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SharonAnn

(14,152 posts)
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 09:32 PM Oct 2024

As rare "business woman" I was asked to leave a hotel bar (waiting for my coworkers) in 1970. It was humiliating.

This happened to me. I was in IT and wasn't a lawyer so was not aware of the legal violations.

I was dressed in a business suit, with a briefcase. Arranged to meet my coworkers at the hotel bar. Think it was the Chicago Sheraton. I was asked to leave. Told they didn't allow unescorted women into the bar. Realized they must have thought I was a hooker? Ah well, I waited in the lobby for my coworkers and then we entered and had a drink before dinner. I've never told anyone about this before now. Just too humiliated.

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marble falls

(71,404 posts)
3. Forgot the bad old days. I had to call cabs for "gentlemen" and escort them out of one of the best places in town ...
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 09:44 PM
Oct 2024

... for accosting women I knew weren't interested in that.

Sorry some management did that to you. It was the best of times and the worst of times.

Iris

(16,861 posts)
5. Thank you! I make a point to sit at the bar when I am waiting for someone ever dince
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 09:57 PM
Oct 2024

a dear older friend told me she was told to move to a table when she sat at a bar in Alabama in the 60s. She had just turned the legal drinking age and she also described feeling humiliated.

niyad

(130,652 posts)
11. For many years, I made a point of sitting at the bar, and making friends
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 12:20 AM
Oct 2024

with the bartenders, wherever I was, whether I was travelling on business, or just out with my cameras. Between the book I was always reading, and the bartenders watching out for me, I seldom had a problem. Believe me, I know how very lucky I was not to experience what so many other women did, and still do, sad to say, in such venues.

DiverDave

(5,227 posts)
8. Hell, its happening now.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 12:01 AM
Oct 2024

I talked to a woman truck driver who told me the manager told her she couldn't wait for a shower in the drivers lounge.
Lucky I didn't see it.
There would have been trouble.
I can't remember if she told me where this happened.

NJCher

(42,795 posts)
7. Eight years after that
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:56 PM
Oct 2024

I began traveling in an executive capacity. Another executive woman and I started a national newsletter on the topic of women and travel.

We had some noteworthy women on our subscriber list. Penny Pritzker was one. Tanya

Warpy

(114,515 posts)
10. A lot of humiliation was done back then in the name of protecting us
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 12:17 AM
Oct 2024

I'm guessing the OP wasn't dressed in a microskirt, fishnet stockings and a pink rabbit fur chubby.They chivvied her out because she looked like a decent woman and they knew any woman alone would be hit on by male drunks, and they wanted to preserve the bar's decorum, something that might be disturbed if innocent female patrons felt compelled to slap a predator's face or kick him in the nuts, thereby decreasing his appetite for more alcohol at that particular bar. But it was for her protection, of course it was.

The late 60s ad early 70s are when I became loudly assertive. I have to hope I blazed a trail for later women who were patrons to get treated decently without having to make a scene.

Younger women have no idea just how bad it was and how hard we had to fight to change it, usually by insisting on being treated like human beings.

I remember those days all too well, the woman in the OP would not have been welcome waiting in the lobby or waiting in the dining room, either, even concealed behind a potted plant, waiting for a colleague to appear and deodorize her via his masculine presence.

Floyd R. Turbo

(32,488 posts)
15. The first time I saw anything like you describe was in Vancouver, BC in 1970. A friend and I went to a pub
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 07:51 AM
Oct 2024

which had three entrances; Gentlemen, Ladies, Ladies With Escorts.

MineralMan

(150,905 posts)
16. A common occurrence in the 70s.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 09:20 AM
Oct 2024

It's still amazing that it ever happened, and especially as recently as that.

Old, stupid rules die hard. And the struggle continues. If the Trumpers get more power, they will try to bring back those days. They literally hate women, even though they owe their very lives to women. Maybe that's what bothers them. I don't know.

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