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turbinetree

(27,608 posts)
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 12:45 PM Oct 2024

'What's he confessing to?' Trump's Mike Johnson 'secret' draws Electoral College concerns

By David Badash, The New Civil Rights Movement
Published October 28, 2024 11:18 AM ET

Donald Trump's six-hour Madison Square Garden rally Sunday night, filled with "anger, vitriol and racist threats," began almost immediately with the "joke heard around the world"—an attack calling Puerto Rico a "floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean"—and ended with 80 minutes of Donald Trump telling “scores of lies.”

The racist broadside was from comedian Tony Hinchcliffe, who also told the MAGA crowd: "And these Latinos, they love making babies, too, just know that. They do, they do. There’s no pulling out. They don’t do that. They come inside, just like they did to our country."

As Mediaite reported, Hinchcliffe, pointing to a Black man in the audience, "went with what seemed like an off-the-cuff 'joke.'"

https://www.rawstory.com/whats-he-confessing-to-trumps-mike-johnson-secret-draws-electoral-college-concerns/

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But during those 80 minutes Donald Trump made one statement that has constitutional law and other experts concerned.

Referencing Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, Trump said: "I think with our little secret we are gonna do really well with the House, our little secret is having a big impact, he and I have a secret, we will tell you what it is when the race is over."


Trump at everyone of his fascist get togethers always will say something..............and this is his modus operandi..........always........GET OUT AND VOTE

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'What's he confessing to?' Trump's Mike Johnson 'secret' draws Electoral College concerns (Original Post) turbinetree Oct 2024 OP
Johnson is as bad as Trump, He will try to pull something to keep the majority, but in the end it won't work. OLDMDDEM Oct 2024 #1
Johnson is the one these whack jobs really want. valleyrogue Oct 2024 #33
That's just crap that he is pulling out of his ass MacKasey Oct 2024 #2
Exactly. Trump is a moron and everyone treats him as a genious n/t servermsh Oct 2024 #7
No it's not. It's not even a fucking concept. It's a plan. Autumn Oct 2024 #9
Yes, it's a mistake to underestimate him. StarryNite Oct 2024 #23
We know that people in Congress were in on Jan6. There's a reason none Autumn Oct 2024 #25
We voted harder last time orthoclad Oct 2024 #3
Yes, many of these dirtbags need to be investigated, indicted, tried and convicted of various crimes. n/t PatrickforB Oct 2024 #15
Mike Johnson is the worst speaker we've ever had. Initech Oct 2024 #4
My guess? Attempt to throw it to the House somehow pat_k Oct 2024 #5
The secret may be a plan to prevent the certifying of enough electors for Harris so that she does not have 270. Lonestarblue Oct 2024 #12
Yep pat_k Oct 2024 #14
It will be interesting to see DENVERPOPS Oct 2024 #17
Johnson is a goddamn snake dalton99a Oct 2024 #6
What kills me is he calls himself a Christian, but he seems like those whitewashed tombs Jesus spoke of - PatrickforB Oct 2024 #16
Mike Johnson will likely not be Speaker of the House on January 6, 2025. Wednesdays Oct 2024 #8
Yeah, not only does it require the GOP to keep Farmer-Rick Oct 2024 #10
If Trump wants Johnson, it'll be Johnson. TommyT139 Oct 2024 #13
CongressMEN? GenThePerservering Oct 2024 #31
Not at all... TommyT139 Oct 2024 #34
I don't see that happening. LiberalFighter Oct 2024 #26
Speaker Johnson was up to his eyeballs in surfered Oct 2024 #11
The little secret stays in place whether we set record GOTV or not. The secret lies with the certification delay plan. ancianita Oct 2024 #18
Who holds the power? orthoclad Oct 2024 #20
The 28 state republican caucuses. It's about their plan to delay certification from precinct to Secs of State. ancianita Oct 2024 #21
If we have to rely on the "Garland DOJ" gods help us orthoclad Oct 2024 #22
DU has talked about this before. And I'll remind you of a few posts about the Garland DOJ... ancianita Oct 2024 #24
As Trump digs his own grave, he's plotting to have others occupy it for him. No surprise there. jaxexpat Oct 2024 #19
Meant to spark conspiracy thinking in people in an applegrove Oct 2024 #27
I wonder if Katy Turd or Maga Haberman will ask MAGA Mike? Hassler Oct 2024 #28
Heads up bdamomma Oct 2024 #29
Fuck all these Nazi motherfuckers to hell Blue Owl Oct 2024 #30
I think we all know his "little secret" GenThePerservering Oct 2024 #32

OLDMDDEM

(3,216 posts)
1. Johnson is as bad as Trump, He will try to pull something to keep the majority, but in the end it won't work.
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 12:47 PM
Oct 2024

valleyrogue

(2,757 posts)
33. Johnson is the one these whack jobs really want.
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 09:45 PM
Oct 2024

He is a Christian Reconstructionist, a theocrat, of the worst sort. He actually believes the garbage he was raised with.

A number of months ago, Frank Schaeffer did a video about him and why Johnson is so dangerous.

Autumn

(48,977 posts)
9. No it's not. It's not even a fucking concept. It's a plan.
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 01:25 PM
Oct 2024

“We gotta get the congressmen elected and we gotta get the senators elected, because we can take the Senate pretty easily, and I think with our little secret we’re going to do really well with the House, right? Our little secret is having a big impact,” Trump said while looking in Johnson’s direction.

Appearing to point at the House speaker, the former president added, “He and I have a secret. We’ll tell you what it is when the race is over.”




If you aren't nervous about this election you better get nervous. Listening to that rally made me sick.

Autumn

(48,977 posts)
25. We know that people in Congress were in on Jan6. There's a reason none
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 07:51 PM
Oct 2024

of them were investigated by the DOJ and FBI

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
3. We voted harder last time
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 12:50 PM
Oct 2024

Last edited Mon Oct 28, 2024, 04:00 PM - Edit history (1)

What we need is enforcement, not coddling and cozying up to right-wingers. Forget reaching across the aisle, reach out to the poor and disempowered.

T recruits the people with guns: militias, cops, military. Be wary.

PatrickforB

(15,472 posts)
15. Yes, many of these dirtbags need to be investigated, indicted, tried and convicted of various crimes. n/t
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 03:29 PM
Oct 2024

Initech

(108,943 posts)
4. Mike Johnson is the worst speaker we've ever had.
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 12:51 PM
Oct 2024

And yes, that includes scumbag Newt Gingrich. At least Newt didn't pimp for the enemy.

pat_k

(13,485 posts)
5. My guess? Attempt to throw it to the House somehow
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 12:54 PM
Oct 2024

Trump is so stupid he thinks throwing it to the house will be a piece of cake. He probably said something like, if it goes to the house will we win? And Johnson said, "sure!"

The "if" being the sticker.

Lonestarblue

(13,521 posts)
12. The secret may be a plan to prevent the certifying of enough electors for Harris so that she does not have 270.
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 01:43 PM
Oct 2024

If the number of electors is tied, e.g., 269-269, the election goes to the House where Trump would win because Republicans hold an advantage in total states. It’s one vote per state. Johnson has no control over the state electors, but state Republicans sure do. That’s where the cheating will be, but the courts will be involved if Republicans in a swing state like Wisconsin, for example, refuse to certify a Harris win. The governor is a Democrat but I don’t know how much control he has over certification of electors.

Edited to add this link about the 2022 Act revising some Electoral College procedures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_Count_Reform_and_Presidential_Transition_Improvement_Act_of_2022

pat_k

(13,485 posts)
14. Yep
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 01:51 PM
Oct 2024

Trump is too stupid to realize the chances of pulling it off are nil. They've installed some crazy judges but not enough at the state appeals and state supreme court level are crazy enough to go along. Even their own lawyers are very skittish about the possibility of losing licenses and going to jail.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
17. It will be interesting to see
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 03:32 PM
Oct 2024

if they can pull off a situation to use the 12th amendment to throw the outcome of the election to the U.S. House.....

PatrickforB

(15,472 posts)
16. What kills me is he calls himself a Christian, but he seems like those whitewashed tombs Jesus spoke of -
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 03:31 PM
Oct 2024

Clean on the outside, but on the inside filled with decay and death. All you have to do is listen to the snake Johnson speak and you can smell the moral rot.

Wednesdays

(22,813 posts)
8. Mike Johnson will likely not be Speaker of the House on January 6, 2025.
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 01:01 PM
Oct 2024

Okay, so what was that secret plan again, DonOLD?

Farmer-Rick

(12,716 posts)
10. Yeah, not only does it require the GOP to keep
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 01:26 PM
Oct 2024

It's majority. It requires the House to vote for Johnson as speaker again.

If the GOP keeps it's majority, they are still a disorganized, rowdy and contentious group. Not sure Johnson has enough supporters in the House to get voted in again.

TommyT139

(2,425 posts)
13. If Trump wants Johnson, it'll be Johnson.
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 01:51 PM
Oct 2024

Of course the Republican congressmen heard that shout-out too.

TommyT139

(2,425 posts)
34. Not at all...
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 10:50 PM
Oct 2024

But the rethug opinion leaders in the House are nearly all men, especially those who seem to be in communication with Trump and his cronies, conspiring to destroy the country. Elise Stefanik may be an exception, although I sense she may lay low in hopes of surviving if things go bad. And to me, MTG is more a "bomb-thrower" than savvy conspirator (pun intended). Horrible, but not powerful.

(Also, who uses "stewardess" anymore? Geez.)

surfered

(13,768 posts)
11. Speaker Johnson was up to his eyeballs in
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 01:29 PM
Oct 2024

The amicus brief to the Supreme Court to overturn the election and the attempt by the House to not certify the Electoral College vote.

ancianita

(43,312 posts)
18. The little secret stays in place whether we set record GOTV or not. The secret lies with the certification delay plan.
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 03:32 PM
Oct 2024

Paid for by Elon, Thiel and dark money.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
20. Who holds the power?
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 04:05 PM
Oct 2024

from the Congressional Budget Office:



Money is power. It gushes up.

ancianita

(43,312 posts)
21. The 28 state republican caucuses. It's about their plan to delay certification from precinct to Secs of State.
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 05:04 PM
Oct 2024

Thing is, they can be monitored and judges in the states can make them stop their BS claims and do their jobs. But courts also take time. Elias has beaten fraud claims 61 times at state levels, and more again in the last few months.

The trump/johnson team want such massive court delays that the nation can't get 50 states' certifications of the vote to Congress by Jan 6 -- so the "peaceful transfer of power" is delayed.

And then what. I don't know. On the one hand I would hope that long before that, Biden pulls an "official act" out of his presidential hat and, between election day and Jan 6, has the Garland DOJ, CISA, and FBI on high alert while the party's legal teams expedite state cases.

If I'm wrong and they have another secret, I've no idea what it could be, except that when Trump claims victory on Nov 6, violence of a new kind begins here, or upkicks in Ukraine or Israel.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
22. If we have to rely on the "Garland DOJ" gods help us
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 05:25 PM
Oct 2024

remember, the director of the fbi was appointed by T. The fbi that really really really didn't want to raid maralago.

wiki:
On June 7, 2017, President Donald Trump nominated Wray to replace James Comey as Director of the FBI. He was confirmed by the U.S. Senate on July 30, and took office on August 2. Wray is a registered Republican.[3]

ancianita

(43,312 posts)
24. DU has talked about this before. And I'll remind you of a few posts about the Garland DOJ...
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 06:03 PM
Oct 2024

First, for broad context...

The international work of Garland's DOJ: from Main Justice https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-disrupts-covert-russian-government-sponsored-foreign-malign-influence

Second, for domestic election contexts...
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-four-cases-brought-election-threats-task-force

Third, I've posted these sites, which are updated all the time...

https://www.justice.gov/voting

https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/public-corruption/election-crimes

https://www.cisa.gov/topics/election-security


They are on high alert, and so are the 55 nationwide FBI field offices:
https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/@@castle.cms.querylisting/6bd7cedb14f545e3a984775195ea3d30

You can't even think that because you don't see what's going on behind the "news" scenes, that nothing is happening.
It's a big country with huge election moving parts, and you can't even think about laying blame on Garland when first and foremost, it's the states' chain of possession people who have to do their legal constitutional duty.





 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
19. As Trump digs his own grave, he's plotting to have others occupy it for him. No surprise there.
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 03:38 PM
Oct 2024

He's never committed to respect the election results. Most remain unimpressed with his little melodramas. The crazy fucker's counting on his minions to cause unrest. The only fear is that Joe may not act quickly enough to quash any momentum these cabalists engender. If he awaits advice from the AG, there could be serious civil unrest in some cities, the kind unseen since 1865, before Garland even gets his copy of "History of Government for Dummies" turned to the right page.

It's unprecedented but it's definitely on the executive's plate to handle and at that level of government, we have an institutional record for failing to protect our own democracy with the great urgency it requires. There's nothing to be gained by hand wringing or worrying about another Waco or Ruby Ridge. It may be informative to contemplate how failure to remove Andrew Johnson via impeachment has a lot to do with the impetus for our current national night-sweats. There is surely adequate reasonable evidence for probable cause to arrest enough of the current Republican house majority to temper that majority.

applegrove

(132,582 posts)
27. Meant to spark conspiracy thinking in people in an
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 08:06 PM
Oct 2024

attempt to make them susceptible to more conspiracies.

bdamomma

(69,585 posts)
29. Heads up
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 08:09 PM
Oct 2024

or red alert, to his little secret with Mike Johnson. The felon will say or do anything to lie, steal and cheat to get in power. Dictator on Day 1, believe him.

All the more reason to VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Blue Owl

(59,300 posts)
30. Fuck all these Nazi motherfuckers to hell
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 08:53 PM
Oct 2024

Seriously, didn’t we eradicate this toxic poison during WWIi?

GenThePerservering

(3,494 posts)
32. I think we all know his "little secret"
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 09:23 PM
Oct 2024

he's so dumb - it's obviously to try to flip the election to the House.

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