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Crunchy Frog

(27,529 posts)
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 08:51 PM Nov 2024

Has anyone else received a "voting report card" in the mail?

I got one and it seems really creepy and stalkerish to me. I found an article about them.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/voter-report-card-mailings-described-as-creepy-and-insulting-defended-as-effective-tool/

One thing that they said in the article is that they focus on sending them to members of "underrepresented groups" like young people, POC, and single women. Makes me wonder if it's a stealth effort to depress the Democratic vote.

I know that sounds paranoid, but at this point I almost think paranoia should be the default.

There's an image of it in the article. I'm curious about what other people make of it.

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Has anyone else received a "voting report card" in the mail? (Original Post) Crunchy Frog Nov 2024 OP
I received one a couple of days ago... Alephy Nov 2024 #1
neighbors are hidden? likeyly they are not known. just a scare tactic nt msongs Nov 2024 #2
Someone posted about something similar and suggested using the website to "remind" friends, etc. TwilightZone Nov 2024 #3
I got one a few years back detailing when I had voted. Xavier Breath Nov 2024 #4
I got one/yes it was creepy. Funtatlaguy Nov 2024 #5
I recently got one of those. LisaL Nov 2024 #6
I don't know whether the stated purpose is the same as the actual one. Crunchy Frog Nov 2024 #8
I got one, and teran Nov 2024 #7
Hubby and i got them...the other person at our address Maeve Nov 2024 #9
What that likely means is that they never removed themselves from the voting rolls. Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #23
I got one last week 10 Turtle Day Nov 2024 #10
It's just a computer generated mailing Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #24
"We will be reviewing these records after the election" does sound creepy. muriel_volestrangler Nov 2024 #11
It is nearly identical to one of the postcards to swing states mesage Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #12
I have NOT received any but I'm not in a swing state. I don't really feel it's a bad thing. It's a good way to determine Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Nov 2024 #13
I sent an Unsubscribe withe th "reasons" UTUSN Nov 2024 #14
You were more polite than I was. n/t Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #25
Is a "Voting report card" what is called a slate? Brother Buzz Nov 2024 #15
Not a slate. Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #26
Yes. Not for the first time Easterncedar Nov 2024 #16
I got one and thought it creepy struggle4progress Nov 2024 #17
Yes, I reported it here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?comview_post&forum1056&pid7339 sinkingfeeling Nov 2024 #18
Yours looks identical to the one I got. Crunchy Frog Nov 2024 #30
DU strips equals signs from post titles, so you can't put DU links to individual posts in there muriel_volestrangler Nov 2024 #31
Thanks. Crunchy Frog Nov 2024 #32
When Cuomo was governor of NY, he sent out wnylib Nov 2024 #19
I've gotten a couple over the years, and I really don't like them. Music Man Nov 2024 #20
I got one dsc Nov 2024 #21
Yeah I got one. Literally voted against every candidate they endorsed! Initech Nov 2024 #22
They don't endorse any candidates. Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #27
My wife and I received them. Creepy and overall GP6971 Nov 2024 #28
My wife got one last week. rsdsharp Nov 2024 #29

TwilightZone

(28,835 posts)
3. Someone posted about something similar and suggested using the website to "remind" friends, etc.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 08:56 PM
Nov 2024

I, personally, think it's creepy and even though the information is public, it feels like an invasion of privacy.

Here's the earlier thread:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219648623

Xavier Breath

(5,509 posts)
4. I got one a few years back detailing when I had voted.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 08:56 PM
Nov 2024

Honestly, if it does anything, it may shame (if that's not too strong a word) some into voting that maybe hadn't planned to do so. If that turns out to be young people, POC and single women (none of which describes me, btw), would that be a bad thing for us?

And yes, I agree it's kinda creepy. But it's info that's already posted on the web anyway.

Crunchy Frog

(27,529 posts)
8. I don't know whether the stated purpose is the same as the actual one.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:25 PM
Nov 2024

It doesn't seem to me that making people feel creeped out, insulted, or threatened would be either an effective or ethical means of increasing voter turnout.

I've found a bunch more articles about it and lots of people seem to be complaining, and there's even been a cease and desist order from the Maryland AG.

This does not strike me as being completely upfront.

teran

(58 posts)
7. I got one, and
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:19 PM
Nov 2024

I ripped it up and recycled it. If whoever sent it had any idea what they were doing, the would know I already voted early weeks ago, so whatever message they intended to send was meaningless.

Maeve

(43,203 posts)
9. Hubby and i got them...the other person at our address
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:25 PM
Nov 2024

Voted in 2020, but has since moved (twice) and married. I know for a fact she's voted elsewhere and I know for whom.
Wasted effort on their part, using outdated info

Ms. Toad

(36,662 posts)
23. What that likely means is that they never removed themselves from the voting rolls.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:21 AM
Nov 2024

There's supposed to be cooperation - but especially when the move is to another state, it may not happen.

My daughter got one for the people who used to live at her house . . . years ago. They didn't vote then, and apparently never registered wherever they live now (they are still registered voters at her address).

10 Turtle Day

(705 posts)
10. I got one last week
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:25 PM
Nov 2024

They could have saved their postage because I always vote, every single election. They could have looked farther back and seen that.

And if they’re trying to shame me into voting this election, just try stopping me! (Actually, I already voted weeks ago.)

I agree it’s a creepy approach.

Ms. Toad

(36,662 posts)
24. It's just a computer generated mailing
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:23 AM
Nov 2024

They say it is targeted to voters who are less likely to vote, but based on the fact that I have voted in all but two (IIRC) elections since 1976, it is obviously just mass-generated. (The others in my household received similar mailings, and my spouse has a similar voting record to mine. My daughter has missed a few non-November elections.)

muriel_volestrangler

(103,460 posts)
11. "We will be reviewing these records after the election" does sound creepy.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:27 PM
Nov 2024

And it's not as if it's a polite letter, either. No "please" in it - a "thank you" if you've already voted (but not if you plan on voting on the day, it seems). I imagine a lot of people tell Gail Kitch to go fuck herself, under their breath.

Ms. Toad

(36,662 posts)
12. It is nearly identical to one of the postcards to swing states mesage
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:32 PM
Nov 2024

Last edited Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:26 AM - Edit history (1)

I hate it, and refuse to use it but the message originated in Dem circles years ago.

I completely agree it is creepy (whether on a written postcard or this mass produced crap. And I hate that we started it.

(I tried to unsubscribe using their directions. They didn't work (the unsubscribe code they provided was rejected). I added that observation to the piece of my mind I had already typed up about the message. From the article, I doubt the organizer cares. I hope enough people are annoyed that he doesn't have enough money to support sending these out in the next cycle.

Jmb 4 Harris-Walz

(1,081 posts)
13. I have NOT received any but I'm not in a swing state. I don't really feel it's a bad thing. It's a good way to determine
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:34 PM
Nov 2024

if you should go next door, knock and ask if they would like a ride to the polling location.

If it can increase voter turnout, I guess I think it’s a good thing.

UTUSN

(73,859 posts)
14. I sent an Unsubscribe withe th "reasons"
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:44 PM
Nov 2024

They had my name, address, dates i voted past several elections "from public records" and two redacted neighbors' names showing their dates. Their phone had only a recording. Sent the email reasons:

1- This is intrusive and creepy.
2- I'm an adult and don't need a "report card" or monitoring.
3- Unsolicited mail junk means I have the nuisance of tearing out my information and shredding.
4- I doubt this project is effective.




Brother Buzz

(38,303 posts)
15. Is a "Voting report card" what is called a slate?
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:54 PM
Nov 2024

If it is, make a study of the legally required asterisks? You can learn a lot by studying slates sent by oppositions, dressed up to look legitimate. In the past, I received one or two that looked like solid Democratic slates, but there would be one or two republican ringers down ballot. Same for some of the nasty republican propositions. Deceptive as Hell!

Ms. Toad

(36,662 posts)
26. Not a slate.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:28 AM
Nov 2024

Just "big brother" reporting to you on whether you voted last time, and on whether two of your neighbors voted last time, and a vague threat that they will be checking up on whether you vote this time.

Easterncedar

(4,247 posts)
16. Yes. Not for the first time
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:01 PM
Nov 2024

I understand it motivates some people to vote. Whoever it works on ain't me.

struggle4progress

(122,711 posts)
17. I got one and thought it creepy
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:11 PM
Nov 2024

It contained no useful information about voting -- it just said that whether I voted was public record

Yeah? So what was the point?

sinkingfeeling

(55,061 posts)
18. Yes, I reported it here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?comview_post&forum1056&pid7339
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:28 PM
Nov 2024

I live in Illinois and got a mailer with my voting history from the Center for Voter Information.

It states, " We're sending this mailing to you and your neighbors to share who does and does not vote in an effort to promote election participation. While we have hidden the name and street number of your neighbors to protect their privacy, these are their true voting records."

Obviously the data came from the Illinois database since I have only voted here twice.

Crunchy Frog

(27,529 posts)
30. Yours looks identical to the one I got.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 01:20 AM
Nov 2024

I'd like to see your post but I can't get the link to work.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,460 posts)
31. DU strips equals signs from post titles, so you can't put DU links to individual posts in there
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 06:35 AM
Nov 2024

and they're not so useful there either since you can't just click on them.

Try this: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1056&pid=7339

wnylib

(25,232 posts)
19. When Cuomo was governor of NY, he sent out
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:31 PM
Nov 2024

letters one year during the primaries to scold Dems who had not voted in the last Dem gubernatorial primary 4 years earlier. I received one because I had been sick on primary voting day during that previous election.

A lot of NY Dems were angry at the authoritarian tone of the letter and the feeling that we were being spied on.

So, after receiving the letter, I made sure that I voted in that year's primary. I cast my vote for Cuomo's primary opponent.


Music Man

(1,633 posts)
20. I've gotten a couple over the years, and I really don't like them.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:31 PM
Nov 2024

I don't appreciate the shaming tone, and no one I know personally enjoys getting them either.

dsc

(52,867 posts)
21. I got one
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:41 PM
Nov 2024

from the second group, which makes sense since we aren't asked sexual orientation in polls so they would assume me to be a white male not a member of a minority group.

Ms. Toad

(36,662 posts)
27. They don't endorse any candidates.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:30 AM
Nov 2024

All they do is spy on whether you and your neighbors voted.

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