Will the racist black and latino jokes make a hill of beans really?

[HagathaCrispy]

I fail to see how this moves anything if the last 9 years haven't. Does anybody have anything to add? White racist surely aren't going to change their vote

[MissB]

1. How close was the margin in Pennsylvania in 2020?

There are apparently hundreds of thousands of people from Puerto Rico living in Pennsylvania.

Only need a few tens of thousands that had been considering voting for Trump to hear the latest insult.

[epreic01]

2. Also

Insulted Latinos. They can help in Nevada and Arizona.

[Quiet Em]

3. He needs Black and Latino men to come out big for him.

He needs a massive amount of men to come out for him to make up the deficit with women.

He's done.

[Gaytano70]

4. Do you really think that Puerto Ricans or the Latino/Latina communities or the black population will just say...

Nah, they're OK. They're just kidding.

The cult meeting was FOR the white supremacists, not to convince the rest of us to vote for Shitler.

Give me a break 🙄

[Tribetime]

14. I guess the singer in Puerto Rico who just endorsed Harris is considered as popular as Taylor Swift there

So yes this is a Big F'en Deal

[Gaytano70]

20. Bad Bunny & Ricky Martin

They not only endorsed Kamala, they reposted the vile crap so their followers see what the nazis think of them.

Shitler is FUCKED.

[Tribetime]

23. Bad Bunny 45.6 million

[spooky3]

30. Jennifer Lopez joined them, too. She has 250 million

Followers.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/bad-bunny-jennifer-lopez-ricky-martin-kamala-harris-puerto-rico-insults-trump-rally-1236046350/

[newdeal2]

5. Yes

Especially if these vile words go viral like they are today. Most people aren’t going to vote for the guy/ party that disdains them.

[Skittles]

39. repukes have been crapping on them for decades

in case they haven't noticed

[Maru Kitteh]

6. Why have you come to spread nihilism.and defeatism? Defeatism can only help Trumpism.

If you are feeling helpless - DO SOMETHING.

[Cha]

9. ExFuckingZactly.. TY!!

[MaryMagdaline]

7. It's already moved Bad Bunny

He’s just the type of celebrity who likes to please all of his fans and not rock the boat. He’s obviously pissed and made a non-business decision out his love for his community, willing to lose money in order to strike back. Others will do the same.

[Tribetime]

16. He's as big as Taylor Swift there

[Gaytano70]

21. "There" is here.

Puerto Rico is part of America, although not a state (yet).

Bad Bunny and Ricky Martin are hugely popular everywhere.

[Tribetime]

24. Yes

[Cha]

8. That's your Opinion. Puerto Rican Bad Bunny just Endorsed Harris.

Link to tweet

[Wiz Imp]

10. Rick Scott clearly is super concerned it's gonna hurt him in his Senate race.

And he wasn't even there. So yeah, as long as it gets spread far and wide (and I think it will), I have no doubt it will have an impact. How big an impact is unclear.

[tavernier]

11. Ricky Martin just endorsed Kamala

He is Puerto Rican. He said “That’s what they think of us.”

[Cha]

15. Oh wow.. TY! Do you have a link?

[tavernier]

18. Earlier on DU

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219616971

[Cha]

19. Mahalo, tavernier! 💙 I just kicked it.

[Skittles]

38. thanking Mr. Martin

great guy

[RockRaven]

12. The margin in 2020 was a few tens of thousands of votes in a few states,

and it is possible that there are that many people who get motivated or demotivated by any particular incident, including this one. So maybe there could be an effect on the outcome. But I think most people are gonna do whatever they were gonna do anyway.

[LexVegas]

13. Unrec. nt

[kcr]

17. Sorry to tell you, but it absolutely will n/t

[TwilightZone]

25. Speaking of comedians...

"if Team Trump was trying to build bridges and gain and keep growing minority support"

That's hilarious, right there.

"what should of been the final blow to the Harris campaign"

This was never going to be anything other than a clusterfuck. Putting three dozen conservative dumbshits on one stage could only end in disaster. The GOP is a party loaded with these buffoons, and this was a perfect encapsulation of how abhorrent it's become.

[GP6971]

35. Interesting. You do realize that your Username

is raising eyebrows, right?

[GP6971]

44. Just remember to give a generous tip to our driver.

[TwilightZone]

36. For anyone who has seen any of Trump's recent rallies, it was right in the ballpark.

The tone and content were the same. The only difference was the warm-up act was a little more overt than people like Rick Scott would prefer, because now he has to do damage control.

The campaign almost certainly had to pre-approve any content, so they knew exactly what they were going to get. Trump probably applauded it and did a little dance.

This is who they are. This is the modern GOP.

[GP6971]

27. Welcome to DU. Interesting Username.

[TwilightZone]

29. Well, it's spot on.

"what should of been the final blow to the Harris campaign"

[GP6971]

31. If that's their intent, they'll have to get in line.

[TwilightZone]

32. That won't be happening.

The poster is upset that Trump and company blew the chance to deliver "what should of been the final blow to the Harris campaign". Seems kind of obvious, no?

[B.See]

33. On the contrary. My theory is

(theory as in, just my opinion) that Trump and his MAGA fascists have become so comfortable, so emboldened in their outright and deliberate expressions of hate, bigotry, and venom, that they don't fear losing their minority supporters no matter what they call them to their faces even.

Hell, if they're still with Trump after all the sht he/they've ALREADY said, why should this be any different?

Again - don't try to apply logic or rationale or reason to Trump's base of support.

IT'S A CULT.

[ShazzieB]

45. You're not wrong about Hinchcliffe.

Letting him lose like that was an asinine move. We know the people running the Trump campaign aren't geniuses, and their candidate isn't it, either, but there's dumb, and then there's massively stupid. That was definitely the latter.

"Don't insult people you want something from (in this case votes)" should be an easy rule to remember, but it's evidently too complicated for some folks.

I'd be surprised, though, if anyone was expecting this event to be "the final blow to the Harris campaign." Well, maybe Trump, but he's nuttier than squirrel poo, so he doesn't count.

[BootinUp]

26. Wouldn't one need to be part of the insulted community

to judge probable reactions?

[OrlandoDem2]

28. As Elie Mystal said, Trump dropped a tape explaining how he assaulted women and was still elected.

That said, I hope this does him in. Drive a dagger thru him!

[Sympthsical]

37. It's an enthusiasm election - and Trump just motivated some people

The election is too close so that anyone can idly piss off entire demographics of people for funsies.

And it was ridiculously stupid, because there's no plausible deniability there. He can't say, "I don't mean you. I mean the bad ones." Nope, it was just a full-on shitball thrown at entire demographics.

Because, as everyone knows, insulting people's pride always works out extremely well.

I am floored by how hubristically stupid this rally was. And to piss off Bad Bunny, who's practically Puerto Rico's Taylor Swift. Lord almighty. What an epic fumble.

Great for us, tho.

[TwilightZone]

40. As I noted in another response, the campaign almost certainly had to pre-approve content.

Which means they knew exactly what they were going to get.

And, yet, no one stopped it. To repeat myself again, Trump probably applauded it and did a little dance.

In 2016, I often said that if I didn't know better, I would have thought they were trying to lose. This is starting to feel just like that.

Maybe Trump really believes he can do or say anything and not lose votes. Maybe it's even true, though this is going to put it to a serious test.

[Sympthsical]

41. There's an art to being edgy

And many comedians can successfully skirt that line where they get away with racial commentary because the humor far outweighs the risk of offense.

Trump's people are probably the types who watch the recent rise of the "anti-woke" comedian and hear the words but not the music. "Ha ha! They're making racist jokes!" No, they're making racial jokes. There is a subtle difference. But they're too stupid to grasp the nuance at all. It's like way back when Dave Chappelle realized people weren't laughing at his show for the reasons he assumed - and he didn't like it.

So dipshit comedian thinks he's being edgy, but instead he's just being a racist asshole.

It would never scan to anyone in Trumpworld. They're not culturally or intellectually aware enough to realize what was coming was not about to be good - or particularly funny.

[TwilightZone]

43. Excellent point.

Fox tried to create a conservative satire show about 15 years ago. It got panned mercilessly by the press, and everyone involved could not grasp the reasons why. I think the pilot is still the lowest-rated TV show ever ranked by MetaCritic, the review-aggregating site.

[pat_k]

60. Forgot all about that! The 1/2 Hour News Hour in 2007

https://www.popmatters.com/1-2-hour-news-hour-joel-surnow-fox-news-failed-foray-into-satire-2500322998.html

...
For example, the pilot episode featured a sketch with Rush Limbaugh as the president and Anne Coulter as his vice president. At one point the commander-in-chief asks if the VP would like to join him in a cigar.

“Isn’t the White House a smoke-free zone?” Coulter asks.

“Not anymore,” Limbaugh replies with his trademark smugness. Cue the laugh track...

However, the bigger problem might have been that Surnow et al misunderstood the function and form of political satire altogether...

To its credit, The ½ Hour News Hour strove for laughs, and some of the jokes were genuinely funny. “Illinois Senator Barack Obama admits that as a teenager he sometimes used cocaine,” says Kurt McNally (Kurt Long), one of the show’s cohosts, in one faux-news bit. “The news sent Obama’s approval rating among Democrats plummeting to an all-time low of 99.9 percent.”...

...successful satire must move beyond laughter alone. It should offer a critique of persons, places, institutions, and/or ideas that pose some threat to society. In a sense, it weaponizes humor in an effort to draw attention to a problem.

This is why historically, satire has been a tool of the powerless and the marginalized. We mock world leaders, governments, and oppressive traditions not only because it’s amusing, but because it’s a way of calling out corruption and incompetence among those who have the most control over our lives.

...satire entails a considerable power imbalance between speaker and target and usually comes from the bottom up. This is why, as Jezebel writer Lindy West points out, at company parties it’s the boss who’s roasted, not the custodian. For people in positions of power to mock their subordinates isn’t funny, it’s tasteless.

[Ellipsis]

46. "Donald Trump's Racist NYC Rally Was Vile. It Was Also Political Suicide"

Donald Trump’s Racist NYC Rally Was Vile. It Was Also Political Suicide... Headline from the Daily Beast says it all.

[TwilightZone]

49. The Daily Beast isn't an unbiased observer.

We all think it should be the end of the campaign, but we're influenced by our perspectives.

It remains to be seen if it will matter. Nothing else has, but this does feel like a different line has been crossed. We'll know pretty soon.

[Ellipsis]

50. Agreed, on they crossed a line. I was just thinking the exact same thing when I read it.

It's a gut feeling.


The next 48 hours will be interesting.

[Cha]

55. TY & I don't care if they're "unbiased" or NOT.. They're Reality BASED.

[Ellipsis]

56. You mean TZ I assume. I edited my response.

[Cha]

57. No, I was thanking you for the headline from The Daily Beast.

[Ellipsis]

58. Well thank you then.

I think it's time to get away from the "light screen"for the day.

Best to you.

[Cha]

59. Best to you, Ellipsis!

[Rainman4u2C]

47. No

It was spoken by a comedian not the dear leader himself.

[Ellipsis]

48. Der Fuhrer you mean, yes? Welcome to DU.

[Quixote1818]

51. No, they screwed up with this one. Nt

[0rganism]

52. Nah, this is gonna make a difference. How much difference? We'll have to wait and see...

I don't think the normalization of TSF's racism has progressed quite as far as the servile coward media like to pretend.

[Silent Type]

53. Agree. If anything it will spur some lazy rubes to vote. But at this point, the racists

have made their pick, and those opposed have stuck with Democrats. Gawd, I hope we are in majority.

[elleng]

54. Yup, will inure to the benefit of V.P. Harris/Walz, and every black, latino, Puerto Rican in and around the U.S.

(IMO!!!)