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RandySF

(80,789 posts)
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 10:33 AM Oct 2024

WA-03: Burning ballots pulled from inside smoking Vancouver ballot box; hundreds of ballots lost

VANCOUVER, Wash. — KATU was on the scene at Fisher's Landing Transit Center in Vancouver early Monday morning, where heavy smoke was seen coming from inside a dropoff ballot box.

Our photographer captured grey smoke steadily billowing out of the Park and Ride ballot box at Fisher's Landing Transit Center near Southeast 162nd Avenue just after 6 a.m.

Multiple police units were in the area, and the ballot box was cordoned off by police tape as it continued to smoke.

Around 6:30 a.m., KATU captured footage of first responders releasing a pile of actively burning ballots onto the ground, which continued to smolder and smoke heavily even after the flames were put out.



https://www.katu.com/news/local/vancouver-ballot-box-seen-smoking-same-morning-as-portland-ballot-box-arson

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WA-03: Burning ballots pulled from inside smoking Vancouver ballot box; hundreds of ballots lost (Original Post) RandySF Oct 2024 OP
Thanks a lot, Donald Walleye Oct 2024 #1
Stupid moron tRumpers. Oregon .... MY STATE and Washington are blue !!! We are dems !!! Trueblue1968 Oct 2024 #44
We are at the point now, where the magas just crave violence for its own sake Walleye Oct 2024 #45
Latest form of Republican cheating. Do we now need 24-hour guards on all ballot boxes because of Republicans? Lonestarblue Oct 2024 #2
Might as well add cameras on mailboxes too (as if). NCDem47 Oct 2024 #6
The ballot box I dropped my ballot off from last week had a big sign saying smile you're on camera! kimbutgar Oct 2024 #24
Same here in Medford OR Tree Lady Oct 2024 #56
Ugh newdeal2 Oct 2024 #3
It's a federal offense gab13by13 Oct 2024 #5
Oh, FFS! "It's a federal offense." Wednesdays Oct 2024 #10
"In the year 2525" orthoclad Oct 2024 #34
Where the fuck is Merrick Garland? gab13by13 Oct 2024 #4
3, 2, 1 - - well, of course we should make this about Garland stopdiggin Oct 2024 #19
Well, if there are not FBI agents on the ground right now LuvLoogie Oct 2024 #31
It happened literally this morning... BlueCheeseAgain Oct 2024 #33
Not really Cirsium Oct 2024 #48
Ummmm? You didn't read up-thread? stopdiggin Oct 2024 #53
Federal law enforcement Cirsium Oct 2024 #47
well, of course! 30 minutes after any bank robbery stopdiggin Oct 2024 #54
Why has Biden let Garland get away with this? orthoclad Oct 2024 #35
I hope a good education campaign is launched in that area to check your vote status (if they do that there) so Coexist Oct 2024 #7
Like Oregon, Washington has a text alert option MissB Oct 2024 #12
As I've said here before, ballot boxes are just an invitation for vandalism. nt LAS14 Oct 2024 #8
Absolutely Rebl2 Oct 2024 #17
if you cut back access/hours stopdiggin Oct 2024 #21
It's all they have left. Cheating and fraud. Wednesdays Oct 2024 #9
Take your ballots to the post office lobby gab13by13 Oct 2024 #11
I took mine inside the Courthouse! A Brand New World Oct 2024 #18
Makes me ashamed to be an American, where we can't hold a fair election. MAGA turning the US into a sinkingfeeling Oct 2024 #13
We had bdamomma Oct 2024 #16
Let me guess....highly Democratic area? progressoid Oct 2024 #14
Bingo RandySF Oct 2024 #15
It's obvious who's doing this Nevilledog Oct 2024 #20
I am going to say it Cirsium Oct 2024 #49
Another Reason I'm Voting on Election Day at My Precinct Polling Place MineralMan Oct 2024 #22
KATUSinclair broadcasting RANDYWILDMAN Oct 2024 #23
Home base of the Proud Boys. maxsolomon Oct 2024 #25
Use the good old USPS. maxsolomon Oct 2024 #26
This is new. They would like this to happen all over the Klarkashton Oct 2024 #27
DOJ should warn people to use indoor drops at post office or city buildings mymomwasright Oct 2024 #28
So happy we have long in person early voting. nt Phoenix61 Oct 2024 #29
We went online to confirm that our ballots arrived. Squaredeal Oct 2024 #30
Now they only need one voter who used that box to challenge... Think. Again. Oct 2024 #32
Portland, OR too. nolabear Oct 2024 #36
Oregon mailed at PO FPGramma Oct 2024 #37
Which is why I went to ballot box Tree Lady Oct 2024 #57
The article says only a few can be saved Catherine Vincent Oct 2024 #38
Why the fuck isn't there 24 hour armed surveillance and guarding of the boxes? Just asking for this fuck shit. SoFlaBro Oct 2024 #39
video seems reasonable. 24 hr armed guard stopdiggin Oct 2024 #55
The ballot drop box in my town ekelly Oct 2024 #40
WA-3 is a serious swing district jmowreader Oct 2024 #41
And this happened in a blue one dpibel Oct 2024 #52
It's my district. In '22 we finally got a new rep (D) thanks to the pubs running off Ping Tung Oct 2024 #58
I dropped my ballot at the indoor mail slot at the post office. love_katz Oct 2024 #42
Damn Republicans ! verargert Oct 2024 #43
Thank you for posting the KATU link. love_katz Oct 2024 #46
Local news reports FelineOverlord Oct 2024 #50
Surprise surprise... SayItLoud Oct 2024 #51
I'm figuring Election Offices are tracking LiberalFighter Oct 2024 #59

Trueblue1968

(19,051 posts)
44. Stupid moron tRumpers. Oregon .... MY STATE and Washington are blue !!! We are dems !!!
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 01:34 PM
Oct 2024

Lonestarblue

(13,190 posts)
2. Latest form of Republican cheating. Do we now need 24-hour guards on all ballot boxes because of Republicans?
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 10:35 AM
Oct 2024

NCDem47

(3,308 posts)
6. Might as well add cameras on mailboxes too (as if).
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 10:41 AM
Oct 2024

This is why we can't have nice things.

kimbutgar

(26,664 posts)
24. The ballot box I dropped my ballot off from last week had a big sign saying smile you're on camera!
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 11:41 AM
Oct 2024

newdeal2

(4,687 posts)
3. Ugh
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 10:35 AM
Oct 2024

At least there's theoretically time to identify who might be affected and get them a new ballot. I worry about this kind of thing happening on election day however.

Wednesdays

(21,534 posts)
10. Oh, FFS! "It's a federal offense."
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 10:45 AM
Oct 2024

Yeah, and I think it's a federal offense to break and enter the Capitol Building, too.

You think they're concerned about puny things like laws?

gab13by13

(31,027 posts)
4. Where the fuck is Merrick Garland?
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 10:40 AM
Oct 2024

Get on national TV and spell out the consequences. Do your fucking job.

In your spare time, investigate Leon Musk, Clarence Thomas, and Sam Alito.

stopdiggin

(14,911 posts)
19. 3, 2, 1 - - well, of course we should make this about Garland
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 11:05 AM
Oct 2024

I mean - after all, isn't everything?

LuvLoogie

(8,467 posts)
31. Well, if there are not FBI agents on the ground right now
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 11:54 AM
Oct 2024

then, yeah, it's about Garland.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,983 posts)
33. It happened literally this morning...
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 12:09 PM
Oct 2024

And the same people are already blaming Merrick Garland.

Cirsium

(3,297 posts)
48. Not really
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 02:03 PM
Oct 2024

I don't think anyone is blaming Merrick Garland for anything related to this episode.

stopdiggin

(14,911 posts)
53. Ummmm? You didn't read up-thread?
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 06:51 PM
Oct 2024

I don't know why I would characterize it differently. Or, recognizing the source - any rational reason why anyone should.

Cirsium

(3,297 posts)
47. Federal law enforcement
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 02:01 PM
Oct 2024

"Where is the AG?" is a completely appropriate question when federal laws are being broken.

stopdiggin

(14,911 posts)
54. well, of course! 30 minutes after any bank robbery
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 06:58 PM
Oct 2024

that's exactly what I'm asking! "Where's the AG ?"

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Coexist

(26,202 posts)
7. I hope a good education campaign is launched in that area to check your vote status (if they do that there) so
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 10:41 AM
Oct 2024

people can validate their vote was received and counted, and if not, get another ballot

MissB

(16,340 posts)
12. Like Oregon, Washington has a text alert option
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 10:47 AM
Oct 2024

I don’t even remember how I signed up for that (I’m in Oregon), but I get notification when my ballot is sent, when it was received and that it was accepted (so no signature issues).

I’m sure the Portland metro media will be all over this. Blue states and all that.

stopdiggin

(14,911 posts)
21. if you cut back access/hours
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 11:11 AM
Oct 2024

aren't you kind of negating the purpose of the boxes?
I'm more of the opinion that this is just a (smallish) price that we probably need to pay. That and service (empty) the boxes frequently? (like at least daily, maybe several times?)

sinkingfeeling

(57,031 posts)
13. Makes me ashamed to be an American, where we can't hold a fair election. MAGA turning the US into a
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 10:52 AM
Oct 2024

third world country.

bdamomma

(69,130 posts)
16. We had
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 10:59 AM
Oct 2024

fair elections until a loser couldn't take a loss. The felon is a loser, and let's tell him that. He's Fired!!!

Cirsium

(3,297 posts)
49. I am going to say it
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 02:07 PM
Oct 2024

Where is Merrick Garland? A aggressive DOJ response to the ongoing terror treats from MAGA is way overdue. Something along the lines of the way environmental activists or BLM protesters are treated would put an end to this.

MineralMan

(150,503 posts)
22. Another Reason I'm Voting on Election Day at My Precinct Polling Place
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 11:12 AM
Oct 2024

There's going to be full security for the ballots there.

RANDYWILDMAN

(3,126 posts)
23. KATUSinclair broadcasting
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 11:16 AM
Oct 2024

they are very conservative and slant bag things away from republicans !!! Every single slam political ad in the northwest quotes KATU as their source.

mymomwasright

(431 posts)
28. DOJ should warn people to use indoor drops at post office or city buildings
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 11:52 AM
Oct 2024

Like, right now, today!

Squaredeal

(706 posts)
30. We went online to confirm that our ballots arrived.
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 11:53 AM
Oct 2024

Ours arrived the following day at the County Board of Elections.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
32. Now they only need one voter who used that box to challenge...
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 12:01 PM
Oct 2024

...the certification of Washington's count.

FPGramma

(15 posts)
37. Oregon mailed at PO
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 01:16 PM
Oct 2024

That’s why I mailed mine inside the local post office. But it took 5 days before I was notified that my ballot was accepted.

Tree Lady

(12,971 posts)
57. Which is why I went to ballot box
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 07:15 PM
Oct 2024

Don't trust the mail have lost to many things last few years and mail taking too long now that it goes through Portland and I am Medford.

SoFlaBro

(3,730 posts)
39. Why the fuck isn't there 24 hour armed surveillance and guarding of the boxes? Just asking for this fuck shit.
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 01:21 PM
Oct 2024

ekelly

(429 posts)
40. The ballot drop box in my town
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 01:25 PM
Oct 2024

is inside the village hall, only accessible during business hours.
As this is my first time voting by mail/dropoff, instead of in person, I was so relieved to find out that it was not outside.

dpibel

(3,754 posts)
52. And this happened in a blue one
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 05:04 PM
Oct 2024

Vancouver ain't exactly R-heavy.

Let me know when this happens in Lewis County.

Ping Tung

(4,114 posts)
58. It's my district. In '22 we finally got a new rep (D) thanks to the pubs running off
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 07:23 PM
Oct 2024

a anti-Trump rep and running a real MAGAt, anti-choice, anti-environment, pro-gun, flag waver. He's running against our new Dem again this time.

love_katz

(3,192 posts)
42. I dropped my ballot at the indoor mail slot at the post office.
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 01:27 PM
Oct 2024

I have used ballot drop boxes in the past with no problem. The one closest to where I live is in a branch of the county library and it's very secure.

However, I read about the incident in a blue county in Arizona where the drop box was set on fire, and also that $hitter had posts from people who posted about what kinds of liquids could be poured into drop boxes to destroy the ballots, so I decided to drive to my local post office and drop my ballot into the mail slot in the lobby.

My state has ballot tracking, so I was notified a couple of days ago that my ballot was accepted and counted. Take that, wannabe dictators!!

It tells us everything we might ever want to know about the R's, that cheating, lying, projection, and attacks are all they have.

May we crush them utterly. May they taste nothing but the ashes of defeat

love_katz

(3,192 posts)
46. Thank you for posting the KATU link.
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 01:42 PM
Oct 2024

I didn't realize that the Portland attack was at the county voter registration office.



Just...wow. R's are the biggest bunch of sore losers on the planet.

SayItLoud

(1,771 posts)
51. Surprise surprise...
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 02:30 PM
Oct 2024

Of course we knew this would be happening...and more to come. Why Biden hasn't used his executive options (and immunity) to protect every drop box with guards seems like a good question. Oh well.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
59. I'm figuring Election Offices are tracking
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 09:40 PM
Oct 2024

Who requested ballots.

And can possibly contact those they have not received. The ballot box location should help identify likely ballots impacted.

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