I have never seen a Presidential campaign shoot itself in the face like this....

[Dem4life1970]

[Klarkashton]

1. They mean every goddamn word of it too.

This is horrible.

[paleotn]

15. Granted. Of course they do...but....

no one in their right mind says it out loud less than 2 weeks from the election! What morons! Didn't even dog whistle it. Just F'ing said it. The incompetence. It's staggering!

[Klarkashton]

18. The voters have GOT to be saying "JFC this is what

Is going to really happen? Noooooo!"

[soldierant]

30. Except for the ones

who are saying, "JFC, this is what is going to really happen? Yessssss!"

[KPN]

67. You got that right. MAGAts be drooling.

[DENVERPOPS]

33. Makes you wonder

if they are so sure they have it in the bag with their corruption, that they feel they can say anything they want.....

[Probatim]

34. I've had the same thought over and over and over and ad infinitum.

Sickens me what might happen.

[DENVERPOPS]

49. Here it is:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/132243827

Pallast and Hartman video on 12th Amendment.........

[Jmb 4 Harris-Walz]

70. Don't think this is true. That only happens if the EV is TIED. The winner doesn't HAVE to have 270. If some states

don’t certify, those EV are deducted from the total and the number needed to win is reduced accordingly.

[DENVERPOPS]

71. You would think

these two top journalists for over 20 years would know that????????

I guess, as with everything these days, we will just have to wait and see what the Republicans pull.........and what they get away with, given our current Supreme Court Justices.......

Their interference in the 2000 election, with absolutely no jurisdiction, showed us! And this bunch is far far worse.....

[Jmb 4 Harris-Walz]

72. Jamie Raskin was on Alex Wagner tonight talking about this very issue. The 12th Amendment.

It’ll be repeated later tonight if anyone is interested

[DENVERPOPS]

74. Thx....NC

[spooky3]

35. I think they have a Plan B in the event that they lose and that is what is making them confident.

Have no idea how that would work, but I also didn't foresee the fake elector scheme previously. If the electoral vote isn't close, throwing it to Mike Johnson and the House to decide will not work.

[DENVERPOPS]

45. Did you see

the Thom Hartmann and Greg Palast interview where they talk about the Red States, refusing to report the votes, and upsetting the electoral college votes to the point neither gets to the 270 votes to win? then the 12th Amendment kicks in and it goes to the U.S. House for them to decide the winner????????

Scary shit..............

[spooky3]

47. I didn't see that specific interview, unfortunately. But I had

Heard that they would try something like this and hope Mikey could save them.

[mucholderthandirt]

56. It's not going to happen. The House will be different then, anyway. Let's make it blue, everyone!

[DENVERPOPS]

50. Here it is

https://www.democraticunderground.com/132243827

Palast and Hartmann talking about scheme using the 12th amendment

[CanonRay]

54. Johnson is a religious fanatic

so the end justifies any means in the name of God.

[travelingthrulife]

57. Yep. they lie, steal, cheat, destroy but they are 'saved' don't ya know

Anything they do they pretend they are doing it for Jesus.

I'll bet it chaps Jesus' hide.

[Joinfortmill]

68. Maybe, but he always seems to stop short, metaphorically, of the kill shot.

[JHB]

38. I think it's more that they're believing their own advertising...

...smoking their own product, drinking their own kool-ade, huffing their own paint thinner.

Everyone with the sense to keep "the quiet part" quiet has left the building... through the door or out the window.

[PortTack]

43. This...the con man won't hear anything but I'm winning. He believes his own BS

Let them try and steal the election. Tsf is a private citizen that has very little power as compared to when j/6 happened

[Cha]

53. I like your Spirit, PortTack!

[slightlv]

65. Of course you're right, but

they've gotten away with so much for so long without any consequences that they just feel they can do anything right now. That came to an abrupt halt with the MSG hate fest. At least some of his campaign staff know without a doubt how most of America feels about their candidate now. And I laugh if the reports are true that the lawyers are worried about getting indicted or losing their licenses like the 2020 lawyers have.

The law, as I was taught way back when, was not to punish. It was not to exact revenge or retribution upon a person. It was to teach them the error of their ways and to rehabilitate them to the point where they could become a proper functioning member of society. We lost that credo a LONG time ago. Since at least the time of Nixon's drug war, it's been all about punishment and retribution, until that became internalized as part of the republican platform, itself. I think (hope) trump is about to understand the difference between the law as intended and the law as implemented in his type of world... not that I think he could ever be "rehabbed" to be a functional part of society.

[Beck23]

66. Yes, and what's worse

Is that they reviewed the jokes ahead of time, so they knew what he was going to say.

[harumph]

2. if only...

[birdographer]

3. I really, really, really hope

they did not vote early and now regret it. I hope they have waited to vote.

They have been shooting themselves in the foot for a long time. Detroit will turn into the mess that is...Detroit? He never knows where he is. I want those people you cite to be voting any time starting tomorrow.

[Klarkashton]

20. people have pride about where they live. The idea

Is to build it up, complement the good stuff. Say there is help on way for this and that. I'd ask WTF is wrong with that bastard but why bother.

[LisaL]

4. Really?

Then he wasn't paying attention. Trump has done it repeatedly.

[Claustrum]

8. Exactly, they and he specifically denigrates numerous groups on a daily basis.

You have to tune it out in order to not notice it. There is a reason they thought it was ok to say it on stage.

[progressoid]

27. Exactly.

He called Iowa voters stupid and they repeatedly vote for him.

The mind boggles.

[paleotn]

19. Usually in dog whistles or where they can claim "you're taking it out of context" Not this time.

That was one of the most blatantly racist statements I've heard in quite a while. Didn't even attempt to cover it. Just said what we all know they think out loud for everyone to hear. That's the difference this time.

[Klarkashton]

21. Instead of making lame excuses they are relying

On Loomer to basically blame it on Antifa.

[paleotn]

23. That dog ain't gonna hunt.

Conventional wisdom says you up your campaign discipline - no loose cannons, drop the inflammatory, stay on message and at least attempt to be positive this close to election day. The simple reason is, many voters decide in the final days of a campaign and if something really blows up, you've got no time to recover. Seriously, how freaking dumb are those people? Certainly good for our side, but jebbers!

[Blue Owl]

5. Would a single one of them vote for tRump after he called them garbage?

[mucifer]

63. Some did after he wouldn't send hurricane money to Puerto Rico.

[NoMoreRepugs]

6. At this point every Puerto Rican vote that switches from the SlobFather to Harris is 2 votes for Harris.

[magicarpet]

7. Inside the djt bubble it is so,....

..... common to shit on people of any shade of color that they forget to tone it down once their feet hit the street.

The bubble no longer protects or insulates them but their diarrhea of the mouth and brain rats them out.

[Claustrum]

9. Actually, I think they love TFG specifically for this.

TFG set an example to be as s***** as they can in public as they are in private. They love him because he says the quiet part out loud. To a point now they aren't even afraid to say it on stage. They love the fact that they no longer have to hide it.

Any person excusing any of this is complicit.

[Skittles]

11. yup

they've gone from racism-as-usual to NAZI

[Klarkashton]

22. There aren't enough of them. This is no longer

Just a campaign it's a war they are getting ready to wage.

[PortTack]

42. Not what I saw on TikTok last....young engaged Puerto Ricans, guys and women infuriated by their insults

[Jack Valentino]

10. I hope our campaigns have "ads in the can about to run" in every one of those states,

highlighting that toxic anti-PR quote!!!!!

Can't rely on the media to tell that story....

[PeaceWave]

12. The one Puerto Rican I know (a doctor) doubled down on Trump when he called doctors "liars."

I could live to be 100 and never figure out the Svengali effect Trump has on some people.

[yorkster]

25. Agree. If anything he's the unsvengali..

beady-eyed, boring and boorish.

[Martin68]

13. It's not a "campaign." It's Trump.

[Tribetime]

14. And Stuart Stevens is saying Harris is running the best Campaign in History

.....LANDSLIDE coming

[PeaceWave]

17. It has been a well run campaign - which makes the polls numbers so strange.

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

39. Well run campaign equals Well run administration

It means competent people are in charge. This is Theismann twirling his lower calf bad.

[Gaugamela]

16. It's a closed system, hermetically sealed.

Consequently, they think they're the normal ones. They never know why stuff comes back to bite them in the ass, which they think is outrageously unfair. And it gives them a victim complex. Because they're stupid.

[Coexist]

24. I fully expected a Dick Cheney joke here

[usonian]

26. Trump makes his appeal ONLY to cult members, whose number is diminishing.

He must think he is mobilizing them to turn out en masse, but he destroyed the ground game by siphoning off money and turning it over to a moron who only believes in reducing human workers and has absolutely no grasp of business as a human activity, only in automating it. It’s all about singular control, and that’s why he bought an entire platform: to automate people under his control.

But I digress.

For those of us who have lived a while, the rransformation of what was the GOP from a “small government” party to one of dictatorial control is amazing.

DON’T LET IT HAPPEN.
FIGHT LIKE HELL

Convince someone who held party affiliation to break loose of the takeover.

https://democraticunderground.com/100219593621
ESPECIALLY the BuzzFeed article referenced in it on why 29 of their readers switched to Harris and Walz from the rubble that was their party.

[LoisB]

28. I don't think donnie cares. I think he thinks he's got his ducks lined up to "take" the election even if he is

routed at the polls.

[Dan]

29. Just a thought, for what is is worth

About 8 or 9 years ago when the Media started identifying that Latinos were now the largest minority group in America, I wondered when the GOP would start attacking them as a group. It was not a question of "if", to me it was just a question of When.

[Metaphorical]

37. 2016

There was a fairly radical shift in the GOP when Trump won the primary the first time. Until then, the conventional wisdom was that the GOP needed to reach out to the Latino vote because of shifting demographics - if they wanted to hold onto power, they needed to reach out to the Latino community. After Trump, that doctrine was thrown out the window. The new GOP would bring in those who had been out in the wilderness: the Klan, neo-Nazis, Southern Racists and White Supremacists, misogynists, the arch-Fundamentalists, the conspiracy theorists,the survival militia types ... all of the fringe types motivated primarily by hatred and a desire to overthrow the system. Surprisingly (or perhaps not) this included a fair number of blacks and Latinos (especially men), who liked Trump's strongman gangster image, and thought that they would be welcomed with open arms.

At first, they were, which is why you did see blacks and Latinos at Trump rallies, for a few years anyway. But if you look around today, you notice that there are very few people of color in Trump's orbit, and the ones that are generally are the ones that could most pass for white. Similarly, you see fewer Jews, and almost no Asians. The ones who remain are still used as props, but they have no real authority, and are not trusted with any power.

This is the way Trump wants it. I don't even think that it's all that conscious a strategy; rather, he's been purging minorities and women from the ranks because he doesn't want to be contaminated by them.

[Dan]

41. Damn, that is vicious

....to carry that idea to its logical conclusion - would you say that this a desire on the part of the GOP to purge America of minorities? Maybe like Germany in the 1930's, a gradual indoctrination of making "racial hatred" acceptable to the masses?

[PortTack]

44. When it was jr's turn to speak he said America is for Americans only. That is the exact line Himler used time and agsin

(Germany is for Germans only) And was spoken at the 1939 MSG nazi rally.

[Dan]

48. I didn't listen to that Madison Sq. Garden ....except some opinions stated later about the event.

America is not Germany.
Americans are not as civilized as the Germans were in 1930s.
America, truth be told, we can be a vicious, violent nation.
I suspect that when they (GOP) decide to put people in internment camps - they will definitely be some blow-back.

Maybe Trump figures to use Putin's Army, cause the American army is full of "undesirables".

I hope that Donald Jr. decides to lead the charge to make America for Americans only - plus, I would like to hear them define what are true Americans.

[Metaphorical]

64. It's a MAGA goal

To the extent that MAGA has taken over the RNC, I would say it's been transferred by association.

I don't think all Republicans are racists, but the ones that aren't are increasingly calling themselves independents.

[4lbs]

31. I will laugh my ass off if Heir Orange loses FL because of the Puerto Rican vote

down there.

EDIT:

Also, an unconfirmed self-administered research and analysis shows that a quarter million registered Puerto Ricans live in Texas (about 250,000 or so).

That would mean Texas too.

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

32. Thank Buddha they're so stupid...

If the PR vote is a significant factor in the vote, we should reward them with Statehood. And even if it's not. It's high time they got a star.

[Fiddlelady11]

36. Just another indicator

Of how stupid tRump is…..

[Deuxcents]

40. TSF may not be the sharpest tool I the box but I worry about his loyalists wanting power

And the cult followers that are ignorant to the facts..

[Warpy]

46. The funny part is that they thought it would seal the deal

and that every male bigot in the country would line up to vote for them and order their womenfolk to do the same and of course the womenfolks would comply.

Didn't the Nazi Party hole a rally at MSG? I hope we don't need to fight a war to get rid of this bunch of them.

[leftyladyfrommo]

58. There was a big rally in 1939. Walz was

talking about it in his rally.

[Warpy]

59. Yep, wasn't sure when it was, too lazy to look it up

but I can remember the scary pictures, TFG's daddy undoubtedly in attendance, right down in front.

[The Roux Comes First]

51. It's Tough to Decide Whether This is the Stupid They Are So Capable of Or the Overconfidence We All Fear

[Cha]

52. TY! There's Arizona & Nevada to think about, too.

Nevada 2020 winning margin: 33,596 Puerto Rican population: 27,230 Arizona 2020 winning margin: 10,457 Puerto Rican population: 64,738

Map: Puerto Rican population in every US state

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/10/28/metro/puerto-rican-population-us-map/

[AdamGG]

55. I pray that on November 6th, pundits will be talking how this was a difference maker

but I thought "grab them by the pussy" was a game ender and I definitely thought January 6th had finished him.

His endgame of this campaign seems to be to purposely be as offensive as possible. Arnold Palmer's cock?

I'll dance/piss on his grave when I get the chance, but I won't believe he's gone until he's in it.

[Montauk6]

60. I just hope Doofus Don brings that alleged comedian to a Dearborn, MI rally

I'm sure that biscuithead's got a whole slew of one liners for the Arab community. Oh, and he would be less than a half hour away from Hamtramck where he can repopularize Polish jokes.

Malloy 3:16...

[Javaman]

61. never ever underestimate the awesome power of stupidity, though.

we have been witness enough times to watch as how people choose to vote against their own interests.

[johnnyfins]

62. After watching and reading for years since

2020, there is NO DOUBT in my mind that the 2024 election will be stolen, and 45 will become 47. The guardrails are gone. Buckle up folks. It's gonna get bad.

We still need to vote in huge numbers, and I will, but the other side has too many ways to steal it. The framers never imagined a candidate this depraved, or a big part of the electorate this brainwashed.

It is, in my opinion, insurmountable.

[cannabis_flower]

69. Puerto Ricans in Texas - 253,800

[Jmb 4 Harris-Walz]

73. Jamie Raskin was on Alex Wagner Tonight

One of the topics covered was the 12th Amendment. Will be repeated later tonight if interested.