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AmBlue

(3,452 posts)
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 12:31 PM Oct 2024

TSF on CNN: "I am not a Nazi."

I don't have a link as I just saw this on CNN. NOT a winning message. They know the Nazi rally at MSG is a problem.

Even stone-faced Dana Bash was speaking out about it NOT being the "love-fest" TSF claims.

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TSF on CNN: "I am not a Nazi." (Original Post) AmBlue Oct 2024 OP
But is he a crook? arlyellowdog Oct 2024 #1
Snap ananda Oct 2024 #46
Cue Richard Nixon Deep State Witch Oct 2024 #47
Considering Bill Clinton got impeached for lying... jmowreader Oct 2024 #67
Makes Nixon look like a Boy Scout. Permanut Oct 2024 #85
+1 peppertree Oct 2024 #91
Pardon me while I stop laughing!! TSExile Oct 2024 #2
Reminiscent of "I am not a witch". chowder66 Oct 2024 #3
Recommended. H2O Man Oct 2024 #19
Also, the (probably aprocŕaphul(sp) line from Johnson abou his opponent being a pig-fucker? Volaris Oct 2024 #29
"I am not a Stupid Fuck" Seinan Sensei Oct 2024 #50
That was an instant classic. mobeau69 Oct 2024 #30
Monty Python? Evolve Dammit Oct 2024 #69
Christine O'Donnell chowder66 Oct 2024 #94
Well if it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck....welll it's a duck...or a nazi duck...nt mitch96 Oct 2024 #4
and when it steps like a goose... Fozzledick Oct 2024 #8
A goose-stepping duck nt GoYouPackersGo Oct 2024 #49
.... and if the goose wears jackboots and has a Nazi swastika armband,... magicarpet Oct 2024 #65
Trump lies about everything. What else is new? Fozzledick Oct 2024 #5
"I am not a crook." Sogo Oct 2024 #6
"The people have a right to know if their president is a crook." mobeau69 Oct 2024 #32
"The people have a right to know if their president is a Nazi." Ocelot II Oct 2024 #79
What was that Lyndon Johnson quote? You say it just to hear them deny it? Prairie Gates Oct 2024 #7
Quick dweller Oct 2024 #10
You don't get to act like a Nazi, talk like a Nazi, Quiet Em Oct 2024 #9
It's sunk this low. Klarkashton Oct 2024 #11
Sure looked like it to me, Sunday, Oct. 27, 2024. IMO republianmushroom Oct 2024 #12
Well, Richard Nixon said "I'm not a crook"... GainesT1958 Oct 2024 #13
likewise the magats know he's lying southmost Oct 2024 #90
Mussolini wasn't a Nazi sarisataka Oct 2024 #14
Neither was Franco. maxsolomon Oct 2024 #25
too many syllables for him and his cult n/t AdamGG Oct 2024 #70
Yeah, he'd stumble and slur and 'weave' into some other offensive comment. Conjuay Oct 2024 #93
"No, I just think, talk and act like a NAZI." Kid Berwyn Oct 2024 #15
Brilliant closing message for his campaign. /s LeftinOH Oct 2024 #16
Yes you are........................ Lovie777 Oct 2024 #17
... this is fatal for drumpf.. thomski64 Oct 2024 #81
If you feel like you have to deny being a Nazi you're probably a Nazi. Ocelot II Oct 2024 #18
And he reassured us earlier that he's also not weird Zambero Oct 2024 #20
He's devoted years to spewing Hitler's greatest hits... agingdem Oct 2024 #21
From the "Life imitates the Seinfeld show" files: usonian Oct 2024 #22
When you have to deny something like this, that is bad. everyonematters Oct 2024 #23
It is stunning... AmBlue Oct 2024 #24
No, Donnie, you're just a two-bit fascist. sinkingfeeling Oct 2024 #26
But nobody at CNN moniss Oct 2024 #27
who is tsf? samnsara Oct 2024 #28
TSF is Trump AmBlue Oct 2024 #31
The Slob Father..n/t SheilaAnn Oct 2024 #33
The Sick Fucker IronLionZion Oct 2024 #80
The ignorant fucker probably grumpyduck Oct 2024 #34
The man kept a copy of Mein Kampf next to his bed.... Teacher of the Year Oct 2024 #57
Did he read it? grumpyduck Oct 2024 #68
Ivanna said so. Then she "fell" down the stairs. Clouds Passing Oct 2024 #89
Yeah, but are you a witch? Iggo Oct 2024 #35
He's Not Deep State Witch Oct 2024 #45
That drew a chuckle. TomSlick Oct 2024 #58
Yes, but you're from the deep state, so I'm not sure we can trust you. CrispyQ Oct 2024 #59
I don't care that he is a candidate moniss Oct 2024 #36
Snicker Solly Mack Oct 2024 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Oct 2024 #38
"I am not a Nazi." J_William_Ryan Oct 2024 #39
Like LBJ always said: Captain Zero Oct 2024 #40
It was a lovefest... kentuck Oct 2024 #41
The accusation was that he is a fascist, not that he is a Nazi. eShirl Oct 2024 #42
Too little attention paid to his "father's" instruction krkaufman Oct 2024 #43
Dana is a stealth MAGAt? Quanto Magnus Oct 2024 #44
I knew she was MAGA 6 years ago ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 2024 #92
Walks like duck, quacks like duck. Duck. twodogsbarking Oct 2024 #48
he really said that? LymphocyteLover Oct 2024 #51
This Djt campaign banner is stamped as approved by Djt Jrose Oct 2024 #52
One thing one should never have to deny. I doubt this kind of denial: I'm not a thief, I never lie, I'm not a Nazi. marble falls Oct 2024 #53
All he will ever feel is his crowd's adulation Warpy Oct 2024 #54
Good enough for me. He's got my vote lame54 Oct 2024 #55
His jealousy of Kamala and her rallies birdographer Oct 2024 #56
Was just reminded in a Democracy Now clip dweller Oct 2024 #60
sounds as effective as 'i'm not a crook' samsingh Oct 2024 #61
if it looks like a duck, quaks like a duck samsingh Oct 2024 #62
Throwback: I am not a witch n/t hibbing Oct 2024 #63
"I just happen to love Hitler and Nazism" dalton99a Oct 2024 #64
That should be good enough for CNN ramedy Oct 2024 #66
Aw shucks. Mr. Trump meant a love fest for hate Tweedy Oct 2024 #71
If you're publicly denying you're a Nazi, you're losing... Wiz Imp Oct 2024 #72
If you have to say 'I'm not a Nazi' NH Ethylene Oct 2024 #73
Nazi adjacent then. Walks the walk and talks the talk rurallib Oct 2024 #74
Like father like son... MT in SF Oct 2024 #75
No One Called Him A Nazi. GB_RN Oct 2024 #76
Sounds like something a Nazi would say IronLionZion Oct 2024 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author GB_RN Oct 2024 #78
Don't think of an elephant pat_k Oct 2024 #82
Yeah... Atreus Oct 2024 #83
a nazi rally IS a Trump "love-fest" Skittles Oct 2024 #84
Well, area51 Oct 2024 #86
If you have to say it ... VMA131Marine Oct 2024 #87
Actions speak louder than words DSandra Oct 2024 #88
It's only Naziism if it's from 20th century Germany... BluRay76 Oct 2024 #95
Can we get a fact check on that? n/t whopis01 Oct 2024 #96

jmowreader

(52,517 posts)
67. Considering Bill Clinton got impeached for lying...
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 01:56 PM
Oct 2024

...Trump could get impeached for reciting Nixon's speech.

On November 16, 1973, Nixon spoke at the Associated Press Managing Editors Conference at Walt Disney World and talked about the allegations he was profiting from public service. This is what he said:

"I have earned every cent. And in all my years of public life, I have never obstructed justice. People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook. Well, I'm not a crook. I've earned everything I've got."

Trump is a crook, and all he's done is obstructed justice.

Volaris

(10,940 posts)
29. Also, the (probably aprocŕaphul(sp) line from Johnson abou his opponent being a pig-fucker?
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 12:55 PM
Oct 2024

'Of course no one will believe it, I just want him to have to deny it publicly'

Trump is doing that to himself WITHOUT any outside prompting, really...

mitch96

(15,321 posts)
4. Well if it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck....welll it's a duck...or a nazi duck...nt
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 12:33 PM
Oct 2024

magicarpet

(18,455 posts)
65. .... and if the goose wears jackboots and has a Nazi swastika armband,...
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 01:55 PM
Oct 2024

..... it might not be just a Camp Fire Girl.

Achtung - if they tell you who they are,... believe them.

Prairie Gates

(5,586 posts)
7. What was that Lyndon Johnson quote? You say it just to hear them deny it?
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 12:35 PM
Oct 2024

Good Lord, a week out to the election and dude is denying Nazism on television.

Quiet Em

(2,077 posts)
9. You don't get to act like a Nazi, talk like a Nazi,
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 12:36 PM
Oct 2024

and then get mad about being called a Nazi.

I am so very sick of this creep. His toxic, gross, Nazi message is sucking all the oxygen out of the room.

Can't wait for VP Harris' rally tonight. I need a dose of decency, and an uplifting message to counter all the bigoted garbage the cult is spewing.

republianmushroom

(20,571 posts)
12. Sure looked like it to me, Sunday, Oct. 27, 2024. IMO
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 12:38 PM
Oct 2024

Nazism is described as one type of fascism. Both fascism and Nazism reject democracy and liberalism as ideologies, and instead embrace the concept of a nationalist state.

GainesT1958

(4,549 posts)
13. Well, Richard Nixon said "I'm not a crook"...
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 12:38 PM
Oct 2024

And everyone but his staunchest supporters knew he was lying, too...

maxsolomon

(36,896 posts)
25. Neither was Franco.
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 12:52 PM
Oct 2024

The word is Authoritarian. He would deny that too because he doesn't know what it means.

Kid Berwyn

(21,181 posts)
15. "No, I just think, talk and act like a NAZI."
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 12:39 PM
Oct 2024

Which is the same freaking thing, ya unstable mo-ron.

thomski64

(687 posts)
81. ... this is fatal for drumpf..
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 02:27 PM
Oct 2024

..by disavowing Nazism, he is alienating an enormous portion of his most ardent supporters..

Zambero

(9,861 posts)
20. And he reassured us earlier that he's also not weird
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 12:45 PM
Oct 2024

Wow, for a second there I was worried. I feel so much better now!

agingdem

(8,583 posts)
21. He's devoted years to spewing Hitler's greatest hits...
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 12:48 PM
Oct 2024

and now he's proclaiming he's not a Nazi...just like he's not a callous psychopath who ignored a global pandemic and effectively murdered over a million innocent Americans...I guess he's not that guy either, right?

everyonematters

(3,860 posts)
23. When you have to deny something like this, that is bad.
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 12:50 PM
Oct 2024

People are going to believe that he is a Nazi because he is denying it.

AmBlue

(3,452 posts)
24. It is stunning...
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 12:51 PM
Oct 2024

...that THIS is his closing argument. That in the very last week run-up to the American Presidential election we have this candidate--who is a known felon, con man, and racist-- holding a big, Nazi-reminiscent rally, then denying he is a Nazi, when all else he does and says tells us otherwise.

The lies and gaslighting and all-out hatred IS his closing argument. I am not dismissing the danger, but I think the American people will crush him in a landslide.

moniss

(7,677 posts)
27. But nobody at CNN
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 12:53 PM
Oct 2024

had the balls or integrity to immediately fire back and say "But you are a convicted felon, sex criminal and a proven serial liar."

AmBlue

(3,452 posts)
31. TSF is Trump
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 12:57 PM
Oct 2024

Joe Biden referred to him as "the sick f*ck," and the acronym stuck, in part to not be explicitly using the F word. It's also an apropos description.

grumpyduck

(6,668 posts)
34. The ignorant fucker probably
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 12:59 PM
Oct 2024

doesn't even know what a Nazi is.

And neither do a lot of his moron followers.

moniss

(7,677 posts)
36. I don't care that he is a candidate
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 01:00 PM
Oct 2024

it is the fact that these media people can continue to even entertain a discussion with this rapist, convicted felon, serial liar, insurrectionist and traitor that is so amazingly repugnant time after time. To accept doing this means there is no bottom and therefore they would have entertained Gacey, Manson, Berkowitz, Dahmer etc. and called it "attempting to be fair".

Response to AmBlue (Original post)

eShirl

(19,378 posts)
42. The accusation was that he is a fascist, not that he is a Nazi.
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 01:22 PM
Oct 2024

If it walks like a duck, sharts like a duck...

krkaufman

(13,957 posts)
43. Too little attention paid to his "father's" instruction
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 01:22 PM
Oct 2024

There’s only one reason for a father to instruct his son not to mention Nazis or Hitler’s name, because he’s educating him on how to keep the racism on the down-low.

Quanto Magnus

(1,169 posts)
44. Dana is a stealth MAGAt?
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 01:23 PM
Oct 2024

I never saw her that way until the last few months. Of all people, Jake Tapper was calling the media out and as I understand it was inferred that he was at a minimum talking about Dana.

ArkansasDemocrat1

(3,213 posts)
92. I knew she was MAGA 6 years ago
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 03:18 PM
Oct 2024

She does those shady Superbeets infomercials. Because beets are supposedly a Superfood rivaling anything else 🙄

marble falls

(66,945 posts)
53. One thing one should never have to deny. I doubt this kind of denial: I'm not a thief, I never lie, I'm not a Nazi.
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 01:34 PM
Oct 2024

Warpy

(113,664 posts)
54. All he will ever feel is his crowd's adulation
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 01:37 PM
Oct 2024

He has zero insight, he has zero self reflection, he is utterly hollow.

Yeah, he's a Nazi.

Shun him.

dweller

(26,818 posts)
60. Was just reminded in a Democracy Now clip
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 01:48 PM
Oct 2024

George Wallace held a rally in 1968 during his white supremacy run for president at MSG … so the Pisswig’s rally was similar to both 1939 Nazi rally and 1968 white supremacist rally

A twofer



✌🏻

Tweedy

(1,284 posts)
71. Aw shucks. Mr. Trump meant a love fest for hate
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 02:15 PM
Oct 2024

Don’t ’cha know?

I don’t think Mr. Trump got any sleep last night. Somebody really should get him to a sleep clinic. There are a ton of people around him grifting. There does not appear to be anybody caring. He does not deserve our sympathy. Nonetheless, his misery is so palpable today, I do pity the sleepless slug-man. Let us make certain he goes home to sleep after he loses this election.

MT in SF

(5 posts)
75. Like father like son...
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 02:19 PM
Oct 2024

Woody Guthrie had this to say about Trump's Dad:

I suppose
Old Man Trump knows
Just how much
Racial Hate
he stirred up
In the bloodpot of human hearts
When he drawed
That color line
Here at his
Eighteen hundred family project.

GB_RN

(3,398 posts)
76. No One Called Him A Nazi.
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 02:20 PM
Oct 2024

So his denial is irrelevant. He’s been labeled as fascist, and there’s a difference. All Nazis are/were fascist. But not all fascists were/are Nazis. For example, the Mussolini and his crowd in Italy were fascists, but not Nazis. Imperial Japan from the 30s to the end of the war was fascist, but not Nazi.

Basically, Nazism was just a flavor of fascism.

IronLionZion

(49,411 posts)
77. Sounds like something a Nazi would say
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 02:20 PM
Oct 2024

our side doesn't have to announce that we're not Nazis.

Response to AmBlue (Original post)

pat_k

(11,412 posts)
82. Don't think of an elephant
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 02:33 PM
Oct 2024

2016 Lakoff on Trump

https://press.uchicago.edu/books/excerpt/2016/lakoff_trump.html

The analysis holds up today, as to the recommendation for successful framing that reaches past party affiliation.

BluRay76

(54 posts)
95. It's only Naziism if it's from 20th century Germany...
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 03:51 PM
Oct 2024

Otherwise, it’s just sparkling fascism.

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