a peep out of Johnson and McConnell.

Saying you want to eliminate the Constitution. . .

Again, not a peep.

Johnson & McConnell, I cannot say what I'm thinking.

[NameAlreadyTaken]

95. Who are they to tell Harris what to say?

[mwb970]

96. How about if trump stops calling Democrats "radical leftist lunatics"?

Of course, he has repeatedly called Harris a Fascist, as well as a communist and a socialist. He also says that Democrats are "evil".

We'll stop calling him a Fascist when he stops being a Fascist.

[GiqueCee]

97. Please don't call our Nazi-loving authoritarian psychopath...

... a fascist, regardless of how many times he's called you a fascist. It hurts our fee-wings.

Permit me to suggest that you both commit physically impossible acts of penetration upon yourselves. Repeatedly and with vigor, you repulsive worms.

[BadgerMom]

98. Must be working

if they’re coming out against it.

[dsharp88]

99. How about "Cognitively Impaired Dictatorial Menace With Delusions of Godhood"?

That's equally accurate.

[IbogaProject]

101. So they admit T's rhetoric could incite violence ?

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Thanks for admitting that GOP leaders.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

102. That's rich!

Don't they have more constructive things to do, like packing up their offices for moving out after they're voted out Nov. 5?

[CNYHarris]

103. False flag tactics to defend Trump

Fake victimhood is the only thing Dump has to attempt to silence criticism.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3327743

Is Trump going to stage another fake assassination if Trump is continually called a Nazi.

[CNYHarris]

104. MAGA 100% fake victimhood

The Grand Old Party of Crybabies

How Republicans embraced the victimhood mythology they once denounced.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/09/12/republicans-victimhood-mythology-elections-00055908

Democrats expose the fake victimhood of MAGA derived from lies about furries, drag, woke, LGBTQ, immigrants, minorities. Why not expose MAGA on the fake victimhood of the staged Trump fake assassinations. The same liars are lying.

[Klarkashton]

105. Never mind that the manics are magas. Details details.

[Farmer-Rick]

106. Don't do as I do

Just do as I say.

Calling people names works for MAGA. Why does giving them the same energy dangerous now?

Bunch of fools.

[Omnipresent]

107. Can someone please tell me when Moscow Mitch gets back?

Because it seems that he’s always out to lunch.

[spanone]

108. What bullshit.

Fuck them both.

[live love laugh]

110. "Would-be assassin..." Utter bullshit. His "assassins" were Republicans.

They manufactured their own “enemy”.

[LW1977]

111. Well Mitch and Mike, play stupid games, win stupid prizes

Not to mention Mike is a Fascist!

[C_U_L8R]

114. If he oinks like one

What else could he be?

[Cha]

115. SHUT UP you Fucking Fascists, Johnson & McConnell!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

117. Oh STFU you two

[Sogo]

118. Have they ever called on Trump to stop his bullshit lies and his laughing at attacks, like the one

against Paul Pelosi?

[Persondem]

120. Thoughts and Prayers bitches!! nt

[PurgedVoter]

121. Johnson and McConnell are unaware of the Streisand Effect.

Just in case you missed it, Streisand effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

In fifty years time anyone who looks up Fascism is going to see *rump as the poster child. When history examines Johnson and McConnell's contributions, they too are going to be labeled as Fascists. In the future I doubt their entry will be all that big, but they can both be assured that the few references to them will be in association with *rump. In a hundred years time, no one is going to be happy when their genetic information brings up a relation to either Johnson or McConnell. Mary Trump is the only reason her last name might have a hint of redemption behind it.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

122. Both Mitchie and Mikey can SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Tell tRump to stop his name-calling Kamala a "Comminist, Fascist, Marxist, Lazy, Low IQ, and STUPID"

But we know they won't. Labeling tRump FASCIST is appropriate for what he is suggesting.

[Dem4life1234]

123. They need to shut the fuck up

She's lucky she didn't call him a rapist perverted damn near pedo felon.

[Swede]

124. "No"

[Think. Again.]

126. johnson and mcconnell should focus on the work we pay them to do.

[OnDoutside]

127. Sounds like Johnson + McConnell are getting a little desperate.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

128. Moscow Mitch and MAGAt Mullah Mike can crawl back into the sewers from which they came.

[IzzaNuDay]

129. For Moscow Mike and Mitch: F off!

You are both complicit in this emerging fascism. Go the F away.

[BigMin28]

130. Mikey and the Turtle

Can go screw themselves

[kacekwl]

131. Mr. trump and your two ass kissing friends

As Herman Cain said, blame yourself.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

132. Jake Tapper destroys this stupid talking point

Link to tweet

[LetMyPeopleVote]

133. Jake Tapper destroys this stupid talking point

Link to tweet

[Emile]

134. These RW SOB's wrote the book on hypocrisy.

Fascists have no shame.