With the failure of 2 major newspapers to make a presidential

[NewHendoLib]

endorsement, we are now sadly receiving confirmation of what many of us realize. We don't have a free and fair media. We have a media that plays to the whim and wealth of its owners. We have a media of cowardice and fear.

Is anyone here surprised?

[ramedy]

1. Nope.

Not at all.

[NewHendoLib]

69. I think - hope - the "nope" means they are not surprised

[NBachers]

88. I've been noticing a little more intra-member contrariness around here these days.

[Doc Sportello]

100. I was wrong

I deleted it.

[ramedy]

76. I'm sorry.

I didn’t think being in agreement needed an argument.

Sorry.

[JohnSJ]

96. yup

[Doc Sportello]

98. Sorry

I misunderstood. My apologies. I'll delete.

[ouija]

102. Attempted hostile takeover of the country by the wealthy

[dalton99a]

2. More will follow suit

[Magoo48]

32. The MSM is in a death spiral to extinction.

May the grassroots pour forth honest, insightful new alternatives.

[Think. Again.]

40. Yay!!!

[PortTack]

78. So are newspapers...let's keep cancelations coming..show them we, the ppl still hold the power of consumerism

[BlueKota]

125. Was due to renew WP in January. Canceled.

[SouthBayDem]

139. Facebook and Twitter have sadly shown otherwise.

As bad as MSM can be, I sure as frick am not trusting random bloggers or Youtube channels to give good info at scale.

[Gaytano70]

3. I missed it. Which one besides LA Times?

[NewHendoLib]

4. WA Post

[dem4decades]

29. So the WA Post is the Darkness that democracy dies in?

I guess they knew what they were talking about.

[Think. Again.]

42. Well done.

[Initech]

107. 2016 WaPo: Democracy dies in darkness. 2024 WaPo: Literally kills it in broad daylight.

[MadameButterfly]

121. The courageous WaPost that broke the Watergate story

and stood behind Woodward and Bernstein when it was risky to do so. A newspaper that literally single-handedly changed history.
Has now folded. We can already see what would be in store if Trump were to win.

And even with a Kamala victory, we need to consider going forward whether we will support the newspapers that failed us in our moment of need. We will need to be sure to identify and support the newspapers that are standing up right now, the new heros for democracy.

[Otto_Harper]

5. WAPO

[Wuddles440]

7. The Bezos owned Washington Post.

[Gaytano70]

16. What an effin shock! 🙄

NOT

[DENVERPOPS]

91. Bezos

is represented at being the richest person in the world, and the owner of the LA Times is a multi national, multi Billionaire

Both who were rewarded handsomely with humongous tax breaks under Trump's first term, and wishing he gets re-elected so that he can give the top 1% even bigger ones in his second term.

By the Way, the long standing great editor of the L.A. Times quit the next day after the owner refused, for the first time in history to not back a presidential candidate. The LA Times was going to come out in favor of Harris.......I'm guessing there will be countless other News/editorial staff at LAT also resigning their positions........

[Wuddles440]

120. By not endorsing Harris...

they are essentially endorsing Traitor Drumpf and, in the case of the LA Times, he has already mocked Harris for not earning their endorsement.

[doc03]

6. They are scared of Trump's retribution. nt

[Gaytano70]

18. They want Shitler to give them more tax cuts.

[DinahMoeHum]

68. Psss psss psss psss psss Meow meow

[50 Shades Of Blue]

8. I'm not surprised.

[Klarkashton]

9. Remember how Pravda was a big joke at one time?

Here we are.

[DENVERPOPS]

95. And when U.S. Pravda

comes to be, here in America, all the existing Media will cease to operate. The Media owners don't think about that happening......

AND, the Trumphumping voters listened to Trump proclaim "If you vote for me just this one last time, you will never need to vote again"
And they are too stupid to realize what he meant by that statement.......F'ing idiots.............

My wife started using a new term for Republicans, which I love.......SOS.......Stuck On Stupid.......

[Coventina]

10. Cowards. Afraid for themselves if fascism wins. n/t

[Tansy_Gold]

108. The fascism they enabled.

FAFO.

[bdamomma]

138. That's the word right there

"themselves". Thinking about themselves and not about the country or the Constitution. Eff them all.


GO VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to save ourselves.

[no_hypocrisy]

11. Katharine Graham (Wapo) had balls.

Spiro Agnew was rankled by her articles.

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/97/02/09/reviews/graham-agnew.html

[NBachers]

93. I think you meant Spiro, but now, since he's in some kind of dark spirit netherworld, Spirit is appropriate too.

[no_hypocrisy]

101. Fixed it and thanks!

[DeepWinter]

12. I prefer

the media not endorse anyone. My mind has not once ever been changed by a newspaper or magazine endorsement. Stay in your lane, media.

[bucolic_frolic]

14. So Nazi's should have a clear lane?

[DeepWinter]

23. You ok with

plenty of newspapers endorsing candidates you don't like? It's a two way street.

[orthoclad]

30. Ah. Both sides.

[DeepWinter]

37. Oh please

the "bothsiderim'" doesn't remotely fit here. Newspapers do play both sides and support both sides. At least in the US they do. North Korea might be a different story.

[Hekate]

63. You really don't get it

[Quiet Em]

39. I prefer the media not bending to fascism

This is how fascism starts.

[DeepWinter]

50. Not endorsing half of your reader's preferred candidate

and simply not endorsing anyone isn't bending to anything. It's letting people make up their own minds without interference. (Of course, that's just my personal pipe dream.)

[Quiet Em]

54. No. They are doing it out of fear.

This is how fascism starts. This is how it always starts. Look recently at Turkey, at Hungary. People have been warning about this and it's happening right now.

[TBF]

129. Maybe you should do some reading about Nazi Germany -

do you remember Hitler's free press? No, you don't, because it was one of the first changes he made.

[barbtries]

92. and how it thrives. nt

[Trekologer]

123. The endorsement in inconsequental

The owner putting himself into the editorial decisions of the paper (something he promised not to do) is what matters. Now it open all kinds of other questions. What other reporting has Bezos made the Washington Post stop? What stores are they not reporting?

[Ocelot II]

13. The Star-Tribune in MN isn't a national paper but they chickened out, too:

The newly rebranded Minnesota Star Tribune announced in August that it will not offer political endorsements in the upcoming general election. It was not an impromptu decision to pause our long-standing practice. Rather, it is a strategy designed to explore new and creative ways of providing useful analysis to our readers.

Now, as we near the stretch run of the most consequential presidential election in the nation’s recent history — and of a campaign that has had an extraordinary run of developments — here’s what you can expect in the coming weeks.

We will vet the positions and offer policy analysis of the candidates seeking the nation’s two highest offices. We will take note of but forgo staid judgment as to what might qualify as disqualifying campaign behavior. We are confident in the ability of informed citizens to decide whom they wish to vote for based on what they see, hear and research.

https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-star-tribune-endorses-voters-not-candidates-in-upcoming-election/601144760

Basically, they weaseled out of making candidate endorsements by claiming they will "analyze issues."

[Gaytano70]

20. Did a billionaire buy the Strib since 2020?

[Ocelot II]

22. A billionaire named Glen Taylor has owned it since 2014.

He was a GOP state senator during the '80s. He owns the Timberwolves and Lynx basketball teams. Ranked as the richest person in Minnesota, Taylor is listed on the Forbes 400 and his company ranks on Forbes's list of America's largest private companies.

QED.

[Dennis Donovan]

15. I'm surprised. I believed in the free press. It would prevail over its corporate masters.

I guess I watched "All The President's Men" a few too many times. 😢

[maxrandb]

17. This is fascism without even voting for it

My belief is that Vice President Harris will win this election.

My hope is that we then do something about this fascist shit.

It's pretty simple...

Nothing will change! The racism, fascism, misogyny, hatred and white supremacy...NONE OF IT...will change, unless and until we make racism, fascism, misogyny, hatred and white supremacy UNPROFITABLE to the businesses, corporations and individuals that fund and enable it.

[verargert]

48. President Harris will only have to enable what was disabled back in the early 1800s

the support of local media.

Which every repubilican.conservative/facist/asshole bastid will totally fight against.

[harumph]

19. They'll report on low stakes shit all day - but when it comes to $ or bravery,

they'll choose $ everytime.

[usonian]

21. This is not an "ordinary election." It's a choice between democracy and fascism, life and death for countless people.

WaPo and LA Times are waiting for 6 million to die before they take a stand against fascism.

Standing up for democracy is not a guarantee that it will hold. That's why we fight daily for it, but

Appeasing a madman is a SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY of death and destruction.

MADAM President, or MADMAN President.

Wapo wants an "independent space".

Your "independent space" is IN HELL.

They have chosen poorly, by not choosing.

more, including pictures.
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3328098

[BattleRow]

34. Hat tip.. eloquent!

[usonian]

43. Thanks.

A Blue Wave to crush the oligarchs.

Feeding time for the sharks.

[BattleRow]

53. A shark bite of Moby Dickless.

[Cha]

74. Epic Graphic to Show What

Needs to Happen.. TY! Except TSF looks much Worse.

[usonian]

77. No time to edit. Thank "the internet" for the canned artwork.

[johnnyfins]

82. You forgot the boat batteries

[usonian]

131. Ask and I shall deceive

DECISIONS ..... DECISIONS ......

[calimary]

110. I like that! MADAM President, or MADMAN President.

Already voted, and the madman got left behind.

[bdamomma]

140. Madam or Madman?????

I voted for Madam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Keepthesoulalive]

24. Not me

This has been brewing for a long time but they can’t make it any clearer who they support and what the end game is. We have to be vigilant and aware the old guard media is not your daddy. The saying goes democracy dies in darkness, she is being strangled in broad daylight.

[DFW]

25. And then they whine when Democratic Presidents don't have time to give them interviews

I think that as president, I’d be more interested in giving an interview to People Magazine than one of the formerly independent major dailies.

[spooky3]

26. Houston Chronicle endorsed Harris per a tweet. Nt

[Native]

27. Yes, I was surprised. I didn't expect the Washington Post to do this.

[Klarkashton]

28. Trump is using this this as a "win" so there is that.

[GoodRaisin]

31. Nope.

They want their tax cuts and they are scared of retribution anyway if Trump wins.

The media has normalized him all along and brought us to this point. They have failed the American people. They created the monster.

[dem4decades]

33. Isn't this how oligarchs take over? It's like Russia with an orange Putin.

[BootinUp]

35. That's a negatory.

[BadgerMom]

36. I'm not surprised. I want a remedy.

I’m sick to death of hearing about the failure of another bulwark of democracy and bemoaning it. What can be done?

Could Cuban buy a paper or tv station? Could Bezos’ ex buy one? Even those options are faulty. No one, liberal or conservative, should have so much journalistic power. Murdoch is example #1 there.

Is there any way to establish guardrails for large press operations? I understand that the First Amendment is the biggest consideration here. But couldn’t editorial boards be separated from ownership?

[littlemissmartypants]

38. Anticipatory obeisance. eom

[Freethinker65]

41. Not surprised. Look at the owners.

[Kid Berwyn]

44. Control what The People Think and you'll control what The People Do.

It's like magic, information.

The Powell Memo (also known as the Powell Manifesto)

The Powell Memo was first published August 23, 1971

Excerpt...

What Can Be Done About the Public?

Reaching the campus and the secondary schools is vital for the long-term. Reaching the public generally may be more important for the shorter term. The first essential is to establish the staffs of eminent scholars, writers and speakers, who will do the thinking, the analysis, the writing and the speaking. It will also be essential to have staff personnel who are thoroughly familiar with the media, and how most effectively to communicate with the public. Among the more obvious means are the following:

Television

The national television networks should be monitored in the same way that textbooks should be kept under constant surveillance. This applies not merely to so-called educational programs (such as “Selling of the Pentagon”), but to the daily “news analysis” which so often includes the most insidious type of criticism of the enterprise system.12 Whether this criticism results from hostility or economic ignorance, the result is the gradual erosion of confidence in “business” and free enterprise.

This monitoring, to be effective, would require constant examination of the texts of adequate samples of programs. Complaints — to the media and to the Federal Communications Commission — should be made promptly and strongly when programs are unfair or inaccurate.

Equal time should be demanded when appropriate. Effort should be made to see that the forum-type programs (the Today Show, Meet the Press, etc.) afford at least as much opportunity for supporters of the American system to participate as these programs do for those who attack it.
Other Media

Radio and the press are also important, and every available means should be employed to challenge and refute unfair attacks, as well as to present the affirmative case through these media.
The Scholarly Journals

It is especially important for the Chamber’s “faculty of scholars” to publish. One of the keys to the success of the liberal and leftist faculty members has been their passion for “publication” and “lecturing.” A similar passion must exist among the Chamber’s scholars.
Incentives might be devised to induce more “publishing” by independent scholars who do believe in the system.

There should be a fairly steady flow of scholarly articles presented to a broad spectrum of magazines and periodicals — ranging from the popular magazines (Life, Look, Reader’s Digest, etc.) to the more intellectual ones (Atlantic, Harper’s, Saturday Review, New York, etc.)13 and to the various professional journals.

CONTINUED...

http://reclaimdemocracy.org/powell_memo_lewis/

And yet The People take clean information, like water and air, for granted.

Time of Useful Consciousness explains monetized mass propaganda and its impact - now more than a century in action...

Alex Carey said that the people of the US have been subjected to an unparalleled, expensive, 3/4 century long propaganda effort designed to expand corporate rights by undermining democracy and destroying the unions. Carey’s unique view of US history goes back to World War I and ends with the Reagan era.

https://tucradio.org/podcasts/newest-podcasts/alex-carey-corporations-and-propaganda-part-one-of-two/

And Part the 2nd:

https://tucradio.org/podcasts/newest-podcasts/alex-carey-corporations-and-propaganda-part-two-of-two/

Voila! The rich get richer and democracy vanishes down the Memory Hole, as programmed.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

45. Not really - it just verifies what I have suspected.

[GoneOffShore]

46. May I steal this to post on FB?

[NewHendoLib]

49. Sure

[GoneOffShore]

71. Thank you!

[NewHendoLib]

72. .

[Farmer-Rick]

47. I'm Cancelling my Prime

Yup I belong to the cancel culture.

Why should I give money to a man who wants a Nazi dictator?

It's all about money and tax cuts for the filthy-rich. But it's about democracy for us.

[BlueHurricane]

51. Democracy Dies in The Darkness

Not a tag line, apparently, but a promise.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

55. I'm surprised.

Actually stunned.

[CincyDem]

56. As was said by Elie Wiesel...

“We must always take sides.

Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. Sometimes we must interfere. When human lives are endangered, when human dignity is in jeopardy, national borders and sensitivities become irrelevant. Wherever men or women are persecuted because of their race, religion, or political views, that place must—at that moment—become the center of the universe.”

[TygrBright]

57. It's all about the misogyny. n/t

[Ocelot II]

58. Just canceled my digital subscription. Enough!

The comments at the announcement are scathing. They are going to lose a lot of subscribers, which might not really matter to them, but I'll be interested in seeing how their columnists react.

[Kali]

73. me too

this is kind of scary

[dem4decades]

111. If they don't quit, they're on board the Trump train.

[BlueKota]

126. I wonder if we will hear how many people

cancel over this?

[Espoir]

59. Malice

If these newspapers really had a true and righteous reason to want to remain "neutral", the time to make that stance is NOT within 2 weeks' time of a highly contested election. That suggests not "neutrality", but "I have read the tea leaves and I'd like to sit this one out for my own comfort".

[Hekate]

60. ETA: Corrected by several people//Actually, it's not a trifecta

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Katherine Graham must be spinning in her grave.

[Rstrstx]

62. I thought the NYT did an endorsement

[Hekate]

64. I would be glad to be proven wrong

[Rstrstx]

65. A quick Google search brought up this.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/us-news-media-endorsements-for-2024-presidential-race-new-york-post-backs-trump-nyt-calls-harris-the-only-choice-101729863417859.html

The NYPost is endorsing Trump (surprise), the Times is endorsing Harris

[JohnSJ]

97. Yes they did, and it was a major endorsement for VP Harris, and a scathing p warning against trump

[Hekate]

133. Thx. I tried to do a quick search, and apparently misread it

[Ocelot II]

128. The New York Times endorsed Harris several weeks ago.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/30/opinion/editorials/kamala-harris-2024.html

[Hekate]

132. Thx. I tried to do a quick search, and apparently misread it

[pspro]

61. not just the tax cuts

The cowardly newspaper owners right-wingers who couldn't care less about most Americans as long as the obscenely wealthy get even more tax cuts. Honestly how much more money do they need? They and their children could not possibly spend all the money they already have in 100 lifetimes! Look at goofy TSF: handed millions of dollars by his klan pop and he still managed to piss it away. He could've just lived off the interest and been swimming in it but no: he had to use his unfair privilege to lose money and screw up the whole world. I suspect he's not the only accident of birth rich kid who squandered the family funds and still wants an unfair advantage in our tax and legal codes.

People like him (and people who *like* him) also don't want a functioning government telling them what to do with *our* public commons.

So yes, they want their additional tax percentage "off the top." They are also scared of champions like Lina Khan who is not f--king around with these polluters, scofflaws and creeps. The rich douchebags don't want to be answerable to anyone even as they take our futures away. They don't believe in the basic values of democracy and human decency. It's a very specific subset and a few of them bought newspapers, big and small, with this intention: to work the refs.

-- Either that or they're being blackmailed in one way or another. Hey, could be both!

Fortunately, we don't need these newspaper dinosaurs anymore. The world has moved on. We've got other options. Let's support those instead, including DU.

[The Unmitigated Gall]

66. The media "Willie Hortoned" Mike Dukkakis.

It jumped ALL over FAKE whitewater, Vince Foster and Monica Lewinski.

It "swift-boated" John Kerry.

It "scream-gated" Howard Dean.

It Jumped all over the "birther" conspiracy bullshit.

It jumped all over questions of Biden's fitness while ignoring Drumpf's obvious derangement.

The media has been a piece of shit since Ronnie killed the Fairness Doctrine, and somewhere along the line when billionaire parasites were allowed to purchase it. Any success we have will be in spite of the media.

[NewHendoLib]

67. Exactly. Reason we turned TV off 15 yrs ago and I

get my news here at DU.

[KPN]

70. Nope. Especially in this election where one of the candidates

is a far right, fascist authoritarian. The media are cowardly pandering to a would be totalitarian. They are looking out for themselves above all else.

[Kali]

75. honestly? yes a little

not surprised by the bothsiderism or the horserace for ratings, but the WAPO not endorsing? yeah a little shocking. I just canceled my subscription. wasn't as familiar with the LA paper but have had this subscription for years.

[BigDemVoter]

79. I'm not the slightest bit surprised.

[TheProle]

80. 2024 Daily Newspaper Presidential Ensorsements

[TheProle]

85. Anyone know what's up with the Star Tribune?

Endorsed Biden in 2020 and nothing this year? In Walz's home state?

[Ocelot II]

116. As part of their recent "makeover" they decided not to do political endorsements.

Their explanation, which smells of bullshit and cowardice to me, was this:

The newly rebranded Minnesota Star Tribune announced in August that it will not offer political endorsements in the upcoming general election. It was not an impromptu decision to pause our long-standing practice. Rather, it is a strategy designed to explore new and creative ways of providing useful analysis to our readers.

Now, as we near the stretch run of the most consequential presidential election in the nation’s recent history — and of a campaign that has had an extraordinary run of developments — here’s what you can expect in the coming weeks.

We will vet the positions and offer policy analysis of the candidates seeking the nation’s two highest offices. We will take note of but forgo staid judgment as to what might qualify as disqualifying campaign behavior. We are confident in the ability of informed citizens to decide whom they wish to vote for based on what they see, hear and research.

https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-star-tribune-endorses-voters-not-candidates-in-upcoming-election/601144760

Basically, they weaseled out of making candidate endorsements by claiming they will "analyze issues." I guess billionaire Glen Taylor is worried about his taxes.

[TheProle]

117. I was afraid of that.

And with the first home-state candidate on the ticket since Mondale. Shame...

[llmart]

114. Thank you for the list.

Very interesting. Looks like Kamala got all the ones that are important and dumpy got the dregs. That's good news. Did the Detroit Free Press endorse yet? They tend liberal so hopefully they don't falter and decide not to endorse, not that I subscribe to it. I dropped all newspapers when they sensationalized every freakin' detail of President Clinton's dalliances. I remember a huge headline saying "Constitutional Crisis for Clinton".

[Sparkly]

118. Connecticut Post

https://www.ctpost.com/opinion/article/ct-hearst-harris-trump-19860746.php
Hearst Connecticut Media Editorial Board

[Sparkly]

119. Houston Chronicle

https://www.localsyr.com/news/national/houston-chronicle-endorses-harris-ahead-of-rally-as-post-demurs/

[Dem4life1234]

141. Thank you!

Most of the ones that matter support democracy.

[cachukis]

81. To not call out fascism is farcical. It is widespread.

What have we become?

[Brother Buzz]

83. Ted Lieu: The first step towards fascism is when the free press cowers in fear.

Link to tweet

[NotHardly]

84. We have a media owned by foreign nationals and nationless billionaires

[MFM008]

87. I thought

bezos might have nerve. I was wrong. He's a coward.

[barbtries]

89. yes.

i was surprised at the LA Times and I'm surprised, and deeply saddened, by the WP. No longer a subscriber to either.

How are you???

[NewHendoLib]

112. Doing well, my friend. Hope you are too!

[Joinfortmill]

90. They are signaling their own demise.

Alternatives exist.

[3825-87867]

94. So tramp grabbed them by the "paper?"

Proves that if you're an uncouth big ass star they let you do anything you want.
I thought tramp and his cult were all about manhood? Guess that says something about Bezos and Shoing or however he spells his name.
To think they're all vying to be tramp's State newspaper if he wins. And if he loses they know the sheep here will still read and digest their haggis.

[Rebl2]

99. Not at all

[Aaeia]

103. Bezos

One can always boycott Amazon and buy local - the reason Bezos is so rich. (Not a bad trend with Christmas coming)

[Conjuay]

104. I'm confused.

Is this the same press that the repugnantcans have been screeching about being so 'liberal' for the last twenty years or more?

Add another lie to the stack.

[Mary Mac]

105. Cancelled LA Times

[Initech]

106. Having a free press is literally defined in the Constitution.

Can't these assholes see that if Trump becomes America's dictator that he'll end the free press on his first day in office? This is so fucking beyond the pale that I can't even see straight right now.

[ancianita]

109. Owners of major papers of record need to read the Society of Professional Journalists' Code of Ethics

When corporate owners and their interests override journalistic ethics they refuse to inform the public of what secures or endangers their freedoms.

https://www.spj.org/ethicscode.asp

Preamble

Members of the Society of Professional Journalists believe that public enlightenment is the forerunner of justice and the foundation of democracy. Ethical journalism strives to ensure the free exchange of information that is accurate, fair and thorough. An ethical journalist acts with integrity.

The Society declares these four principles as the foundation of ethical journalism and encourages their use in its practice by all people in all media.

[canetoad]

113. K&R

Well said.

[SupportSanity]

115. Rich right wing republicans generally own the media. Not much of a surprise. It's just sad to see it.

[Dave says]

122. No surprise here

I was weaned by Chomsky’s Manufacturing Consent and Necessary Illusions when I was just a freshman pip.

[Buttoneer]

124. Well, we are living in a neo-feudal state/corporate oligarchy. n/t

[SleeplessinSoCal]

127. I fear the lack of regular subscribers laid the groundwork for a hostile takeover.

The L.A. Times was owned by various mega wealthy and made sure that those merely wealthy couldn't buy it because they actually cared about the paper's reputation and people.

If we manage to not become an Oligarchy, we need to address the crisis at the Fourth Estate.

[mn9driver]

130. Nope. Not surprised.

This has been obvious at least since the second gulf war and probably before that.

[OldBaldy1701E]

134. Not one bit. (n/t)

[Jarqui]

135. 90% of US media is controlled by about 6 entities

Their thumb is on the scale for Trump.

The US has no credible media arbiter for democracy

[Ms. Toad]

136. Cowardice - my spouse made a good point -

They trust Harris not to retaliate if they endorse Trump and she wins. They don't trust Trump not to retaliate if they endorse Harris and he wins.

So the only way to avoid retaliation from the oval office is to endorse Trump, or no one. They took the coward's way out.

[Blue for the win]

137. Fighting

I hear Through the Grapevine that the two newspaper owners are starting to date each other. But there's a fight over who is going to be the top.

[Rocknation]

142. TRANSLATION: "We can't endorse Kamala because she's anti-corporatist. But we can't endorse Trump, either,

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because we are in possession of reason to believe that he is going to lose by a margin significant enough to put our business judgement into question."


Rocknation

[Jrsygrl96]

143. No

I just canceled my subscription to The NY Times. I commented exactly why. Feels soooo good!

[malthaussen]

144. The only thing that surprised me was the NYT endorsing Kamala...

... after the weaselly way they've been conducting themselves all year.

-- Mal

[Lulu KC]

148. Same--

and then yesterday NYT put that back on their front page. Full disclosure: Didn't read the article, just the headline. (I know why she needs to be the president, don't need a bunch of blah blah blah.) But I did go to the comments and many commenters were miffed, saying the actual endorsement is written in a slightly, oh, well, Trump's this, and she's not that and she has some challenges with this but she's the best alternative kind of way. Not the clearly she has what she needs to do this job and lead our country. Then I just got irritated again and went back to Spelling Bee. Also, many people did call them on being so bad about her all year.
Comments are sometimes the best, for me, at this point in my life.

[spanone]

145. They are afraid of trmp. That's what dictators do.

He should have been disqualified years ago.

[Dustlawyer]

146. I will say it again:

We have to address the two root causes of most of our problems.

Campaign donations, Super PACs, money is speech, revolving door… Have to go. Get rid of our shadow government.

Propaganda in the media. Who gets all of the campaign money? The MSM does! They fight over viewers to get the ad money so they tell their groups sensational BS to keep the eyeballs glued.

Publicly funded elections and require truth in news as a start for reform. It is the only way to turn this ship around,

[krkaufman]

147. However much smaller ...

... consider also the New York Times editor that scrubbed reporting on Trump's 10-minute penis envy opening at his Latrobe, PA rally.