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LuckyCharms

(22,591 posts)
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 11:17 AM Nov 2024

Now the Trump campaign is walking back the Liz Cheney comments. Saying they were taken out of context.

Every fucking morning, I wake up to a tearful spouse, and it's the same thing every day. First thing: "HOW CAN HE SAY THESE THINGS"?

For pretty much an entire decade, we have been gaslighted by these assholes. We have been terrorized. We have been flabbergasted. We have been confused. And we have been damaged.

We can say that we are strong, and we sure are without a doubt, but the psyche of this country has been damaged.

We have been harmed. Anyone who thinks they are strong enough to have not been harmed is lying to themselves.

We have had a dark piece of cloth placed over our brains, affecting our mental health in ways we probably can't fully understand yet.

So to Trump, and to the Trump campaign: Fuck you and fuck everything you love.

Your hero is going to get his ass handed to him next week, and there is not a fucking thing you can do about it.

And then we can begin to heal from your hateful and juvenile antics. And you will be mocked and belittled for eternity. I have to give you assholes credit for one thing: You certainly left your mark on history.

Congratulations assholes. Get ready, because you have lost.

And then we can begin to heal. The good people can begin to heal.

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Now the Trump campaign is walking back the Liz Cheney comments. Saying they were taken out of context. (Original Post) LuckyCharms Nov 2024 OP
Fuck you merick garland. Fuck all the way off: onecaliberal Nov 2024 #1
i hope ms harris replaces him, pronto AllaN01Bear Nov 2024 #2
I hope Biden does it on Nov. 6. IrishAfricanAmerican Nov 2024 #25
After all, he has double secret super duper immunity powers now. sarchasm Nov 2024 #41
Exactly! IrishAfricanAmerican Nov 2024 #62
This is one that makes me mad, just one of many. We knew way back when and having so LizBeth Nov 2024 #30
It is said that Garland is good friends with many of TFG's lawyers tenderfoot Nov 2024 #48
MG's a tad too cozy with the Federalist Society for my tastes, just sayin'... Montauk6 Nov 2024 #54
Added to that, fuck Frank D. Lincoln Nov 2024 #61
And ABOLISH ReRe Nov 2024 #75
Well of course they are ... what else can they do? FakeNoose Nov 2024 #3
I think he's trying to get himself arrested too. BWdem4life Nov 2024 #26
In what fucking possible context could those statements NOT be niyad Nov 2024 #4
No kidding. underpants Nov 2024 #7
Exactly Farmer-Rick Nov 2024 #32
They've abandoned He didn't say it....he was joking....Well you just don't understand... underpants Nov 2024 #5
such funny jokes he tells mucifer Nov 2024 #15
They are saying djt said Ms. Cheney should be put infront of a firing squad. magicarpet Nov 2024 #57
A church fair kissing booth NJCher Nov 2024 #77
(skid)mark on history. The Unmitigated Gall Nov 2024 #6
no they weren't bigtree Nov 2024 #8
Kudos to Liz Cheney for having more spine than almost the entire Republican Party Prairie Gates Nov 2024 #14
Johnson's Johnson could possibly on the firing line,too,if he fails to kiss Trump's "ring". BattleRow Nov 2024 #21
He did announce that he would dismantle the ACA before that statement was cleared by Prairie Gates Nov 2024 #46
He's learning that you can't be a little bit pregnant.. BattleRow Nov 2024 #51
Johnson has never had a spine. LiberalFighter Nov 2024 #67
How many times does this asshole have to lose Emile Nov 2024 #9
They'll never wake up. They hate woke! Clouds Passing Nov 2024 #22
The only Republicans who aren't just as rabidly vicious BlueKota Nov 2024 #63
He also likes, "It was satire." Or "I was being no_hypocrisy Nov 2024 #10
Can you imagine the borderline normie GOPers on the Trump campaign getting a phone call Prairie Gates Nov 2024 #11
And Dubya?? Zambero Nov 2024 #16
I think Dubya is remaining quiet Sundance1220 Nov 2024 #19
You might be correct there Zambero Nov 2024 #29
Haven't heard from that weasel George P. Bush in a while. I wonder if he has folded his political tent. Aristus Nov 2024 #44
Thanks for the welcome Sundance1220 Nov 2024 #50
You will find NJCher Nov 2024 #78
Welcome to our DU family. You are just in time for all the fun/ insanity/horror niyad Nov 2024 #74
Dubya bears a lot of responsibility for this. LisaM Nov 2024 #49
You nailed it. underpants Nov 2024 #17
Sic em Darth Cheney BlueKota Nov 2024 #64
Trump campaign: Out of context! Zambero Nov 2024 #12
And like that's as bad as calling them garbage...... a kennedy Nov 2024 #13
I just told my husband that we have had so much joy stolen from us the last ten years... PittBlue Nov 2024 #18
What if Joe Biden had said this?OR Kamala Harris? BattleRow Nov 2024 #20
Trump is allowed a different standard. He can be lawless surfered Nov 2024 #28
And clawless.. BattleRow Nov 2024 #34
Nothing Was Taken Out Of Context... GB_RN Nov 2024 #23
He didn't really mean nine rifles as in an execution... kentuck Nov 2024 #24
Uh huh. BWdem4life Nov 2024 #27
I'll drink to THAT!!! PCIntern Nov 2024 #31
What would be the proper context? liberalla Nov 2024 #33
see #35 WarGamer Nov 2024 #38
I'd love to! dpibel Nov 2024 #58
Exactly Farmer-Rick Nov 2024 #42
The context would be appropriate if ReRe Nov 2024 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Nov 2024 #35
Excellent post. LuckyCharms. debm55 Nov 2024 #36
Isn't it past his grave time? ChazInAz Nov 2024 #37
Well 3auld6phart Nov 2024 #39
Oh dear, God! peggysue2 Nov 2024 #40
Words have consequences. Words kill. usonian Nov 2024 #43
Well said !!! Karadeniz Nov 2024 #45
So true! Blue_Roses Nov 2024 #47
Time to lock the bastard up! Emile Nov 2024 #52
Did Dick Cheney stand up for his daughter? Teacher of the Year Nov 2024 #53
Such as giving Dubya a wake-up call? Zambero Nov 2024 #80
Too late. spanone Nov 2024 #55
Definition of Gaslighting Metaphorical Nov 2024 #56
Well said!!! CaptainTruth Nov 2024 #59
Be Ready RecoveringJournalist Nov 2024 #60
What context Mz Pip Nov 2024 #65
"When you're explaining, you're losing" central scrutinizer Nov 2024 #66
Amen. Joinfortmill Nov 2024 #68
There is no "unfuck you". You said it, you wear it. Thems the rules. twodogsbarking Nov 2024 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Nov 2024 #70
Thanks for your post. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2024 #71
"Taken out of context" are four words I never want to hear again in my life. generalbetrayus Nov 2024 #72
This is great! KEEP those dingbats on the defensive! Montauk6 Nov 2024 #73
from your lips... markie Nov 2024 #79

sarchasm

(1,308 posts)
41. After all, he has double secret super duper immunity powers now.
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 01:18 PM
Nov 2024

So changing the AG and making it hurt would be in order IMO. Dark Brandon needs to leave a mark.

LizBeth

(11,222 posts)
30. This is one that makes me mad, just one of many. We knew way back when and having so
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 12:49 PM
Nov 2024

many call us out, say we were not "true" Democrats and stfu just makes me so mad, lol!!!

 

tenderfoot

(8,982 posts)
48. It is said that Garland is good friends with many of TFG's lawyers
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 01:39 PM
Nov 2024

Says everything you need to know.

Frank D. Lincoln

(894 posts)
61. Added to that, fuck
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 02:38 PM
Nov 2024
Mitch McConnell (who could have stopped Trump dead in his tracks immediately after J6)

The six fascist U.S. Supreme Court justices (who could have disqualified Trump under the 14 Amendment insurrection clause)

(Double fuck) The six fascist U.S. Supreme Court justices (who enabled Trump to have presidential immunity if he gets back in)

Mike Johnson (with his fucking secret arrangement with the Orange Anus to help Trump steal the 2024 election)

Elon Musk (working 24/7 and using his immense wealth to get that monster Trump back in power)

Kevin Roberts (organizer of Project 2025)

Leonard Leo (the rat bastard who's the most responsible for getting us in this situation)

ReRe

(12,189 posts)
75. And ABOLISH
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 02:27 AM
Nov 2024

The Federalist Society, The Heritage Foundation

and every single 501c3 that has anything to do with politics!

FakeNoose

(41,536 posts)
3. Well of course they are ... what else can they do?
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 11:20 AM
Nov 2024

They've got a complete asshole for a candidate who has no filter.
Chump is TRYING to get them all arrested. Hopefully he will succeed before Tuesday.

BWdem4life

(3,000 posts)
26. I think he's trying to get himself arrested too.
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 12:44 PM
Nov 2024

Not gonna happen, Donny.. you'll have to wait till after the election (and after all 150 of your lawsuits fail).

Loser.

niyad

(132,255 posts)
4. In what fucking possible context could those statements NOT be
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 11:21 AM
Nov 2024

hateful incitements to violence?

Farmer-Rick

(12,635 posts)
32. Exactly
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 12:52 PM
Nov 2024

They should check out 18 U.S. Code § 373 - Solicitation to commit a crime of violence.

it's as if he asked a hit man to shoot off rifles in her face.

If I threatened him like he did Cheney, I would be in jail.

underpants

(196,405 posts)
5. They've abandoned He didn't say it....he was joking....Well you just don't understand...
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 11:22 AM
Nov 2024

Straight to everything being out of context.

magicarpet

(18,490 posts)
57. They are saying djt said Ms. Cheney should be put infront of a firing squad.
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 02:21 PM
Nov 2024

The statement was taken out of context.

What he meant was Ms. Cheney should be at a church fair kissing booth.

No harm,... no fowl,.... The Orange Menace is a harmless little angel who would never wish harm come to any of God's children.





bigtree

(94,203 posts)
8. no they weren't
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 11:23 AM
Nov 2024

Trump threatened his political rival with '9 guns trained on her face.'

POLITICO @politico 2h
Cheney: Trump firing-squad threats are ‘how dictators destroy free nations’

Prairie Gates

(8,108 posts)
14. Kudos to Liz Cheney for having more spine than almost the entire Republican Party
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 11:30 AM
Nov 2024

If Johnson had an ounce of decency he would be out denouncing this shit. A Presidential candidate threatening a firing squad for a political critic? Incredible stuff.

BattleRow

(2,418 posts)
21. Johnson's Johnson could possibly on the firing line,too,if he fails to kiss Trump's "ring".
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 12:16 PM
Nov 2024

Prairie Gates

(8,108 posts)
46. He did announce that he would dismantle the ACA before that statement was cleared by
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 01:36 PM
Nov 2024

Premier Trump. That's the sorta thing that could get a fella Photoshopped out of a picture.

BattleRow

(2,418 posts)
51. He's learning that you can't be a little bit pregnant..
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 01:51 PM
Nov 2024

Attempting to miscarry the message...

BlueKota

(5,324 posts)
63. The only Republicans who aren't just as rabidly vicious
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 02:54 PM
Nov 2024

as he is have already stood up against him, left the party, and endorsed Harris. The rest I have zero respect for. As the saying goes, "they will reap what they have sown," if he wins. He has no loyalty so if they dissatisfy him, they will be the ones in front of a firing squad he ordered.

He belongs in prison for the rest of his vile life, but unfortunately too many people were too concerned about optics, to treat him as the clear and present danger to the country that he is.

Prairie Gates

(8,108 posts)
11. Can you imagine the borderline normie GOPers on the Trump campaign getting a phone call
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 11:28 AM
Nov 2024

from Dick Cheney at 6:00am this morning over this shit? Like, "You better hope Trump wins, because you will NEVER fucking work in Republican politics again if I can help it." And Dick Cheney can make that happen. Whatever we might think of him, Dick Cheney is nobody to be trifled with. The MAGA diehards won't care, of course, but the hangers-on don't want that smoke.

Zambero

(9,978 posts)
16. And Dubya??
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 11:34 AM
Nov 2024

If this dangerous rhetoric doesn't cross a line, what does? And who would be more effective in getting GWB off his duff to assist in putting TSF in the rear view mirror?
Dick Cheney?? Michelle Obama ?? Daughter Barbara??
The damage his administration did cannot be undone, but there are things that he CAN do to make amends. If he cares even remotely about a "legacy".

 

Sundance1220

(285 posts)
19. I think Dubya is remaining quiet
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 12:08 PM
Nov 2024

on behalf of some of the younger Bush's who may want to go into politics once depraved donnie is history.

Zambero

(9,978 posts)
29. You might be correct there
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 12:49 PM
Nov 2024

As far as positioning themselves goes, younger Bushes with political ambitions might have better prospects for success if they can somehow get themselves free and clear of the Orange Menace. Having "Uncle Shrub" do so as a family surrogate could accomplish that.

Aristus

(72,131 posts)
44. Haven't heard from that weasel George P. Bush in a while. I wonder if he has folded his political tent.
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 01:26 PM
Nov 2024

Welcome to DU.

If W's daughters are any indication, if they run for public office, they may do so as Democrats.

 

Sundance1220

(285 posts)
50. Thanks for the welcome
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 01:47 PM
Nov 2024

I've been lurking for years and when I realized I couldn't access DU with an election next week, it was time to join up. Can't imagine getting through an election without DU - so much diversity and people who have inside information in so many places. It's a treasure.

NJCher

(43,114 posts)
78. You will find
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 05:23 AM
Nov 2024

That we know more about what’s going on in politics than any other place on the internet.

Most articles and much tv commentary seems slow to us. While they were going down the road, we were coming back.

Most posters here are careful about posting the facts. Any disinformation gets called out immediately.

niyad

(132,255 posts)
74. Welcome to our DU family. You are just in time for all the fun/ insanity/horror
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 01:00 AM
Nov 2024

to come!

LisaM

(29,626 posts)
49. Dubya bears a lot of responsibility for this.
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 01:40 PM
Nov 2024

HE used a partisan SCOTUS to stop the vote count. HE chose Roberts and Alito. HE is responsible for Citizens United and the dismantling of the VRA. HE got us into Afghanistan and Iraq.

If I never hear his name again, it will be too soon.

underpants

(196,405 posts)
17. You nailed it.
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 11:35 AM
Nov 2024

Dick is not to be trifled with especially if Trump loses and is gone. Trump has an enemies list but you don’t want to be on Dick’s internal GOP list.

a kennedy

(35,927 posts)
13. And like that's as bad as calling them garbage......
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 11:30 AM
Nov 2024
I so totally despise him and all the pukes around him, and all his damn MAGA fans as well. I JUST WANT HIM GONE.

PittBlue

(4,791 posts)
18. I just told my husband that we have had so much joy stolen from us the last ten years...
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 11:39 AM
Nov 2024

Because of that monster. I cannot wait until he falls into a vat of French fries.

surfered

(13,361 posts)
28. Trump is allowed a different standard. He can be lawless
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 12:49 PM
Nov 2024

But Biden and Harris must be flawless.

GB_RN

(3,554 posts)
23. Nothing Was Taken Out Of Context...
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 12:21 PM
Nov 2024

I mean, when you say that you fantasize about shooting someone, in the face with a bunch of shotguns, there’s nothing to TAKE out of context.

Jesus.

kentuck

(115,400 posts)
24. He didn't really mean nine rifles as in an execution...
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 12:24 PM
Nov 2024

That was just a number picked at random.

dpibel

(3,917 posts)
58. I'd love to!
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 02:26 PM
Nov 2024

But it's been self-deleted by its author.

(Replying to a post that is subject-line only reading, "See #35." )

Farmer-Rick

(12,635 posts)
42. Exactly
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 01:19 PM
Nov 2024

"Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK?” Let’s see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face.”

When would that threat and solicitation of violence be appropriate in context? When he says it to a hit man? When he says it to a firing squad of his cult followers?

If I said that at a public event about him, I would be in jail.

Response to LuckyCharms (Original post)

ChazInAz

(3,017 posts)
37. Isn't it past his grave time?
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 01:00 PM
Nov 2024

Every day, for nearly ten years now, the first thing I do every morning is look for his obituary.
One can only take so much disappointment.

3auld6phart

(1,683 posts)
39. Well
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 01:02 PM
Nov 2024

Stated, you ,I and the world really and truly hope that freak goes down in flames. I know I shoul not hope he has an early demise and leaves this Vale f Tears damn soon. What atagic train wreck

peggysue2

(12,529 posts)
40. Oh dear, God!
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 01:02 PM
Nov 2024

There are some things you cannot spin. Threatening to shoot someone in the face is one of them.

Do these people even know what "putting a statement in context' means? Or is this simply for the addled-brained?

There's no limit to the mendacity!

Blue_Roses

(13,869 posts)
47. So true!
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 01:39 PM
Nov 2024

Perfectly said. The damage he's done comes out in many negative ways and it's gonna take some time to heal.

Metaphorical

(2,634 posts)
56. Definition of Gaslighting
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 02:13 PM
Nov 2024

Making a hateful or demeaning statement, then, when enough pushback comes, saying that you didn't really mean it or it was taken out of context, or even "that's not what I said."

One of the first things that anyone in a leadership position learns is to be much more guarded about what they say. Their words have authority, and even if they may happen to believe a certain thing, actually saying it is may bring about unintended (or even intended) consequences. Case in point - King Henry II's comment - "Can someone not rid me of this meddlesome priest?" - which let to the death of Thomas Beckett, the Archbishop of Canterbury, in 1170 AD.

Trump is a master of this, as in the latest situation with Liz Cheney and as was clearly the case with Jan 6. No command is ever explicitly given, but instead, every attack is couched in deniable terms. And if something bad should happen to the target in question, well "I never said that. Obviously the person who committed the attack was mentally ill. Too bad he isn't around now to talk."

Trump is a mob boss in everything but name.

60. Be Ready
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 02:30 PM
Nov 2024

Assuming tRUMP gets his azz handed to him Tuesday, he and his followers will still be screaming after the election is over. Expect more hateful rhetoric. Expect threats. Expect some Jan. 6 type of BS. Everyone should be prepared for it.

Response to LuckyCharms (Original post)

generalbetrayus

(1,830 posts)
72. "Taken out of context" are four words I never want to hear again in my life.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 12:12 AM
Nov 2024

Unfortunately, I will have to go completely deaf rather than hearing impaired for that to happen. Those words are simply code for "I meant exactly what I said, but I gotta pretend I didn't."

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