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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNow the Trump campaign is walking back the Liz Cheney comments. Saying they were taken out of context.
Every fucking morning, I wake up to a tearful spouse, and it's the same thing every day. First thing: "HOW CAN HE SAY THESE THINGS"?
For pretty much an entire decade, we have been gaslighted by these assholes. We have been terrorized. We have been flabbergasted. We have been confused. And we have been damaged.
We can say that we are strong, and we sure are without a doubt, but the psyche of this country has been damaged.
We have been harmed. Anyone who thinks they are strong enough to have not been harmed is lying to themselves.
We have had a dark piece of cloth placed over our brains, affecting our mental health in ways we probably can't fully understand yet.
So to Trump, and to the Trump campaign: Fuck you and fuck everything you love.
Your hero is going to get his ass handed to him next week, and there is not a fucking thing you can do about it.
And then we can begin to heal from your hateful and juvenile antics. And you will be mocked and belittled for eternity. I have to give you assholes credit for one thing: You certainly left your mark on history.
Congratulations assholes. Get ready, because you have lost.
And then we can begin to heal. The good people can begin to heal.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)AllaN01Bear
(29,425 posts)IrishAfricanAmerican
(4,456 posts)sarchasm
(1,308 posts)So changing the AG and making it hurt would be in order IMO. Dark Brandon needs to leave a mark.
IrishAfricanAmerican
(4,456 posts)LizBeth
(11,222 posts)many call us out, say we were not "true" Democrats and stfu just makes me so mad, lol!!!
tenderfoot
(8,982 posts)Says everything you need to know.
Montauk6
(9,339 posts)Frank D. Lincoln
(894 posts)The six fascist U.S. Supreme Court justices (who could have disqualified Trump under the 14 Amendment insurrection clause)
(Double fuck) The six fascist U.S. Supreme Court justices (who enabled Trump to have presidential immunity if he gets back in)
Mike Johnson (with his fucking secret arrangement with the Orange Anus to help Trump steal the 2024 election)
Elon Musk (working 24/7 and using his immense wealth to get that monster Trump back in power)
Kevin Roberts (organizer of Project 2025)
Leonard Leo (the rat bastard who's the most responsible for getting us in this situation)
ReRe
(12,189 posts)The Federalist Society, The Heritage Foundation
and every single 501c3 that has anything to do with politics!
FakeNoose
(41,536 posts)They've got a complete asshole for a candidate who has no filter.
Chump is TRYING to get them all arrested. Hopefully he will succeed before Tuesday.
BWdem4life
(3,000 posts)Not gonna happen, Donny.. you'll have to wait till after the election (and after all 150 of your lawsuits fail).
Loser.
niyad
(132,255 posts)hateful incitements to violence?
underpants
(196,405 posts)They should check out 18 U.S. Code § 373 - Solicitation to commit a crime of violence.
it's as if he asked a hit man to shoot off rifles in her face.
If I threatened him like he did Cheney, I would be in jail.
underpants
(196,405 posts)Straight to everything being out of context.
mucifer
(25,657 posts)magicarpet
(18,490 posts)The statement was taken out of context.
What he meant was Ms. Cheney should be at a church fair kissing booth.
No harm,... no fowl,.... The Orange Menace is a harmless little angel who would never wish harm come to any of God's children.
NJCher
(43,114 posts)The Unmitigated Gall
(4,710 posts)Donald Trump Putins upper-decker.
bigtree
(94,203 posts)Trump threatened his political rival with '9 guns trained on her face.'
POLITICO @politico 2h
Cheney: Trump firing-squad threats are how dictators destroy free nations
Prairie Gates
(8,108 posts)If Johnson had an ounce of decency he would be out denouncing this shit. A Presidential candidate threatening a firing squad for a political critic? Incredible stuff.
BattleRow
(2,418 posts)Prairie Gates
(8,108 posts)Premier Trump. That's the sorta thing that could get a fella Photoshopped out of a picture.
BattleRow
(2,418 posts)Attempting to miscarry the message...
LiberalFighter
(53,544 posts)Emile
(42,196 posts)before the republican party wakes up?
Clouds Passing
(7,894 posts)BlueKota
(5,324 posts)as he is have already stood up against him, left the party, and endorsed Harris. The rest I have zero respect for. As the saying goes, "they will reap what they have sown," if he wins. He has no loyalty so if they dissatisfy him, they will be the ones in front of a firing squad he ordered.
He belongs in prison for the rest of his vile life, but unfortunately too many people were too concerned about optics, to treat him as the clear and present danger to the country that he is.
no_hypocrisy
(54,880 posts)sarcastic.
Prairie Gates
(8,108 posts)from Dick Cheney at 6:00am this morning over this shit? Like, "You better hope Trump wins, because you will NEVER fucking work in Republican politics again if I can help it." And Dick Cheney can make that happen. Whatever we might think of him, Dick Cheney is nobody to be trifled with. The MAGA diehards won't care, of course, but the hangers-on don't want that smoke.
Zambero
(9,978 posts)If this dangerous rhetoric doesn't cross a line, what does? And who would be more effective in getting GWB off his duff to assist in putting TSF in the rear view mirror?
Dick Cheney?? Michelle Obama ?? Daughter Barbara??
The damage his administration did cannot be undone, but there are things that he CAN do to make amends. If he cares even remotely about a "legacy".
Sundance1220
(285 posts)on behalf of some of the younger Bush's who may want to go into politics once depraved donnie is history.
Zambero
(9,978 posts)As far as positioning themselves goes, younger Bushes with political ambitions might have better prospects for success if they can somehow get themselves free and clear of the Orange Menace. Having "Uncle Shrub" do so as a family surrogate could accomplish that.
Aristus
(72,131 posts)Welcome to DU.
If W's daughters are any indication, if they run for public office, they may do so as Democrats.
Sundance1220
(285 posts)I've been lurking for years and when I realized I couldn't access DU with an election next week, it was time to join up. Can't imagine getting through an election without DU - so much diversity and people who have inside information in so many places. It's a treasure.
NJCher
(43,114 posts)That we know more about whats going on in politics than any other place on the internet.
Most articles and much tv commentary seems slow to us. While they were going down the road, we were coming back.
Most posters here are careful about posting the facts. Any disinformation gets called out immediately.
niyad
(132,255 posts)to come!
LisaM
(29,626 posts)HE used a partisan SCOTUS to stop the vote count. HE chose Roberts and Alito. HE is responsible for Citizens United and the dismantling of the VRA. HE got us into Afghanistan and Iraq.
If I never hear his name again, it will be too soon.
underpants
(196,405 posts)Dick is not to be trifled with especially if Trump loses and is gone. Trump has an enemies list but you dont want to be on Dicks internal GOP list.
BlueKota
(5,324 posts)Zambero
(9,978 posts)Stochastic terrorist: Say no more. We know whay you want!
a kennedy
(35,927 posts)PittBlue
(4,791 posts)Because of that monster. I cannot wait until he falls into a vat of French fries.
BattleRow
(2,418 posts)surfered
(13,361 posts)But Biden and Harris must be flawless.
BattleRow
(2,418 posts)GB_RN
(3,554 posts)I mean, when you say that you fantasize about shooting someone, in the face with a bunch of shotguns, theres nothing to TAKE out of context.
Jesus.
kentuck
(115,400 posts)That was just a number picked at random.
BWdem4life
(3,000 posts)I mean, maybe.
PCIntern
(28,348 posts)liberalla
(11,078 posts)WarGamer
(18,590 posts)dpibel
(3,917 posts)But it's been self-deleted by its author.
(Replying to a post that is subject-line only reading, "See #35." )
Farmer-Rick
(12,635 posts)"Lets put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK? Lets see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face.
When would that threat and solicitation of violence be appropriate in context? When he says it to a hit man? When he says it to a firing squad of his cult followers?
If I said that at a public event about him, I would be in jail.
ReRe
(12,189 posts)he was STALIN.
Response to LuckyCharms (Original post)
WarGamer This message was self-deleted by its author.
debm55
(60,416 posts)ChazInAz
(3,017 posts)Every day, for nearly ten years now, the first thing I do every morning is look for his obituary.
One can only take so much disappointment.
3auld6phart
(1,683 posts)Stated, you ,I and the world really and truly hope that freak goes down in flames. I know I shoul not hope he has an early demise and leaves this Vale f Tears damn soon. What atagic train wreck
peggysue2
(12,529 posts)There are some things you cannot spin. Threatening to shoot someone in the face is one of them.
Do these people even know what "putting a statement in context' means? Or is this simply for the addled-brained?
There's no limit to the mendacity!
usonian
(25,132 posts)
Dead gonna getcha.

Karadeniz
(24,745 posts)Blue_Roses
(13,869 posts)Perfectly said. The damage he's done comes out in many negative ways and it's gonna take some time to heal.
Emile
(42,196 posts)Teacher of the Year
(229 posts)Zambero
(9,978 posts)You OK with this shit, "Boss"?
spanone
(141,535 posts)Metaphorical
(2,634 posts)Making a hateful or demeaning statement, then, when enough pushback comes, saying that you didn't really mean it or it was taken out of context, or even "that's not what I said."
One of the first things that anyone in a leadership position learns is to be much more guarded about what they say. Their words have authority, and even if they may happen to believe a certain thing, actually saying it is may bring about unintended (or even intended) consequences. Case in point - King Henry II's comment - "Can someone not rid me of this meddlesome priest?" - which let to the death of Thomas Beckett, the Archbishop of Canterbury, in 1170 AD.
Trump is a master of this, as in the latest situation with Liz Cheney and as was clearly the case with Jan 6. No command is ever explicitly given, but instead, every attack is couched in deniable terms. And if something bad should happen to the target in question, well "I never said that. Obviously the person who committed the attack was mentally ill. Too bad he isn't around now to talk."
Trump is a mob boss in everything but name.
CaptainTruth
(8,197 posts)RecoveringJournalist
(232 posts)Assuming tRUMP gets his azz handed to him Tuesday, he and his followers will still be screaming after the election is over. Expect more hateful rhetoric. Expect threats. Expect some Jan. 6 type of BS. Everyone should be prepared for it.
Mz Pip
(28,441 posts)Is it okay for a presidential candidate to talk like this?
central scrutinizer
(12,653 posts)Ronald Reagan.
Joinfortmill
(21,103 posts)twodogsbarking
(18,705 posts)Response to LuckyCharms (Original post)
Skittles This message was self-deleted by its author.
SleeplessinSoCal
(10,411 posts)I needed that.
generalbetrayus
(1,830 posts)Unfortunately, I will have to go completely deaf rather than hearing impaired for that to happen. Those words are simply code for "I meant exactly what I said, but I gotta pretend I didn't."
Montauk6
(9,339 posts)markie
(24,010 posts)to god's ears
you're a good man Lucky