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Good news from Fox (of all places!) (Original Post) anamnua Oct 2024 OP
How does Fox know this? OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2024 #1
Probably exit polling.... getagrip_already Oct 2024 #20
Great news but I'm not sure I'm buying it. Arthur_Frain Oct 2024 #2
Yeah, those are turn out the lights, the party's over numbers. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #4
As much as I want them Arthur_Frain Oct 2024 #7
Hard to disagree. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #11
Look at the poll... tweet doesn't reflect poll results. WarGamer Oct 2024 #16
Yeah, I was just digging around for that. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #17
Those are already voted numbers Tweedy Oct 2024 #15
They're aiming for overconfidence lame54 Oct 2024 #19
My thoughts as well. "No need for further voting Democrats, you've already won!" OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2024 #22
Depends where they did the exit polling.... getagrip_already Oct 2024 #21
Fox News doesn't run their own polls. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #3
Twitter shit storm coming in ALL CAPS tonight Tribetime Oct 2024 #5
"Oh, since it's already in the bag, I don't need to bother with voting." Pinback Oct 2024 #6
Or the Dems have this sown up already anamnua Oct 2024 #8
Makes me want to vote even more, let's break Meadowoak Oct 2024 #9
People are voting and not being dissuaded. PCIntern Oct 2024 #10
Here in PA kwolf68 Oct 2024 #12
Are they trying to get Dems to not vote since.. ananda Oct 2024 #13
Misleading tweet... top line of Fox Poll is PA, Trump +1 in a head to head race, tied with expanded ballot. WarGamer Oct 2024 #14
It's not AS good as it looks (and I'm not known to be the Debbie Downer; this is just math): Grown2Hate Oct 2024 #18

OAITW r.2.0

(32,187 posts)
1. How does Fox know this?
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 07:45 PM
Oct 2024

Sounds like BS. But I truly hope this is the case.


On edit, how do they know they have a representative sample to make this conclusion?

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
20. Probably exit polling....
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 08:47 PM
Oct 2024

Statistics? Now that is funny!

They just keep asking people hoping for an answer. When press time nears, they tally it.

Now its news.

Arthur_Frain

(2,373 posts)
2. Great news but I'm not sure I'm buying it.
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 07:45 PM
Oct 2024

Those would be legendary numbers. I don’t think our nation is there, but I’d gladly eat crow on November sixth.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
4. Yeah, those are turn out the lights, the party's over numbers.
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 07:47 PM
Oct 2024

And the after-party would start in earnest.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
11. Hard to disagree.
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 07:57 PM
Oct 2024

One possibility would be significant crossover vote from Rs, as many have been predicting, but I've never been fully sold on the idea.

I'd be more than happy to be proven too pessimistic.

But, yeah, I think these numbers are unlikely. Hope they're not.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
21. Depends where they did the exit polling....
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 08:49 PM
Oct 2024

If they did it in a hispanic philly neighborhood, i can believe it.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
3. Fox News doesn't run their own polls.
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 07:46 PM
Oct 2024

Which is why they seem relatively reasonable.

They use Beacon Research/Shaw & Co. Research, and they're #16 on 538's list of 300+ pollsters.

Pinback

(13,604 posts)
6. "Oh, since it's already in the bag, I don't need to bother with voting."
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 07:48 PM
Oct 2024

Not that Fox would ever encourage such thinking among Dems, of course!

kwolf68

(8,452 posts)
12. Here in PA
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 08:02 PM
Oct 2024

We are getting slammed by trump commercials. I've never seen anything like it. During this pregame, 5 of 6 commercials (in a row) were political in nature bashing Democrats. I have not even seen 1 pro Harris commercial in the last 45 minutes and like 10 or so "Casey is too Liberal", "men in womens sports", "sex changes", "border czar" shit.

I have no data, but they are spending way more money than us in PA on commercials.

WarGamer

(18,638 posts)
14. Misleading tweet... top line of Fox Poll is PA, Trump +1 in a head to head race, tied with expanded ballot.
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 08:13 PM
Oct 2024

Tweet is feeding good news snippet ignoring the top line.

Grown2Hate

(2,216 posts)
18. It's not AS good as it looks (and I'm not known to be the Debbie Downer; this is just math):
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 08:42 PM
Oct 2024

Let's pretend there are a total of 1,000,000 votes in MI (just picking a number; doesn't matter because the percentages work out the same no matter):

Early Vote: It says that 36% of the electorate voted already: 360,000 using our numbers above
Among them Harris leads 69% (248,400 votes) to Trump's 31% (111,600 votes).

11/05: That leaves Election day vote (or at least yet to vote) 54% of the electorate: 540,000
Among them Trump leads 59% (318,600 votes) to Harris' 41% (221,400 votes).

That totals Harris 469,800 to Trump 430,200 (approximately a 47% to 43% win for Harris).

While that's GREAT, it's not as big as it sounded without breaking it down (that and I don't know why it only adds up to 90% of the electorate, unless the other 10% is "other", which sounds unlikely).

PA is even harder to guess doing the same math (because, again, we're missing percentages; "one quarter" of the electorate that already voted versus "6 in 10" that haven't voted yet only adds up to 85%).

But, if we want to use those same numbers (and the same 1,000,000 voters total for PA), here we go:

Early Vote: It says that 25% of the electorate voted already: 250,000 using our numbers above
Among them Harris leads 67.5% (168,750 votes) to Trump's 32.5% (81,250 votes).

11/05: That leaves Election day vote (or at least yet to vote) 60% of the electorate: 600,000
Among them Trump leads 56% (336,000 votes) to Harris' 44% (264,000 votes).

That totals to Harris 432,750 to Trump 417,250 (approximately a 51% to 49% win for Harris).

AGAIN, I have no idea why the electorate doesn't add up to 100% in either case, but still appears to be good news for Harris, just not SPECTACULAR news. Note that this is all napkin math; don't hold me to it, but it's close.

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