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ibegurpard

(17,081 posts)
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 03:00 PM Nov 2024

Regardless of the outcome Tuesday

Democrats must find a way to get the word out about what their priorities are, what they accomplish, and how bad Republicans are.
I think the mistake of the Biden years was to assume that good policy would be just taken at face value... especially with a hostile media.
This is going to have to be a constant drumbeat and not confined to the lead up to elections.
How do we do this in the face of Elon's Twitter, the Bezos Post and Fox News (and so much more) ?

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Regardless of the outcome Tuesday (Original Post) ibegurpard Nov 2024 OP
Bullshit. nt LexVegas Nov 2024 #1
You think we got the message through ibegurpard Nov 2024 #2
Your concern is noted....and it is two days before the election I would delete this post. Demsrule86 Nov 2024 #5
The word is out, it's been out. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #3
It's NOT out ibegurpard Nov 2024 #6
Nope, we don't have to go (stay?) on the defensive. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #8
Word is out, and a depressingly large slice of this country rejects us Amishman Nov 2024 #19
And yet there are a majority ibegurpard Nov 2024 #20
And when abortion amendments can win ibegurpard Nov 2024 #7
Yeah, like I said... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #9
HOW??? ibegurpard Nov 2024 #10
We can start by creating headwinds for them instead of.... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #12
Bullshit. Demsrule86 Nov 2024 #4
Regardless of the outcome... we need to get back to being the Progressive Party. WarGamer Nov 2024 #11
Wrong ibegurpard Nov 2024 #13
I'm talking about a problem that's a couple decades old... you didn't address it. WarGamer Nov 2024 #14
It was addressed by the Biden adminstration ibegurpard Nov 2024 #15
I don't have time to list things... that's incorrect. WarGamer Nov 2024 #16
But you do have time ibegurpard Nov 2024 #17
I'm extremely well aware of reality. WarGamer Nov 2024 #18

ibegurpard

(17,081 posts)
2. You think we got the message through
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 03:03 PM
Nov 2024

About Biden's successes? I already acknowledged the hostile media... how do we counter that?

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
5. Your concern is noted....and it is two days before the election I would delete this post.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 03:38 PM
Nov 2024

Seriously, I will trash it either way.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
3. The word is out, it's been out.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 03:26 PM
Nov 2024

What the Left has to do now is tear down those on the right that are lying, cheating, and convincing the vulnerable to vote against their own well-being.

Enough pretending WE are somehow to blame. WE are not to blame.

Let's end the republican party once and for all and start making some progress on the promise that the United State holds.

ibegurpard

(17,081 posts)
6. It's NOT out
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 03:38 PM
Nov 2024

How can we look at the successes of the Biden adminstration and then his unpopularity and come to any other conclusion?
We have a hostile press and no equivalent on our side. How do we counteract that?
Stop trying to simplify what I'm saying as a criticism of Democrats.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
8. Nope, we don't have to go (stay?) on the defensive.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 04:03 PM
Nov 2024

We just need to get a helluvalot more serious about wiping out rightwingers.

Amishman

(5,929 posts)
19. Word is out, and a depressingly large slice of this country rejects us
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 04:32 PM
Nov 2024

It boils down to this:

One party offers a future as a diverse multicultural society that is a collaborative partner with the world, with a government that is active and engaged in supporting the lifestyles of its citizens.

One party offers a nationalistic pseudo-christian monoculture, with an aloof government that that does little for the well-being of its citizens.

Simply put, an alarmingly large slice of this country doesn't want the future we are trying to build.

ibegurpard

(17,081 posts)
20. And yet there are a majority
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 04:35 PM
Nov 2024

That agree with most of our policy positions and yet continue to elect the opposite in representation.
Case in point: reproductive rights.
That's not a rejection of what we represent. It's a disconnect in tying what we believe to our representatives.

ibegurpard

(17,081 posts)
7. And when abortion amendments can win
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 03:40 PM
Nov 2024

By 60 plus margins in red states and yet their voters keep electing anti choice politicians there is a disconnect that has to be figured out.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
9. Yeah, like I said...
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 04:05 PM
Nov 2024

...it's "those on the right that are lying, cheating, and convincing the vulnerable to vote against their own well-being" that we need to eliminate.

ibegurpard

(17,081 posts)
10. HOW???
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 04:09 PM
Nov 2024

that is what I'm trying to say here!!!
We have an administration that came closer to younger people's priorities than I've ever seen yet they hated him. The message is not getting out!!!
I'm not blaming Democrats... I'm saying we have to figure out how to do it with the headwinds we face...
Because we're not getting any assistance from the media
JFC...

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
12. We can start by creating headwinds for them instead of....
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 04:19 PM
Nov 2024

....pretending we're not good enough at fighting against the headwinds they create for us.

Listen, just go batshit crazy on beating the rightwing down at any chance you get and just keep at it.

WarGamer

(18,613 posts)
11. Regardless of the outcome... we need to get back to being the Progressive Party.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 04:14 PM
Nov 2024

We've been drifting to the right for a decade and attracting neocons...

I'm old enough to remember when Democrats were pro (all of the) civil rights, anti-war and distrustful of the Justice system...

We now have more billionaire donors than the GOP, we're bleeding blue collar support and spitting on Clinton's legacy.... we're now $36T in debt and spend more money on servicing that debt than the military which is a bloated pig.

ibegurpard

(17,081 posts)
13. Wrong
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 04:21 PM
Nov 2024

The Biden adminstration has been more progressive than any adminstration in my lifetime. And yet so called progressives punished him for it because reasons.
That's not a policy problem. It's a problem of our messaging on behalf of our accomplishment and priorities not breaking through.

ibegurpard

(17,081 posts)
15. It was addressed by the Biden adminstration
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 04:26 PM
Nov 2024

Actually listening to, working with, and adopting progressive priorities.
And yet here you are acting as if the trajectory hadn't started to change and throwing out the same decades-long criticisms that were being addressed.
How do progressives expect to have their priorities taken seriously when many of them are adopted and yet they act as if nothing at all changed?

ibegurpard

(17,081 posts)
17. But you do have time
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 04:30 PM
Nov 2024

To argue generalities that fly in the face of what the Biden adminstration accomplished and tried to accomplish.
Quite frankly you are a perfect example of how we need to figure out better ways to get the truth out about what we do and believe.

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