We are giving up the narrative

[edisdead]

In many speeches I hear people talking about what trump is going to do if he wins. This is a mistake. We need to talk about what we are going to do and stop putting the idea of trump in the white house in peoples minds at all.

[Ocelot II]

1. Oh, gosh, I haven't heard Harris say a single thing about what she's going to do,

except maybe three or four times a fucking day.

[edisdead]

5. Not the point and not specific to her

Our surrogates keep talking about what Trump is going ti do. Not what he will do. Phrasing and messaging are subtle, and this is terrible prashing.

Yes we need to talk about what we will do but need ti stop talking about what he is going to do.

[Initech]

11. Literally EVERY other post on my social media feed is about Turdburglar.

I am sick of it. I want to see what Kamala plans to do, not Trump saying or doing something stupid and his stupid cult fawning over him.

[edisdead]

15. Yep.

[Initech]

22. I also want those stupid Hill articles to go away.

No, I don't give a flying fuck what Trump would have / could have / should have done. He had the chance, he didn't do any of those things! Fucking stop it already! And he's not the president.

[Dennis Donovan]

2. I simply don't entertain the thought of him winning.

Besides, the old-timers like Carville and Prof Lichtman are calling it for the VP.

[edisdead]

7. That is a candy for the nerves for sure.

[BannonsLiver]

3. lol

🙄

[TwilightZone]

4. Haha, no.

Contrasting our candidate with the other guy is part of the equation in every election, especially when it's someone as abhorrent as Trump.

Harris has always done both. Contrast with what Trump would do and expound on what she would do.

[edisdead]

6. I didn't say She. I said We.

As in her surrogates.

[TwilightZone]

13. That's a distinction without a difference.

The message of surrogates is the message of the campaign.

If you're talking solely about DU, then I'd agree with you to some degree. We hyper-obsess about Trump to our detriment, and I think we'd be better served by discussing topics like how to volunteer to drive people to the polls and so on.

But that's not who (the royal) we are. Obsessing is kind of in our nature.

That being said, what we say here ultimately matters little. DU is a niche website and our influence is limited. What we do outside of DU is more likely to have an impact.

[edisdead]

16. No it isn't

Are you Kamala Harris? No? Ok there is a big difference.

[TwilightZone]

17. If you want to pretend that Trump is all that is being discussed, feel free.

The assertion is ridiculous, but whatever.

Have a nice day.

[DeepWinter]

8. Completely agree

Once you stop talking about yourself and start talking about the other person, I figure you have so little to offer you got nothing left. Tell me about YOU. Otherwise I keep looking.

[Basso8vb]

10. She has been very clear about her vision and plans.

No idea what speeches you're watching.

[Deuxcents]

12. TSF hasn't stopped talking about himself.

Everyone I know wishes he’d stfu

[Basso8vb]

9. That's a part of her stump speech.

She lays out her vision clearly every time.

[bigtree]

14. 'we'

...do you know how detached this sounds from what we've been hearing from the actual campaign and supporters?

You look to have taken what sounds like a snippet out of what have been very comprehensive appeals from all quarters.

It's just a myopic mischaracterization of the campaign and the people supporting VP Harris.

In this complaint, YOU have ignored the 'narrative' that I've been hearing, and is clearly been expressed by the candidate.

How about posting that, instead?

[edisdead]

18. Ok maybe yer right.

I feel differently.

I keep hearing what Trump IS going to do.

In people’s minds that puts inti their psyche that he IS going to win. That tempers enthusiasm.

I have seen this show before. We need to stop phrasing that supports the idea that he IS going to win.

[TwilightZone]

19. This.

[Johnny2X2X]

20. Like 60% of the votes have alreday been cast

Not a lot to change at this point.

[mopinko]

21. what she/the campaign say and what the media reports- not the same.

like the majority of the posts here beefing about the campaign, i believe u r conflating the 2.
she spends plenty of time talking not just about what she is gonna do, but what she and joe have done together.
but the press is ALWAYS baiting her about sick fuck, demanding that she respond. and always framing things in ways to make it look like a bigger fight than it is. gotta keep it a horserace.
he’s going down. HARD.