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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump more or less admits defeat: "It's going bad.
And it can never get fixed because we're never gonna get the right people in because of what they do with the elections."
Cheato just now at his rally as covered by Aaron Rupar. How's that for a closing message?
nature-lover
(1,861 posts)ancianita
(43,307 posts)our country. It's going bad...because of what they do with the elections. We're going to get a bunch of crooks and horrible people."
None of this is admitting defeat. It's telling the crowd that the elections are corrupt. No matter what he tells them, he's setting them up to believe him when he claims his win Tuesday or Wednesday.
nature-lover
(1,861 posts)ProfessorGAC
(76,695 posts)You are, of course, correct about context.
But, I read it in a bit more defeatist way than you.
He appears to be setting up a loss as the result of cheating against him.
He wouldn't go down this path if he thought he was going to win.
So, I'm seeing more admission of defeat than you do
ancianita
(43,307 posts)I think he's a Cohen man to the end, and will go down fighting his usual fight. He could never die admitting he's a loser.
Even when he's sentenced in Manhattan, he'll stick to his narrative about being a political prisoner, like his "hostage" followers.
bluestarone
(22,177 posts)To drive his KNIFE into the heart of our country! I want this bastard in HELL, so bad!! VOTE people VOTE!!
Dem4life1234
(2,533 posts)He's full of shit.
cayugafalls
(5,960 posts)Just a hunch. I think it will believe that doing so, gives it the reason to declare widespread cheating when the truth emerges and it loses by significant margins.
Ocelot II
(130,528 posts)What we do with the elections is elect good people freely and fairly. And you can go suck on a mic.
The_Counsel
(1,757 posts)No matter how this election goes, go suck on a mic is going to be my new parting shot in any argument
somaticexperiencing
(594 posts)The_Counsel
(1,757 posts)Ocelot II gets the credit for this one. All hail Ocelot II!
niyad
(132,440 posts)dchill
(42,660 posts)ChoppinBroccoli
(3,900 posts)We want EVERYONE to vote while you want to make it difficult for people to vote.
SWBTATTReg
(26,257 posts)comes up w/.
May he rot in hell.
lame54
(39,765 posts)Not Tremendously Bad
Or
The Greatest in Bad
Or
The Baddest Ever?
He speaks the truth
dchill
(42,660 posts)TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)Nobody does bad better than I do.
somaticexperiencing
(594 posts)Seinan Sensei
(1,545 posts)Edited
Because someone else beat me to my previous comment of "Bigly Bad"
Deuxcents
(26,914 posts)Dock_Yard
(246 posts)No way to run an campaign to attract anyone beyond MAGA cultists.
He has consistently ignored most/all guidance from his "advisers".
He deserves a staggering electoral loss a-la Dukakis, but we all know the cult is too big.
How to deal with that is a massive challenge.
bucolic_frolic
(55,133 posts)helpisontheway
(5,378 posts)Captain Zero
(8,905 posts)White men can be bad about getting to the polls. If they think it's already lost, a lot of them may not go vote. That's ok with us if they don't.
helpisontheway
(5,378 posts)dchill
(42,660 posts)Ocelot II
(130,528 posts)dalton99a
(94,115 posts)ShazzieB
(22,582 posts)...over and over and over again!
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peggysue2
(12,532 posts)Vote for me this one time and you'll never need to vote again. We'll fix it.
NO!
The American public is going to fix you and the Flying Monkey Brigade.
CTyankee
(68,200 posts)Xavier Breath
(6,640 posts)and he just can't hide it. He haz a sad.
CTyankee
(68,200 posts)senseandsensibility
(24,973 posts)that sounds like it could be true.
Prairie Gates
(8,155 posts)And Carter and his people knew it was over as of that Sunday. They were cautiously optmistic until the closing week, and then the final weekend were sure they'd been wiped out. Maybe we're seeing something similar here? I dunno seems like it would have showed up in some manner in the latest polling but with the exception of that Iowa poll (which would be consistent with a late collapse), the polls seem like they're still deadlocked.
moonscape
(5,722 posts)is happening in red states, besides Iowa - that Kamala is down by less in Kansas, up 12 in Nebraska 2, down by less in Ohio.
I see it as a positive omen for battlegrounds.
oswaldactedalone
(3,603 posts)that gets overlooked is that John Anderson ran a strong 3rd party campaign where at one point he was polling in the low 20s. Although he only got about 7% of the vote, nearly all those wouldve gone to Carter.
Another thing that skewed the Presidential vote totals was that states were often called by the networks hours before polls closed in those states. Carter Reagan was called if my memory serves about 8pm on election night. Once it was called, many Carter voters went home without voting when they heard the news. That was the point where networks decided not to call a state until the polls were closed in that state.
Prairie Gates
(8,155 posts)The analogy was really on whether there is a sudden collapse in the polls. That narrative came largely from Carter's pollster, Pat Caddell.
struggle4progress
(126,147 posts)we ought to turn a profit on this one"
newdeal2
(5,411 posts)One big grift.
Raven
(14,275 posts)Xavier Breath
(6,640 posts)Why are pickle jars so hard to open? What's the deal with sheep? The possibilities are endless.
Raven
(14,275 posts)magicarpet
(18,508 posts)Maybe he could bring a variety of barnyard beasts on stage at his Nazi Rallies and take his shirt off and hump the animals right infront of his MAGA goons.
The crowd would tear the roof off the place clapping and hollering while enjoying the show. The media could broadcast it coast to coast.
Vance could come up on stage and beat the animals with a leather whip while trDUMPee has sex with them.
That would be a nice closing finale for trDUMPee/Vance Campaign 2024.
Xavier Breath
(6,640 posts)magicarpet
(18,508 posts)While trDUMP is humping the animals he could have a baseball cap on his head with the words,...
"THE FAMILY VALUES PRESIDENT".
Then he could shit himself just before he exited the stage.
Tree Lady
(13,282 posts)We are the ones who hold a honest election, they are the ones who cheat and make sure republicans hold offices that deal with elections.
When people here say it would be a dream if Florida wins, I immediately don't trust the state at all election wise because of who runs the state.
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Tarzanrock
(1,250 posts)You can count of the Turd making those claims. The election was "rigged" against him; and, he was "stabbed in the back" by disloyal people and Trump haters who hate him just like all those Judges, prosecutors and juries coupled with all those "radical leftists" Democrats, communists, socialists, and, non-Aryans all of which who "hate" America and want to see America go further down the "shithole" into the "garbage can" which only MAGA can make great again.
pamdb
(1,439 posts)He's just trying to psych people out.
Skittles
(171,704 posts)HE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN AMERICA.
Beachnutt
(8,909 posts)
Silver Gaia
(5,361 posts)Blue Owl
(59,095 posts)JoseBalow
(9,487 posts)It is here to stay, believe that
lastlib
(28,260 posts)....with maybe a touch of brown, red, and/or green...... that would make it even better!
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democrank
(12,597 posts)Trump is going down and Rudy and Tucker cant help him.
GreenEyedLefty
(2,116 posts)I am consumed with anxiety over this election and in desperate need of good news
pspro
(7 posts)The early voting is probably skewing so heavily Harris/Walz that F45 knows he can't make it up if people vote according to trends on Election Day.
Many don't trust the mail-in boxes because of some reports of arson, others are determined to vote in person and didn't want to wait until the day of in case some shenanigans went down on 11/5. He sees the handwriting and it ain't his. I guess his team had to break it to him before the delusional ketchup bottles started flying...
We democracy-loving stragglers still have to vote though! Harris wins according to trends but they can change with less turn out. If we turn out, we win. No going back.
LuvLoogie
(8,815 posts)Dude's a vampire.
efhmc
(16,656 posts)Deuxcents
(26,914 posts)senseandsensibility
(24,973 posts)This is a quote.
Cha
(319,067 posts)MissB
(16,344 posts)because of genetics.
The Madcap
(1,904 posts)For Jack Smith to go full bore and put Mr. Orange in the big house with no phone and no internet. Beans three times daily. Can you imagine what that's going to smell like?
Aussie105
(7,920 posts)Others are wishing for a Miracle too . . . like the Earth opening up under him for a one way trip down to Hell.
He can have a nice chat with Hitler, so there is that for him.
Quixote1818
(31,155 posts)No wonder he's a bit cranky today. 🤣
lastlib
(28,260 posts)Personally, like all Dems, I love the sound of it! I want to see him go down like the Titanic, and take his cult with him. With all hands. And this time NEVER be seen again.
regnaD kciN
(27,639 posts)recall that, on Election Day 2016, Trump was telling everyone that he knew he was going to lose.
Evolve Dammit
(21,774 posts)chowmama
(1,096 posts)None of it will be his fault.
Hassler
(4,921 posts)Struggle to get up a step. It worked so well the first time.
Hassler
(4,921 posts)And struggle to get up a step while looking like the Great Pumpkin. Sew up the sympathy vote.
WarGamer
(18,613 posts)Initech
(108,778 posts)Seriously, fuck Trump and Fox News. They created this nightmare, it's time to move on.
old candy
(1 post)Harris / Walz campaign - flawless
Trump/Vance campaign - floorless (there is no bottom to his hatred)
KS Toronado
(23,727 posts)
OAITW r.2.0
(32,133 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(20,897 posts)That has to keep one up at night.
democratsruletheday
(1,880 posts)just want it to be over and if he could fuck off and die in the process that would be a huge bonus