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JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 09:59 AM Oct 2024

New York Mayor Says Trump Should Not Be Called 'Fascist,' Breaking With Harris and Party

"Mayor Eric Adams of New York said on Saturday that former President Donald J. Trump should not be called a “fascist” or compared to Adolf Hitler, a rejection of Democrats’ closing focus in the final days of the 2024 campaign on the eve of Mr. Trump’s rally in Midtown Manhattan.

The embattled mayor, who has been indicted on federal bribery and corruption charges, made the comments at a time when Mr. Trump has been trying to make inroads with Black voters, and especially Black men, in his campaign against Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic nominee.

Ms. Harris has said in recent days that she agrees with Mr. Trump’s former White House chief of staff, Lt. Gen. John F. Kelly, that the former president meets the definition of a fascist. Mr. Kelly also described Mr. Trump as offering praise for Hitler.

Mr. Adams, mayor of America’s largest city and one of the country’s most prominent Black elected officials, was briefing reporters about security plans ahead of Mr. Trump’s rally Sunday at Madison Square Garden when he was asked if he believed the former president was a fascist."

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/26/us/politics/trump-fascist-mayor-adams.html



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New York Mayor Says Trump Should Not Be Called 'Fascist,' Breaking With Harris and Party (Original Post) JohnSJ Oct 2024 OP
Fascist holding Nazi rally at MSG is NOT a fascist! Okay. bucolic_frolic Oct 2024 #1
The guy's a True Dough Oct 2024 #2
Isn't he supposed to be in jail? Think. Again. Oct 2024 #3
Thanks a lot, fuck stick! North Shore Chicago Oct 2024 #4
Agree. Why is he still in office? debm55 Oct 2024 #19
I saw that. H2O Man Oct 2024 #5
How in the hell did that happen? Dem4life1234 Oct 2024 #16
In my opinion, H2O Man Oct 2024 #18
I think the that there were too many candidates in that race that contributed to the problem, and JohnSJ Oct 2024 #23
It was also the first time we in NYC were doing Rank Choice Voting electric_blue68 Oct 2024 #44
I think it was too many candidates and at least some people did not understand the best strategy with ranked choice vote karynnj Oct 2024 #47
Maya was my choice. Sigh. electric_blue68 Oct 2024 #43
Birds of a feather 🪶. NT Tickle Oct 2024 #6
This just in from the No Shit Sherlock Desk! FalloutShelter Oct 2024 #7
This guy is an idiot kevink077 Oct 2024 #8
Indicted Bribery Suspect And Mayor Of New York City Eric Adams . . . hatrack Oct 2024 #9
Maybe he and Trump will SocialDemocrat61 Oct 2024 #10
lol, that guy blogslug Oct 2024 #11
But, evidently, he is just fine with donald calling HER a fascist every day. Ferrets are Cool Oct 2024 #12
They all have each others backs. IcyPeas Oct 2024 #13
Indicted mayor has issues calling a convicted felon names? ColinC Oct 2024 #14
How come when the idiot Dem4life1234 Oct 2024 #15
Eric Adams must not know the details about fascism, then. Kid Berwyn Oct 2024 #17
He's making a desperate pardon play Oldvet Oct 2024 #20
I'm sure that's part of his corrupt intentions La Coliniere Oct 2024 #21
Well, the New York Mayor can kindly f*ck off. Luz Oct 2024 #22
Am I the ONLY ONE who recalls Trump coming out and defending Adams last week? Birds of a Feather.... hlthe2b Oct 2024 #24
No, you're not the only who remembers. tetedur Oct 2024 #31
Good! BlueInPhilly Oct 2024 #25
What a frickin' dope. Scrivener7 Oct 2024 #26
Stupid fool dalton99a Oct 2024 #27
RSO rso Oct 2024 #28
And we should care what he says because? n/t IL Dem Oct 2024 #29
My First Reaction, Too ProfessorGAC Oct 2024 #42
For God's sakes, Adams, WTF are you doing? trump can't save you. You're going to jail. brush Oct 2024 #30
Did accused criminal say why kacekwl Oct 2024 #32
There are differences... Mike Nelson Oct 2024 #33
I really don't like this guy, even if he is a Democrat. lark Oct 2024 #34
Perhaps being INDICTED, Mayor Adams feels some kinship to the DonOLD? ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2024 #35
Birds of a feather, as my grandmother would say. republianmushroom Oct 2024 #36
There are better, more creative ways to go negative on a political opponent. Shermann Oct 2024 #37
Trump is a fascist standingtall Oct 2024 #38
Looks like someone got a pardon promise ThreeNoSeep Oct 2024 #39
Exactly what I was thinking 🤔 demosincebirth Oct 2024 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Wiz Imp Oct 2024 #41
"Indicted for bribery and corruption, mayor decides to support Trump" struggle4progress Oct 2024 #45
If he's not gone by then, I sure hope we NYC'rs will Vote Him out next year! electric_blue68 Oct 2024 #46

North Shore Chicago

(4,243 posts)
4. Thanks a lot, fuck stick!
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:04 AM
Oct 2024

Don't you have more important matters to focus your wayward gaze? Like your own corruption and bribery charges? Hmmm?

H2O Man

(79,051 posts)
5. I saw that.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:04 AM
Oct 2024

And to think NYC could have elected Maya Wiley. Instead they went with this dick-dripping.

H2O Man

(79,051 posts)
18. In my opinion,
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:25 AM
Oct 2024

it was because Maya spoke in a calm, rational manner -- a language not understood by the primary voters. I think she is exactly the type of person that we want in office. I had encouraged her to run.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
23. I think the that there were too many candidates in that race that contributed to the problem, and
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:35 AM
Oct 2024

they split the progressive votes. This isn't the first time that has happened in the country either.



electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
44. It was also the first time we in NYC were doing Rank Choice Voting
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 01:42 PM
Oct 2024

Maya was my first choice

karynnj

(60,968 posts)
47. I think it was too many candidates and at least some people did not understand the best strategy with ranked choice vote
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 02:30 PM
Oct 2024

This was the first time rank choice voting happened. I think some people incorrectly thought that voting JUST for a first choice helped that candidate. If doesn't because the second etc rankings come into play only when they lose.

This link to WikiLeaks, under results, shows the votes in each round. Look at the second to last round vs the final round. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_New_York_City_Democratic_mayoral_primary. The final results is close and if you sum both the final votes and the second to last round, you see that far more than the margin of victory could be due to Wiley ballots that included neither Adams or Garcia.

I don't know enough about Garcia to know whether she was equally unacceptable as Adams for Wiley voters.

That said, before RCV, I think there would have been a runoff between Wiley and Adams.

FalloutShelter

(14,465 posts)
7. This just in from the No Shit Sherlock Desk!
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:05 AM
Oct 2024

Hot bulletin: Eric Adams is an asshat!

How did this guy get elected?

kevink077

(491 posts)
8. This guy is an idiot
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:07 AM
Oct 2024

But I guess criminals stick together. Maybe they can share a prison cell.

Dem4life1234

(2,533 posts)
15. How come when the idiot
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:20 AM
Oct 2024

How come when the idiot was calling folks all sorts of names not one of those tools said a damn thing?

Oh but calling him a fascist is a problem?


That is what he is. These people get on my damn nerves.

One set of rules for one party no rules for the other.

hlthe2b

(113,963 posts)
24. Am I the ONLY ONE who recalls Trump coming out and defending Adams last week? Birds of a Feather....
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:37 AM
Oct 2024

and quid pro quo... Words and Phrases of the Day.

tetedur

(1,418 posts)
31. No, you're not the only who remembers.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 11:24 AM
Oct 2024

If he is convicted, perhaps he thinks Donald will pardon him if he sucks up hard enough.

BlueInPhilly

(971 posts)
25. Good!
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 11:16 AM
Oct 2024

Any acquiescence from this guy is poison pull. The further he is away from VP, the better.

rso

(2,673 posts)
28. RSO
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 11:20 AM
Oct 2024

One criminal defending another, Adams is just hoping for a pardon should Trump win.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
30. For God's sakes, Adams, WTF are you doing? trump can't save you. You're going to jail.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 11:23 AM
Oct 2024

All of trump's generals have said he a fascist and you're going against their statements?

Go to jail then, and do not pass Go or collect $200.

Mike Nelson

(10,943 posts)
33. There are differences...
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 11:31 AM
Oct 2024

... of course, in today's MAGA and yesterday's NAZI. For example, the bigotry is manifested differently... still, I think the comparison and word does apply. I think the Mayor knows this, too, and is really just looking for a new group of supporters.

lark

(26,081 posts)
34. I really don't like this guy, even if he is a Democrat.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 11:34 AM
Oct 2024

Maybe it's just me, but I don't like fraudsters.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,897 posts)
35. Perhaps being INDICTED, Mayor Adams feels some kinship to the DonOLD?
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 11:36 AM
Oct 2024

Another POS if you ask me.

The TRUTH hurts, don't it Eric?

Shermann

(9,062 posts)
37. There are better, more creative ways to go negative on a political opponent.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 11:40 AM
Oct 2024

The trouble with comparisons to Nazis, as apt as they may be, is that this strategy is overused and even has a name (Reductio ad Hitlerum).

So, when people hear this, they can sort of tune it out.

standingtall

(3,148 posts)
38. Trump is a fascist
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 11:44 AM
Oct 2024

and Trump isn't going to be able to do anything to help Eric Adams corruption after November. So he is wasting his breath.

Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
46. If he's not gone by then, I sure hope we NYC'rs will Vote Him out next year!
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 02:00 PM
Oct 2024
NYC Mayoral race is in 2025.
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