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VANCOUVER, Wash. KATU was on the scene at Fisher's Landing Transit Center in Vancouver early Monday morning, where heavy smoke was seen coming from inside a dropoff ballot box.
Our photographer captured grey smoke steadily billowing out of the Park and Ride ballot box at Fisher's Landing Transit Center near Southeast 162nd Avenue just after 6 a.m.
Multiple police units were in the area, and the ballot box was cordoned off by police tape as it continued to smoke.
Around 6:30 a.m., KATU captured footage of first responders releasing a pile of actively burning ballots onto the ground, which continued to smolder and smoke heavily even after the flames were put out.
https://www.katu.com/news/local/vancouver-ballot-box-seen-smoking-same-morning-as-portland-ballot-box-arson
Walleye
(43,657 posts)Trueblue1968
(19,051 posts)Walleye
(43,657 posts)Lonestarblue
(13,190 posts)NCDem47
(3,308 posts)This is why we can't have nice things.
kimbutgar
(26,664 posts)Tree Lady
(12,971 posts)said you are on camera.
At least there's theoretically time to identify who might be affected and get them a new ballot. I worry about this kind of thing happening on election day however.
gab13by13
(31,027 posts)and time and Merrick Garland don't do well together.
Wednesdays
(21,534 posts)Yeah, and I think it's a federal offense to break and enter the Capitol Building, too.
You think they're concerned about puny things like laws?
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)gab13by13
(31,027 posts)Get on national TV and spell out the consequences. Do your fucking job.
In your spare time, investigate Leon Musk, Clarence Thomas, and Sam Alito.
stopdiggin
(14,911 posts)I mean - after all, isn't everything?
LuvLoogie
(8,467 posts)then, yeah, it's about Garland.
BlueCheeseAgain
(1,983 posts)And the same people are already blaming Merrick Garland.
Cirsium
(3,297 posts)I don't think anyone is blaming Merrick Garland for anything related to this episode.
stopdiggin
(14,911 posts)I don't know why I would characterize it differently. Or, recognizing the source - any rational reason why anyone should.
Cirsium
(3,297 posts)"Where is the AG?" is a completely appropriate question when federal laws are being broken.
stopdiggin
(14,911 posts)that's exactly what I'm asking! "Where's the AG ?"
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orthoclad
(4,728 posts)Serious question.
Coexist
(26,202 posts)people can validate their vote was received and counted, and if not, get another ballot
MissB
(16,340 posts)I dont even remember how I signed up for that (Im in Oregon), but I get notification when my ballot is sent, when it was received and that it was accepted (so no signature issues).
Im sure the Portland metro media will be all over this. Blue states and all that.
LAS14
(15,452 posts)Any drop boxes should be indoors.
stopdiggin
(14,911 posts)aren't you kind of negating the purpose of the boxes?
I'm more of the opinion that this is just a (smallish) price that we probably need to pay. That and service (empty) the boxes frequently? (like at least daily, maybe several times?)
Wednesdays
(21,534 posts)gab13by13
(31,027 posts)A Brand New World
(1,162 posts)Took no chances on shenanigans!
sinkingfeeling
(57,031 posts)third world country.
bdamomma
(69,130 posts)fair elections until a loser couldn't take a loss. The felon is a loser, and let's tell him that. He's Fired!!!
progressoid
(52,489 posts)RandySF
(80,789 posts)Blue part of the district.
Nevilledog
(54,709 posts)

Cirsium
(3,297 posts)Where is Merrick Garland? A aggressive DOJ response to the ongoing terror treats from MAGA is way overdue. Something along the lines of the way environmental activists or BLM protesters are treated would put an end to this.
MineralMan
(150,503 posts)There's going to be full security for the ballots there.
RANDYWILDMAN
(3,126 posts)they are very conservative and slant bag things away from republicans !!! Every single slam political ad in the northwest quotes KATU as their source.
maxsolomon
(38,108 posts)Quelle surprise.
maxsolomon
(38,108 posts)Preferably INSIDE the Post Office.
Klarkashton
(4,643 posts)Country is my guess.
mymomwasright
(431 posts)Like, right now, today!
Phoenix61
(18,681 posts)Squaredeal
(706 posts)Ours arrived the following day at the County Board of Elections.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)...the certification of Washington's count.
nolabear
(43,847 posts)Something tells me its not Democrats.
FPGramma
(15 posts)Thats why I mailed mine inside the local post office. But it took 5 days before I was notified that my ballot was accepted.
Tree Lady
(12,971 posts)Don't trust the mail have lost to many things last few years and mail taking too long now that it goes through Portland and I am Medford.
Catherine Vincent
(34,596 posts)So how will those burned ballots get counted? 🫤
SoFlaBro
(3,730 posts)stopdiggin
(14,911 posts)(for every drop box?) is obviously NOT.
ekelly
(429 posts)is inside the village hall, only accessible during business hours.
As this is my first time voting by mail/dropoff, instead of in person, I was so relieved to find out that it was not outside.
jmowreader
(52,858 posts)It has both D-heavy and R-heavy areas.
dpibel
(3,754 posts)Vancouver ain't exactly R-heavy.
Let me know when this happens in Lewis County.
Ping Tung
(4,114 posts)a anti-Trump rep and running a real MAGAt, anti-choice, anti-environment, pro-gun, flag waver. He's running against our new Dem again this time.
love_katz
(3,192 posts)I have used ballot drop boxes in the past with no problem. The one closest to where I live is in a branch of the county library and it's very secure.
However, I read about the incident in a blue county in Arizona where the drop box was set on fire, and also that $hitter had posts from people who posted about what kinds of liquids could be poured into drop boxes to destroy the ballots, so I decided to drive to my local post office and drop my ballot into the mail slot in the lobby.
My state has ballot tracking, so I was notified a couple of days ago that my ballot was accepted and counted. Take that, wannabe dictators!!
It tells us everything we might ever want to know about the R's, that cheating, lying, projection, and attacks are all they have.
May we crush them utterly. May they taste nothing but the ashes of defeat
verargert
(142 posts)love_katz
(3,192 posts)I didn't realize that the Portland attack was at the county voter registration office.
Just...wow. R's are the biggest bunch of sore losers on the planet.
FelineOverlord
(3,851 posts)SayItLoud
(1,771 posts)Of course we knew this would be happening...and more to come. Why Biden hasn't used his executive options (and immunity) to protect every drop box with guards seems like a good question. Oh well.
LiberalFighter
(53,544 posts)Who requested ballots.
And can possibly contact those they have not received. The ballot box location should help identify likely ballots impacted.