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sarisataka

(22,696 posts)
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 12:52 PM Nov 2024

Aging spacecraft starts up a radio transmitter it hasn't used since 1981 from 15 billion miles away

Aging spacecraft starts up a radio transmitter it hasn’t used since 1981 from 15 billion miles away

The 47-year-old Voyager 1 spacecraft is back in touch with NASA — but not out of the woods — after a technical issue caused a days-long communications blackout with the historic mission, which is billions of miles away in interstellar space.

Voyager 1 is now using a radio transmitter it hasn’t relied on since 1981 to stay in contact with its team on Earth while engineers work to understand what went wrong.

As the spacecraft, launched in September 1977, ages, the team has slowly turned off components to conserve power, allowing Voyager 1 to send back unique science data from 15 billion miles (24 billion kilometers) away.

The probe is the farthest spacecraft from Earth, operating beyond the heliosphere — the sun’s bubble of magnetic fields and particles that extends well beyond Pluto’s orbit — where its instruments directly sample interstellar space.

The new issue is one of several the aging vehicle has faced in recent months, but Voyager’s team keeps finding creative solutions so the storied explorer can zoom along on its cosmic journey through uncharted territory.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/01/science/voyager-1-transmitter-issue/index.html

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Aging spacecraft starts up a radio transmitter it hasn't used since 1981 from 15 billion miles away (Original Post) sarisataka Nov 2024 OP
We believed in science back in 1977. sinkingfeeling Nov 2024 #1
(Solly whispers V'Ger) Solly Mack Nov 2024 #2
I did too! Stuckinthebush Nov 2024 #8
It was only logical. :) Solly Mack Nov 2024 #9
The absolute 1st thought that came into my head... WinstonSmith4740 Nov 2024 #16
It is! I got a little thrill reading it. Solly Mack Nov 2024 #19
Yes. V'Ger. murielm99 Nov 2024 #29
:) Solly Mack Nov 2024 #32
Those who know, know... electric_blue68 Nov 2024 #31
Heh! Solly Mack Nov 2024 #33
Endorsed RecoveringJournalist Nov 2024 #55
Gone too soon. Solly Mack Nov 2024 #56
First thought! MuseRider Nov 2024 #57
Yep! How could it not be? (for those of us of a certain age and of certain likes) Solly Mack Nov 2024 #58
Hey back! MuseRider Nov 2024 #61
And remember... Enter stage left Nov 2024 #3
And it has a 1970s version of a microprocessor. lastlib Nov 2024 #13
Instruments of Voyager... Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2024 #22
Powered by the Energizer Bunny! Enter stage left Nov 2024 #44
Radioisotope Power System Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2024 #46
Bring back NASA, orthoclad Nov 2024 #4
Where did NASA go? AZ8theist Nov 2024 #18
Nixon cut funding, then Rotten Ronnie damaged it, and it's been underfunded for years. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2024 #21
It was at its height in 1966. former9thward Nov 2024 #48
A guy I know is running it now. DFW Nov 2024 #23
Oh come on, spill... tavernier Nov 2024 #59
I guess my efforts to avoid it aren't working............ DFW Nov 2024 #62
NASA links... Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2024 #20
Thanks orthoclad Nov 2024 #47
I'm happy my tax dollars are spent on worthwhile projects like this..definitely got our money's worth Deuxcents Nov 2024 #27
When I hear stuff like this... GopherGal Nov 2024 #39
Perhaps another civilization edhopper Nov 2024 #5
What could possibly odins folly Nov 2024 #15
they hear and see the transmissions from TSF and stay far away verargert Nov 2024 #30
There was an "X-Files" episode that was somewhat like that... keep_left Nov 2024 #42
Star Trek the Motion Picture edhopper Nov 2024 #43
We are finding out so much so fast, it's pretty overwhelming ismnotwasm Nov 2024 #6
This is so cool..They just science the heck out of it....nt mitch96 Nov 2024 #7
This is just amazing..... and every time I hear about Voyageur, Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #10
Great movie. I have it on VHS. NT mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2024 #26
How appropriate central scrutinizer Nov 2024 #38
rec progressoid Nov 2024 #11
Billions and billions of miles! Pinback Nov 2024 #12
Somewhere Carl Sagan is smiling Blue Owl Nov 2024 #35
Oh I absolutely love him! MorbidButterflyTat Nov 2024 #37
Dedicated to Voyager I & II: lastlib Nov 2024 #14
23 hours to transmit a message each way. Emile Nov 2024 #17
Of course I need to this irisblue Nov 2024 #24
Of course! Lotta people didn't like that movie but I did. electric_blue68 Nov 2024 #41
You just can't beat Radio Shack. NT mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2024 #25
"D" batteries I bet. twodogsbarking Nov 2024 #28
It wanted to wish Jimmy Carter a belated happy 100th birthday Qutzupalotl Nov 2024 #34
V'ger ... wow... I've been a space program booster since Sputnik Hekate Nov 2024 #36
Wired article from 2013, "Interstellar 8-Track" ... Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2024 #40
This is actually wonderful Hekate Nov 2024 #49
Somewhat later than Sputnik for me... electric_blue68 Nov 2024 #51
I was really quite little when Sputnik orbited. We got a parakeet about that time & I named it... Hekate Nov 2024 #53
Cool! And a parakeet. 🧡 electric_blue68 Nov 2024 #54
Awww...I named my very first car after her. nolabear Nov 2024 #45
It'll be the only way we can communicate with deep space GenThePerservering Nov 2024 #50
According to my calculations.. Permanut Nov 2024 #52
The 1960s and 1970s, that's when we (as a country) built stuff that lasts. 4lbs Nov 2024 #60

Solly Mack

(96,945 posts)
58. Yep! How could it not be? (for those of us of a certain age and of certain likes)
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 10:48 AM
Nov 2024

Hey Muse!

lastlib

(28,286 posts)
13. And it has a 1970s version of a microprocessor.
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 02:23 PM
Nov 2024

There's gotta be a thousand transistors in that thing! And maybe 4k of RAM.


.


( sorry, V'ger)
to ya. You're quite the machine!

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
46. Radioisotope Power System
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 09:47 PM
Nov 2024
https://science.nasa.gov/mission/voyager/instruments/

Radioisotope Power System (RPS)

Status: As of 2023, the twin Voyagers' RTGs are in stable operation at 225 We.

Three radioisotope thermoelectric generator units (RTGs), electrically parallel-connected, are the central power sources for the mission module. Each RTG is made up of a radioisotope heat source, a thermoelectric converter, a gas pressure venting system, temperature transducers, connectors, a heat rejecting cylindrical container, and bracketry. The RTGs are mounted in tandem (end-to-end) on a deployable boom as part of the MM.

The heat source radioisotopic fuel is Plutonium-238 in the form of the oxide Pu02. In the isotopic decay process, alpha particles are released which bombard the inner surface of the container. The energy released is converted to heat and is the source of heat to the thermoelectric converter.

DFW

(60,209 posts)
23. A guy I know is running it now.
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 02:38 PM
Nov 2024

I talked to him at the beginning of the year, and he seemed be rather sure that NASA was still there. Way back when, he even went "up there."

DFW

(60,209 posts)
62. I guess my efforts to avoid it aren't working............
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 12:38 PM
Nov 2024


Bill has been a regular attendee at the New Year's Renaissance Weekend gatherings in Charleston, SC for many years, so if I said I didn't know him, no one would believe me anyway.

Deuxcents

(26,952 posts)
27. I'm happy my tax dollars are spent on worthwhile projects like this..definitely got our money's worth
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 02:58 PM
Nov 2024

GopherGal

(2,910 posts)
39. When I hear stuff like this...
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 07:11 PM
Nov 2024

I have my own little "Proud to be an American" moment.
No apologies (at all) to that MAGAt Lee Greenwood.

Good ole American ingenuity to make the thing in the first place.
And more of it to keep it communicating years after they originally thought it would be dead in the water.

keep_left

(3,211 posts)
42. There was an "X-Files" episode that was somewhat like that...
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 08:41 PM
Nov 2024
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Green_Men_%28The_X-Files%29

(Sorry about the formatting; Wiki links often cause problems with the DU software).

Jack Valentino

(5,045 posts)
10. This is just amazing..... and every time I hear about Voyageur,
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 02:03 PM
Nov 2024

I want to go watch "Starman" again... lol

Pinback

(13,602 posts)
12. Billions and billions of miles!
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 02:19 PM
Nov 2024


So amazing — sometimes living in the present feels like living in the future.

electric_blue68

(26,878 posts)
41. Of course! Lotta people didn't like that movie but I did.
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 08:05 PM
Nov 2024

Thought it was a very clever premise.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
36. V'ger ... wow... I've been a space program booster since Sputnik
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 05:35 PM
Nov 2024

🖖🏽. 🪐 💫 🖖🏽

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
40. Wired article from 2013, "Interstellar 8-Track" ...
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 07:48 PM
Nov 2024
https://www.wired.com/2013/09/vintage-voyager-probes/

Interstellar 8-Track: How Voyager's Vintage Tech Keeps Running

The computers aboard the Voyager probes each have 69.63 kilobytes of memory, total. That’s about enough to store one average internet jpeg file. The probes’ scientific data is encoded on old-fashioned digital 8-track tape machines rather than whatever solid state drive your high-end laptop is currently using. Once it's been transmitted to Earth, the spacecraft have to write over old data in order to have enough room for new observations.

The Voyager machines are capable of executing about 81,000 instructions per second. The smart phone that is likely sitting in your pocket is probably about 7,500 times faster than that. They transmit their data back to Earth at 160 bits per second. A slow dial-up connection can deliver at least 20,000 bits per second.

The Voyager probes are always sending out a signal. Voyager 1 has a 22.4-Watt transmitter – something equivalent to a refrigerator light bulb – but by the time its beacon reaches us, the power has been reduced to roughly 0.1 billion-billionth of a Watt. NASA has to use its largest antenna, a 70-meter dish, or combine two 34-meter antennas, just to hear Voyager.

electric_blue68

(26,878 posts)
51. Somewhat later than Sputnik for me...
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 02:06 AM
Nov 2024

wheeling those 6ft or so high TV stands into our grade school classrooms to watch the Mercury programs lift offs. 👍

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
53. I was really quite little when Sputnik orbited. We got a parakeet about that time & I named it...
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 02:48 AM
Nov 2024

…Sputnik because it flew in circles when let out of the cage.

With all the F&SF in the house as I grew up I really wanted to Go Where No Girl Had Gone Before.

GenThePerservering

(3,391 posts)
50. It'll be the only way we can communicate with deep space
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 01:14 AM
Nov 2024

since aliens probably roll up the windows and keep going when they go past earth.

Permanut

(8,393 posts)
52. According to my calculations..
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 02:26 AM
Nov 2024

based on the original $900 million cost, that's about five cents a mile.

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
60. The 1960s and 1970s, that's when we (as a country) built stuff that lasts.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 11:08 AM
Nov 2024

A VERY LONG TIME.

I still have my analog turntable and stereo from the 1960s, a Pioneer model that my father purchased back then. Wood-grained side panels and everything. No matter.

Still Works.

I have an "old" 8-track tape player from the 1970s. Still works. I have 8-track tapes that still work too.

I also have an "old" early 1981 AM/FM stereo/turntable combo unit (with headphone jack) that my parents bought me when I was in Junior High. Still works. Manufacture date on the back states Nov 1979.

In fact, all my A/V units have 1/4" headphone jacks (remember those?) built-in, and still work.

EDIT: I also have an "old" B&W 13-inch TV with rabbit-ear antennae. CRT tube and dial knobs. Still Works, although it is difficult to get anything other than local stations. (The channel selector knob only goes up to 20). At the time, I used it for my old 8-bit computer (before even the IBM PC was invented).

Whenever someone cries out that their ~ $300 "electronic toy" crapped out after about a year, I silently laugh to myself.






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