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CatWoman

(80,288 posts)
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:02 PM Nov 2024

Give me an effing break -- FCC commissioner claims Harris on 'SNL' violates 'equal time' rule

A Federal Communications Commission (FCC) commissioner has claimed that Vice President Harris’s recent appearance on “Saturday Night Live,” commonly known as “SNL,” violates the “equal time” rule.

“This is a clear and blatant effort to evade the FCC’s Equal Time rule,” Commissioner Brendan Carr posted on the social platform X on Saturday in response to a post from The Associated Press about Harris being on the show that night.

“The purpose of the rule is to avoid exactly this type of biased and partisan conduct — a licensed broadcaster using the public airwaves to exert its influence for one candidate on the eve of an election. Unless the broadcaster offered Equal Time to other qualifying campaigns,” Carr, a Trump appointee, continued.

The FCC’s “equal time” rules let rival candidates ask for equal air time.

Carr, the senior Republican on the commission, was appointed by former President Trump.

https://thehill.com/homenews/4968217-fcc-commissioner-claims-harris-on-snl-violates-equal-time-rule/

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Give me an effing break -- FCC commissioner claims Harris on 'SNL' violates 'equal time' rule (Original Post) CatWoman Nov 2024 OP
You have to be fawking kidding me..... a kennedy Nov 2024 #1
NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race. kelly1mm Nov 2024 #94
so let trump be on next week'ss SNL. no mic either just stand before the camera nt msongs Nov 2024 #2
Was it a violation when John McCain appeared on SNL during HIS candidacy? raging moderate Nov 2024 #3
Obama and Clinton were both on SNL in 2008. former9thward Nov 2024 #53
I could not find any report or video of obama on snl in 2008. wnylib Nov 2024 #74
I googled and many stories came up. former9thward Nov 2024 #75
Checked again and found one reference in an Entertainment Weekly article wnylib Nov 2024 #87
I can't get your link to open, but from the pic wnylib Nov 2024 #89
It was Obama. former9thward Nov 2024 #131
I actually saw it at the time. DFW Nov 2024 #120
He was on. IrishAfricanAmerican Nov 2024 #122
Don't forget Sarah Palin's appearance when Amy Pohler did the rap song. wnylib Nov 2024 #70
Carr a maga? Just a guess. Klarkashton Nov 2024 #4
He is a full fledged MAGA who posts SharonClark Nov 2024 #78
So what are the Fucking Whiners gonna Do about it? Cha Nov 2024 #5
NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race. kelly1mm Nov 2024 #95
I'm sure he got an earful from Steven Cheung this morning newdeal2 Nov 2024 #6
... Cha Nov 2024 #12
LOL skylucy Nov 2024 #23
Really.. Aloha, skylucy! Cha Nov 2024 #31
Fux? MoseShrute Nov 2024 #7
Fox is cable and not subject to the equal time rule. wnylib Nov 2024 #76
tRump did sketch in 15 , no one bitched about that, also, given 6 minutes more time in the ABC debate yaesu Nov 2024 #8
Trump guest hosted the show in the 2016 campaign. wnylib Nov 2024 #90
What equal time rule? C_U_L8R Nov 2024 #9
The equal time rule has never gone away. former9thward Nov 2024 #51
Cable versus Network stations. The FCC only has regulation authority over network stations, not cable. wnylib Nov 2024 #91
So the Pisswig asked dweller Nov 2024 #10
Fox news is not regulated by the FCC. NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race. kelly1mm Nov 2024 #96
More predicting economic doom dweller Nov 2024 #97
What the hell? Dave Bowman Nov 2024 #11
NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race. kelly1mm Nov 2024 #98
FCC commissioner Brendan Carr wrote a chapter for Project 2025 greatauntoftriplets Nov 2024 #13
+1 dalton99a Nov 2024 #29
Oh shit they wanna bring back equal time?? ColinC Nov 2024 #14
Equal time never went away. Are you thinking of the Fairness Doctrine? sir pball Nov 2024 #42
I am :( ColinC Nov 2024 #48
Well the way I see it... sheshe2 Nov 2024 #60
That's RIGHT! Besides I read that they had to Cha Nov 2024 #63
Geez Louise... sheshe2 Nov 2024 #68
So how many times did tfg call into Faux news? duncang Nov 2024 #15
Cable isn't licensed broadcast. Nt. Voltaire2 Nov 2024 #49
Kamala has been on late night tv shows..had one with Colbert not long ago. Deuxcents Nov 2024 #16
Talk shows are exempt. As is news programming. onenote Nov 2024 #113
Thank you..appreciate the explanation Deuxcents Nov 2024 #119
Jeez, this is disconcerting.... OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2024 #17
Hmmm....I seem to remember ....... BBbats Nov 2024 #18
That's some pretty sour grapes there al bupp Nov 2024 #19
NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race. kelly1mm Nov 2024 #99
They showed trump clips, looking/acting like a buffoon. That should qualify. Silent Type Nov 2024 #20
... skylucy Nov 2024 #21
He posted on X? Jim__ Nov 2024 #22
So, was Sarah Palin's NameAlreadyTaken Nov 2024 #24
She was a Republican Retrograde Nov 2024 #32
Clinton and Obama appeared on SNL in 2008. former9thward Nov 2024 #55
He's a MAGAt appointee. lees1975 Nov 2024 #25
tsf has done this _exact_ format before cadoman Nov 2024 #26
This has come up with SNL before Sympthsical Nov 2024 #36
TY cadoman! Since I read the media is giving this attention Cha Nov 2024 #43
Holy crap, Fallon does a terrible Trump impersonation. LudwigPastorius Nov 2024 #82
Trump appointee Carr also wrote the Project 2025 chapter on the FCC Tanuki Nov 2024 #27
Reagan blew that up. Bo such thing anymore Clouds Passing Nov 2024 #28
sock it to me TrunKated Nov 2024 #30
Equal Time? Straw Man Nov 2024 #33
Trump held "press conferences" and took no questions for free media time Freethinker65 Nov 2024 #34
By all means give Trump equal time on the next SNL show. DJ Synikus Makisimus Nov 2024 #35
NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race. kelly1mm Nov 2024 #100
The FCC is close to irrelevancy Mountainguy Nov 2024 #37
the other ace the Harris campaign has up their sleeve: there is an equal time exception for "interviews" cadoman Nov 2024 #38
NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race. kelly1mm Nov 2024 #101
Good. Issue resolved Raven123 Nov 2024 #124
Would Trump Even Appear on SNL? Metaphorical Nov 2024 #39
He's hosted it in 2004 and appeared in 2015. jimfields33 Nov 2024 #54
The information you have at your fingertips!!! dpibel Nov 2024 #62
Google is awesome. jimfields33 Nov 2024 #65
Is there any evidence Trump wasn't offered equal time? RidinWithHarris Nov 2024 #40
NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race. kelly1mm Nov 2024 #102
So what, it's done! grobertj Nov 2024 #41
So Trump can show up to one of the many Tree Lady Nov 2024 #44
Republican bullshit. Fuck his partisanship. live love laugh Nov 2024 #45
Trump was on the show too. I saw him, and he even had lines. ananda Nov 2024 #46
Fuck that guy. Seriously. Fuck him. Bristlecone Nov 2024 #47
The rule applies to Dems only ailsagirl Nov 2024 #50
How? former9thward Nov 2024 #57
It's been pointed out to you. Repeatedly. W_HAMILTON Nov 2024 #66
Since both Clinton and Obama appeared on SNL in 2008 how was any rule broken? former9thward Nov 2024 #69
Perhaps you should look more into this rule before commenting on it. W_HAMILTON Nov 2024 #72
Maybe you should read the full thread. former9thward Nov 2024 #73
They have. As you have been told repeatedly. W_HAMILTON Nov 2024 #77
"As you have been told repeatedly." former9thward Nov 2024 #79
The other correct responses to you that I've read and your insistent "nuh-uh'ing" of them -- those comments. W_HAMILTON Nov 2024 #81
Do a cut and paste if you can get past personal attacks. former9thward Nov 2024 #83
Oh, we're at that point now. W_HAMILTON Nov 2024 #85
Obama appeared on SNL on November 3, 2007 Wiz Imp Nov 2024 #129
Yes, as a candidate for president. former9thward Nov 2024 #130
Trump calls in to Hannity's show pretty often. DiamondShark Nov 2024 #123
As I said the law exempts talk shows. former9thward Nov 2024 #132
You should double check your info. AM/FM radio is still covered under the FCC. DiamondShark Nov 2024 #133
The FCC exempts talk shows. former9thward Nov 2024 #134
Good to know... DiamondShark Nov 2024 #135
Blatant MAGAT partisanship. NoMoreRepugs Nov 2024 #52
trmp is on 'fox entertainment' daily. This is total bullshit. spanone Nov 2024 #56
Fox News is on cable, not broadcast so is not subject to FCC regulation, nt kelly1mm Nov 2024 #104
Reagan did away with the Fairness Doctrine spanone Nov 2024 #110
The Fairness Doctrine is different than the Equal Time rule. nt kelly1mm Nov 2024 #111
👍🏼 spanone Nov 2024 #112
There is a difference between "ask" and "offer." Raven123 Nov 2024 #58
NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race. kelly1mm Nov 2024 #105
Do you ever feel like nobody's listening to you? Lulu KC Nov 2024 #109
Oh this is a steaming pile of certified grade A bullshit. Initech Nov 2024 #59
It is not the show, but the network. NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race. kelly1mm Nov 2024 #106
Can we file an FCC complaint re: this? vapor2 Nov 2024 #61
What would the complaint be? onenote Nov 2024 #115
WTF is this? Blue_Roses Nov 2024 #64
If you use Google you can read all about the rule. NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race. kelly1mm Nov 2024 #107
Got it. Thank-you! Blue_Roses Nov 2024 #121
Trump appeared over and over again on weekend update Johonny Nov 2024 #67
Trump hosted an entire episode, what are THEY whining about? Montauk6 Nov 2024 #71
For the love of Pete Lulu KC Nov 2024 #80
Ahem. "A spokesperson for the FCC issued a statement: Emrys Nov 2024 #84
Whines the party that ended The Unmitigated Gall Nov 2024 #86
If would appear on SNL Mossfern Nov 2024 #88
NBC is giving President Trump free airtime to comply with the equal time rule. nt kelly1mm Nov 2024 #92
What "equal time" rule? Jit423 Nov 2024 #93
This Equal Time rule: kelly1mm Nov 2024 #114
This message was self-deleted by its author edisdead Nov 2024 #103
I made that prediction on FB yesterday Orrex Nov 2024 #108
Reagan got rid of the fairness doctrine back in the 80s oldmanlynn Nov 2024 #116
The equal time rule is a separate rule and was not impacted by the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine. onenote Nov 2024 #117
Talk shows and other regular news programming from syndicators, such as Entertainment Tonight, are also declared exempt JohnSJ Nov 2024 #118
The FCC commissioner must think that putting Trump on TV... dchill Nov 2024 #125
equal time pamdb Nov 2024 #126
I'm all for k55f5r Nov 2024 #127
So air a rerun. Marcuse Nov 2024 #128
 

kelly1mm

(5,756 posts)
94. NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:13 AM
Nov 2024

NBC gave Donald Trump’s campaign commercial time free of charge during Sunday’s NASCAR playoff race, an exchange made to stay compliant with the Federal Communication Commission’s “equal time” rule, according to a new report in The Hollywood Reporter.

The former president took advantage of the situation by airing an ad immediately following the race, in which he spoke directly to the camera while intoning about an economic “depression” that he predicted would come if Vice President Kamala Harris wins the presidential election on Tuesday.

The network was forced to give up the airtime after it featured Harris for about 90 seconds during its “cold open” sketch on this weekend’s episode of Saturday Night Live—though it remains unclear whether the Trump campaign will request more time."

raging moderate

(4,624 posts)
3. Was it a violation when John McCain appeared on SNL during HIS candidacy?
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:04 PM
Nov 2024

I don't remember any complaints from Republicans when John McCain made a similar appearance years ago.

wnylib

(26,009 posts)
74. I could not find any report or video of obama on snl in 2008.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:22 PM
Nov 2024

I did find a report about him cancelling an appearance due to a hurricane and his request that his supporters give aid to the victims.

wnylib

(26,009 posts)
87. Checked again and found one reference in an Entertainment Weekly article
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:51 PM
Nov 2024

about Obama appearing on SNL in 2007 for the 2008 campaign, but could not find a video or other article on it. That would have been sitting the primary between Obama and Clinton. No mention of him appearing as the DEM candidate when he was running against McCain.

There are several references to imitation Obamas in snl skits, but not the real Obama.

wnylib

(26,009 posts)
89. I can't get your link to open, but from the pic
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:57 PM
Nov 2024

that does appear with the link, "Obama" seems to be an actor wearing an Obama face mask, looking at an imitation Clinton. That would have been the primary season with Obama running against Clinton.

Once he was the chosen Dem candidate running against McCain, I can't find anything on him appearing on SNL.



DFW

(60,182 posts)
120. I actually saw it at the time.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 01:13 AM
Nov 2024

It was a Halloween party where someone came up to a tall skinny guy with an Obama mask, complimenting him on how good a mask it was. He took it off, and it was the real Obama.

IrishAfricanAmerican

(4,471 posts)
122. He was on.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 03:31 AM
Nov 2024

I've been watching all of the old SNLs the past year, working my way from the beginning to current. I'm currently on 2008 as luck would have it and, yes, he did appear in a cold open that year.

wnylib

(26,009 posts)
70. Don't forget Sarah Palin's appearance when Amy Pohler did the rap song.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:06 PM
Nov 2024
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SharonClark

(10,497 posts)
78. He is a full fledged MAGA who posts
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:26 PM
Nov 2024

crazy anti-Biden and anti Harris nonsense on his X account. Just ignore him.

Cha

(319,067 posts)
5. So what are the Fucking Whiners gonna Do about it?
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:08 PM
Nov 2024

Equal Time.. Balderdash!

So SNL likes Kamala Harris and Hates TSF.. BFD. It's New York!

 

kelly1mm

(5,756 posts)
95. NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:15 AM
Nov 2024

NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race.NBC gave Donald Trump’s campaign commercial time free of charge during Sunday’s NASCAR playoff race, an exchange made to stay compliant with the Federal Communication Commission’s “equal time” rule, according to a new report in The Hollywood Reporter.

The former president took advantage of the situation by airing an ad immediately following the race, in which he spoke directly to the camera while intoning about an economic “depression” that he predicted would come if Vice President Kamala Harris wins the presidential election on Tuesday.

The network was forced to give up the airtime after it featured Harris for about 90 seconds during its “cold open” sketch on this weekend’s episode of Saturday Night Live—though it remains unclear whether the Trump campaign will request more time.

wnylib

(26,009 posts)
76. Fox is cable and not subject to the equal time rule.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:24 PM
Nov 2024

It only applies to network stations like NBC, CBS, and ABC.

yaesu

(9,327 posts)
8. tRump did sketch in 15 , no one bitched about that, also, given 6 minutes more time in the ABC debate
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:10 PM
Nov 2024

"Some viewers also noted that Harris’s “mirror image” comedy sketch was conceptually identical to a sketch Trump featured in with ex-SNL comedian Jimmy Fallon on Fallon’s the Tonight Show in 2015."

wnylib

(26,009 posts)
90. Trump guest hosted the show in the 2016 campaign.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:01 AM
Nov 2024

SNL took a lot of flak over that.

How much time did Clinton get on SNL in 2016?

C_U_L8R

(49,384 posts)
9. What equal time rule?
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:10 PM
Nov 2024

The one Republicans did away with years ago? If there was an equal time rule, Fox News and rightwing hate radio would not exist.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
51. The equal time rule has never gone away.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:31 PM
Nov 2024

You may be thinking of the fairness doctrine. The law containing the rule is 47 U.S. Code § 315 The law exempts talk shows and news programs.

wnylib

(26,009 posts)
91. Cable versus Network stations. The FCC only has regulation authority over network stations, not cable.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:04 AM
Nov 2024

dweller

(28,409 posts)
10. So the Pisswig asked
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:11 PM
Nov 2024

for equal time ? Or is Carr asking for him ?
How about all the times the Pisswig has called into Fauxsnooze and was given airtime ? Not a problem ?
🤔



✌🏻



 

kelly1mm

(5,756 posts)
96. Fox news is not regulated by the FCC. NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:17 AM
Nov 2024

NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race.NBC gave Donald Trump’s campaign commercial time free of charge during Sunday’s NASCAR playoff race, an exchange made to stay compliant with the Federal Communication Commission’s “equal time” rule, according to a new report in The Hollywood Reporter.

The former president took advantage of the situation by airing an ad immediately following the race, in which he spoke directly to the camera while intoning about an economic “depression” that he predicted would come if Vice President Kamala Harris wins the presidential election on Tuesday.

The network was forced to give up the airtime after it featured Harris for about 90 seconds during its “cold open” sketch on this weekend’s episode of Saturday Night Live—though it remains unclear whether the Trump campaign will request more time.

dweller

(28,409 posts)
97. More predicting economic doom
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:20 AM
Nov 2024

Like he did for Biden
How’s that stock market these days ?

Idiot


✌🏻

 

kelly1mm

(5,756 posts)
98. NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:22 AM
Nov 2024

NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race.NBC gave Donald Trump’s campaign commercial time free of charge during Sunday’s NASCAR playoff race, an exchange made to stay compliant with the Federal Communication Commission’s “equal time” rule, according to a new report in The Hollywood Reporter.

The former president took advantage of the situation by airing an ad immediately following the race, in which he spoke directly to the camera while intoning about an economic “depression” that he predicted would come if Vice President Kamala Harris wins the presidential election on Tuesday.

The network was forced to give up the airtime after it featured Harris for about 90 seconds during its “cold open” sketch on this weekend’s episode of Saturday Night Live—though it remains unclear whether the Trump campaign will request more time.

greatauntoftriplets

(179,005 posts)
13. FCC commissioner Brendan Carr wrote a chapter for Project 2025
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:13 PM
Nov 2024
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4777384-house-democrats-question-fcc-role-project-2025/

Democrats question FCC commissioner’s role in Project 2025
by Nick Robertson - 07/17/24 1:10 PM ET

Brendan Carr, Commissioner of the Federal Communications Commission, answers a question during a House Appropriations Subcommittee hearing to discuss the President’s F.Y. 2025 budget request for the commission on Thursday, May 16, 2024.
More than a dozen House Democrats sent a letter to the inspector general of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) on Wednesday, questioning Commissioner Brendan Carr’s role in helping craft Project 2025, a conservative policy document.

The letter, led by Rep. Jared Huffman (D-Calif.), claims Carr violated ethics rules and may have misused his office.


Project 2025 is a Heritage Foundation document outlining policy initiatives for a second Trump administration, and included multiple contributors and backers close to former President Trump. Trump has personally distanced himself from the project, though Democrats have consistently hit the former president for his ties to its authors.

sir pball

(5,340 posts)
42. Equal time never went away. Are you thinking of the Fairness Doctrine?
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:47 PM
Nov 2024

Quoth 47 U.S. Code § 315:

If any licensee shall permit any person who is a legally qualified candidate for any public office to use a broadcasting station, he shall afford equal opportunities to all other such candidates for that office in the use of such broadcasting station


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/315

sheshe2

(97,622 posts)
60. Well the way I see it...
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:42 PM
Nov 2024

They gave him equal time by reenacting his rally performance where he was fellating his microphone.
Even Steven

Cha

(319,067 posts)
63. That's RIGHT! Besides I read that they had to
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:48 PM
Nov 2024

ask to be on.. apparently according to that Veep Kamala Asked.

sheshe2

(97,622 posts)
68. Geez Louise...
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:03 PM
Nov 2024

MAGgots are so childish with these tantrums. Time to put on their big boy pants and act like adults for a change.

Deuxcents

(26,914 posts)
16. Kamala has been on late night tv shows..had one with Colbert not long ago.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:16 PM
Nov 2024

They gonna complain about everything because that’s all they got.

onenote

(46,139 posts)
113. Talk shows are exempt. As is news programming.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:48 AM
Nov 2024

The rule is triggered by an "appearance" by a candidate in an advertisement or other non-news, non-talk programming.
It primarily serves t ensure that all candidates have an equal opportunity ...which is the correct name of the rule, not equal time...to purchase advertising during a campaign and that they are charged the "lowest unit rate" for such advertising. It also applies to "free" appearances, such as an appearance on Saturday Night Live.

Carr was full of shit when he suggested that NBC or SNL had violated the rule. The only obligations a station has when there is an appearance that triggers the rule are to put a notice about the appearance in the station's public file and to honor a request from a competing candidate for an equal amount of time at the same cost.

Also, the Daily Beast article is mistaken when it says NBC filed a notice with the Federal Election Commission. There is no requirement for the NBC to notifiy the FEC. What NBC was required to do ... and what they have done...is to instruct their affiliated stations to put a notice about the appearance in each station's public file.

BBbats

(309 posts)
18. Hmmm....I seem to remember .......
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:17 PM
Nov 2024

I remember(I could be wrong) a tidbit of something I heard or read that stated that during the Reagan administration TV stations stopped showing Ronald Reagan's movies because they would have to allow the other side "equal time".
I do remember never seeing " King's Road" or "Bedtime For Bonzo" on during those eight years. They were staples on UHF TV in the 70's.
Could be a real ,although stupid ,FCC rule.

al bupp

(2,546 posts)
19. That's some pretty sour grapes there
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:18 PM
Nov 2024

But maybe NBC could claim they for all they knew, if given the chance, TFG would just try to violate the sound equipment.

 

kelly1mm

(5,756 posts)
99. NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:24 AM
Nov 2024

NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race .NBC gave Donald Trump’s campaign commercial time free of charge during Sunday’s NASCAR playoff race, an exchange made to stay compliant with the Federal Communication Commission’s “equal time” rule, according to a new report in The Hollywood Reporter.

The former president took advantage of the situation by airing an ad immediately following the race, in which he spoke directly to the camera while intoning about an economic “depression” that he predicted would come if Vice President Kamala Harris wins the presidential election on Tuesday.

The network was forced to give up the airtime after it featured Harris for about 90 seconds during its “cold open” sketch on this weekend’s episode of Saturday Night Live—though it remains unclear whether the Trump campaign will request more time.

lees1975

(7,046 posts)
25. He's a MAGAt appointee.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:26 PM
Nov 2024

The equal time rule is not the same thing as the fairness doctrine, which is no longer a rule. All NBC needs to do to make sure they comply is to find out how much time they've given to coverage of Trump's appearances, rallies, press conferences, and compare that to what they've given to Harris. It wouldn't even be close. They've violated equal time in his favor to the 100th power.

It's a nothing burger, and the fact that the media is giving it any attention at all is evidence of their bias.

 

cadoman

(1,617 posts)
26. tsf has done this _exact_ format before
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:30 PM
Nov 2024


Looks like Fallon invented it and has used it with Romney and others?



Hollywood Reporter has the clarification:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/kamala-harris-snl-appearance-violate-equal-time-rule-1236052572/

However, the burden falls on the candidates to request those equal opportunities, and the agency’s policy on the rule states: “Equal opportunities generally means providing comparable time and placement to opposing candidates; it does not require a station to provide opposing candidates with programs identical to the initiating candidate.”


So if tsf didn't request it he wouldn't get it. I'm sure he knew his chemistry with the crew would be rotten.

Beware of MAGAT FEC commissioner Brendon Carr--he will likely need a lot of fact-checking in the coming hours:

https://x.com/BrendanCarrFCC

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
36. This has come up with SNL before
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:38 PM
Nov 2024

I forget which election - maybe the 2016 primaries - and the solution is typically to offer free ad time to the other candidates.

SNL doesn't have to offer Trump a sketch. NBC just has to offer comparable value if requested. They could just toss him a free ad during a football game and call it a day.

Cha

(319,067 posts)
43. TY cadoman! Since I read the media is giving this attention
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:48 PM
Nov 2024

and Not TSF's mic Sexual Attack.. Maybe it will get even more people to watch the SNL skit and see what a great job Kamala Did?!

LudwigPastorius

(14,723 posts)
82. Holy crap, Fallon does a terrible Trump impersonation.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:33 PM
Nov 2024

Then again, I'm not a fan of much else he does either.

Tanuki

(16,446 posts)
27. Trump appointee Carr also wrote the Project 2025 chapter on the FCC
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:30 PM
Nov 2024
https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/project-2025-fcc

"Meet the Project 2025 Co-Author Who Wants to Run the FCC If Trump Wins
Brendan Carr knows who’s calling the shots in the modern GOP, so when he’s not fawning over Trump — a prerequisite for any potential appointee — he’s busy buttering up the world’s richest internet troll: Elon Musk.
....
What you might not know is that just one of Project 2025’s authors currently works for the federal government: Brendan Carr, the senior Republican on the Federal Communications Commission.

Carr has sided with big companies and against the public interest on nearly every important issue to come before the FCC. He’s also learned what it takes to get ahead in Trumpworld: telling lies, cozying up to the far right, insisting Trump can do no wrong, sucking up to billionaires and telling more lies.
.....
Commissioner Carr’s contribution to Project 2025’s “Mandate for Leadership” is wrongheaded if relatively milquetoast compared to other chapters. He rants TikTok (which is not under the FCC’s jurisdiction) and China, unwisely calls for the elimination of Section 230 of the Communications Act, and endorses ways to enrich Elon Musk’s Starlink and right-wing broadcasters like Sinclair.

He makes it clear that under a future Chairman Carr, the FCC would do the bidding of big business unencumbered by notions of serving the public interest, helping those experiencing poverty or addressing racial disparities."...(more)






Freethinker65

(11,203 posts)
34. Trump held "press conferences" and took no questions for free media time
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:35 PM
Nov 2024

Harris's campaign didn't demand equal time even though it was obvious Trump called those fake "press conferences" to spew his stump speech material to a national TV audience and disparage Harris (and before her, Biden).

DJ Synikus Makisimus

(1,438 posts)
35. By all means give Trump equal time on the next SNL show.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:36 PM
Nov 2024

'Ya know, after the election. Hell, let him produce his own comedy show like the one in MSG and demonstrate once more how racist, misogist, classist, homophobic, transphobic and xenophobic Republicans are. Good fodder for commercials in case of runoff elections.

BTW, what is the penalty (if any) for broadcast networks who violate the fairness rules?

 

kelly1mm

(5,756 posts)
100. NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:28 AM
Nov 2024

NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race.NBC gave Donald Trump’s campaign commercial time free of charge during Sunday’s NASCAR playoff race, an exchange made to stay compliant with the Federal Communication Commission’s “equal time” rule, according to a new report in The Hollywood Reporter.

The former president took advantage of the situation by airing an ad immediately following the race, in which he spoke directly to the camera while intoning about an economic “depression” that he predicted would come if Vice President Kamala Harris wins the presidential election on Tuesday.

The network was forced to give up the airtime after it featured Harris for about 90 seconds during its “cold open” sketch on this weekend’s episode of Saturday Night Live—though it remains unclear whether the Trump campaign will request more time.

 

cadoman

(1,617 posts)
38. the other ace the Harris campaign has up their sleeve: there is an equal time exception for "interviews"
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:40 PM
Nov 2024

And the skit here is literally an interview format.

If the airing was within a documentary, bona fide news interview, scheduled newscast, or an on-the-spot news event, the equal-time rule does not apply.
 

kelly1mm

(5,756 posts)
101. NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:29 AM
Nov 2024

NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race.NBC gave Donald Trump’s campaign commercial time free of charge during Sunday’s NASCAR playoff race, an exchange made to stay compliant with the Federal Communication Commission’s “equal time” rule, according to a new report in The Hollywood Reporter.

The former president took advantage of the situation by airing an ad immediately following the race, in which he spoke directly to the camera while intoning about an economic “depression” that he predicted would come if Vice President Kamala Harris wins the presidential election on Tuesday.

The network was forced to give up the airtime after it featured Harris for about 90 seconds during its “cold open” sketch on this weekend’s episode of Saturday Night Live—though it remains unclear whether the Trump campaign will request more time.

Metaphorical

(2,634 posts)
39. Would Trump Even Appear on SNL?
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:41 PM
Nov 2024

Three points:
* Trump would no more appear on SNL than he would endorse Kamala Harris for President. This is a man who hates being the subject of ridicule, and they would ROAST him alive.
* The FCC would have to explain then how networks have given Trump IMMENSE amount of free air time, far in excess of Harris.
* A single commissioner can complain, but it takes a committee to make a formal complaint (and levy fines), with two Democrats and two Republicans on the current committee. So this is basically a personal opinion.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
54. He's hosted it in 2004 and appeared in 2015.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:36 PM
Nov 2024

I’m sure he’d go on for a third if offered.

 

kelly1mm

(5,756 posts)
102. NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:30 AM
Nov 2024

NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race. NBC gave Donald Trump’s campaign commercial time free of charge during Sunday’s NASCAR playoff race, an exchange made to stay compliant with the Federal Communication Commission’s “equal time” rule, according to a new report in The Hollywood Reporter.

The former president took advantage of the situation by airing an ad immediately following the race, in which he spoke directly to the camera while intoning about an economic “depression” that he predicted would come if Vice President Kamala Harris wins the presidential election on Tuesday.

The network was forced to give up the airtime after it featured Harris for about 90 seconds during its “cold open” sketch on this weekend’s episode of Saturday Night Live—though it remains unclear whether the Trump campaign will request more time.

Tree Lady

(13,282 posts)
44. So Trump can show up to one of the many
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:49 PM
Nov 2024

news shows he turned down like CBS, they would all put him on.

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
66. It's been pointed out to you. Repeatedly.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:01 PM
Nov 2024

If you think this isn't just a Republican whining to appease his cult leader, please cite all the public comments made by sitting FCC commissioners about how McCain/Palin appearing on SNL broke the rule.

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
72. Perhaps you should look more into this rule before commenting on it.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:17 PM
Nov 2024

The rule is regarding COMPETING POLITICAL CANDIDATES and requires COMPARABLE TIME AND PLACEMENT.

Furthermore, the rule isn't simply enforced by the FCC -- it requires a complaint from an interested party to be investigated and potentially enforced. Jonathan S. Uriarte, an FCC director, said that no complaint had been received as of earlier today.

So, yes, I will repeat it for you one more time: this is just a Trump-appointed Republican hack doing what we expect Trump-appointed Republican hacks to do.

Can't wait for Kamala to get elected and start to ... drain the swamp!

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
73. Maybe you should read the full thread.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:20 PM
Nov 2024

And my posts. Please do a cut and paste where I complained a rule had been violated. My only comments were to people who said that Republicans had broken the rule in various years on SNL. No one has since they have had both Rs and Ds. Try again.

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
77. They have. As you have been told repeatedly.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:26 PM
Nov 2024

Obama appeared in 2007, when he was competing for the Democratic nomination.

McCain appeared in 2008, just days before the actual election.

Hence my COMPETING POLITICAL CANDIDATES and COMPARABLE TIME AND PLACEMENT comments.

Get it yet?

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
79. "As you have been told repeatedly."
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:29 PM
Nov 2024

Told by who? You? A poster just told me Obama never appeared on SNL. I guess that makes you wrong since I have "been told repeatedly"

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
81. The other correct responses to you that I've read and your insistent "nuh-uh'ing" of them -- those comments.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:32 PM
Nov 2024

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
85. Oh, we're at that point now.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:41 PM
Nov 2024

No need -- everyone can read for themselves the responses to you that apparently you have not if you are making that request of me.

PS - My responses are sufficient. They exactly explained why you are in the wrong here, even if the others that told you this before me did not get through.

Wiz Imp

(9,993 posts)
129. Obama appeared on SNL on November 3, 2007
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 06:55 PM
Nov 2024

Proof at this link.

https://snl.fandom.com/wiki/Barack_Obama

On Saturday Night Live, he has been impersonated by Fred Armisen for more than 30 times until May 12, 2012 and by Jay Pharoah from September 15, 2012 and Obama himself made a cameo during the "Halloween Party" cold opening sketch on the November 3, 2007 episode where he also started the show by uttering the famous line, "Live from New York, it's Saturday Night!".

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
134. The FCC exempts talk shows.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 05:41 PM
Nov 2024
Talk shows and other regular news programming from syndicators, such as Entertainment Tonight, are also declared exempt from the rule by the FCC on a case-by-case basis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-time_rule

Raven123

(7,794 posts)
58. There is a difference between "ask" and "offer."
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:41 PM
Nov 2024

Would be interested in knowing if TFG was offered time and refused.

 

kelly1mm

(5,756 posts)
105. NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:34 AM
Nov 2024

NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race. NBC gave Donald Trump’s campaign commercial time free of charge during Sunday’s NASCAR playoff race, an exchange made to stay compliant with the Federal Communication Commission’s “equal time” rule, according to a new report in The Hollywood Reporter.

The former president took advantage of the situation by airing an ad immediately following the race, in which he spoke directly to the camera while intoning about an economic “depression” that he predicted would come if Vice President Kamala Harris wins the presidential election on Tuesday.

The network was forced to give up the airtime after it featured Harris for about 90 seconds during its “cold open” sketch on this weekend’s episode of Saturday Night Live—though it remains unclear whether the Trump campaign will request more time.

Initech

(108,773 posts)
59. Oh this is a steaming pile of certified grade A bullshit.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:41 PM
Nov 2024

Trump trashed SNL for 8 years straight because they made fun of him. This wasn't a problem until he stole the presidency. The only thing SNL owes him is a straight up middle finger. 🖕

 

kelly1mm

(5,756 posts)
106. It is not the show, but the network. NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:36 AM
Nov 2024

NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race. NBC gave Donald Trump’s campaign commercial time free of charge during Sunday’s NASCAR playoff race, an exchange made to stay compliant with the Federal Communication Commission’s “equal time” rule, according to a new report in The Hollywood Reporter.

The former president took advantage of the situation by airing an ad immediately following the race, in which he spoke directly to the camera while intoning about an economic “depression” that he predicted would come if Vice President Kamala Harris wins the presidential election on Tuesday.

The network was forced to give up the airtime after it featured Harris for about 90 seconds during its “cold open” sketch on this weekend’s episode of Saturday Night Live—though it remains unclear whether the Trump campaign will request more time.

Blue_Roses

(13,879 posts)
64. WTF is this?
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:49 PM
Nov 2024

I've never heard of this rule and there have been several presidential candidates on SNL.

 

kelly1mm

(5,756 posts)
107. If you use Google you can read all about the rule. NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:38 AM
Nov 2024

NBC gave him free time during the Sunday NASCAR race. NBC gave Donald Trump’s campaign commercial time free of charge during Sunday’s NASCAR playoff race, an exchange made to stay compliant with the Federal Communication Commission’s “equal time” rule, according to a new report in The Hollywood Reporter.

The former president took advantage of the situation by airing an ad immediately following the race, in which he spoke directly to the camera while intoning about an economic “depression” that he predicted would come if Vice President Kamala Harris wins the presidential election on Tuesday.

The network was forced to give up the airtime after it featured Harris for about 90 seconds during its “cold open” sketch on this weekend’s episode of Saturday Night Live—though it remains unclear whether the Trump campaign will request more time.

Johonny

(26,178 posts)
67. Trump appeared over and over again on weekend update
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:03 PM
Nov 2024

As the butt of jokes.

And I bet SNL offered Trump a chance to appear.

Montauk6

(9,339 posts)
71. Trump hosted an entire episode, what are THEY whining about?
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:10 PM
Nov 2024

And given his various appearances over the years, I'd say Mamala has a balance!

Lulu KC

(8,893 posts)
80. For the love of Pete
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:30 PM
Nov 2024

So give him five minutes on…..what? America’s Funniest Home Videos?

Emrys

(9,100 posts)
84. Ahem. "A spokesperson for the FCC issued a statement:
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:34 PM
Nov 2024
“The FCC has not made any determination regarding political programming rules, nor have we received a complaint from any interested parties.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/03/harris-appearance-snl-equal-time-rule
 

kelly1mm

(5,756 posts)
114. This Equal Time rule:
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:50 AM
Nov 2024
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-time_rule

"The equal-time rule (47 U.S. Code § 315 - Candidates for public office[1]) specifies that American radio and television broadcast stations must provide equivalent access to competing political candidates. This means, for example, that if a station broadcasts a message by a candidate, it must offer the same amount of time on the same terms to an opposing candidate.[2]

Details
This rule originated in §18 of the Radio Act of 1927 which established the Federal Radio Commission; it was later superseded by the Communications Act of 1934, with the FRC becoming the FCC, the Federal Communications Commission. A related provision, in §315(b), requires that broadcasters offer time to candidates at the same rate as their "most favored advertiser".

The equal-time rule was created due to concerns that broadcast stations could easily manipulate the outcome of elections by presenting just one point of view and excluding other candidates."

Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Orrex

(67,111 posts)
108. I made that prediction on FB yesterday
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:38 AM
Nov 2024

Well, they can let Trump appear on SNL next week.

oldmanlynn

(821 posts)
116. Reagan got rid of the fairness doctrine back in the 80s
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:52 AM
Nov 2024

Since then there is no equal time doctrine or rule.

onenote

(46,139 posts)
117. The equal time rule is a separate rule and was not impacted by the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:53 AM
Nov 2024

Google is your friend.

dchill

(42,660 posts)
125. The FCC commissioner must think that putting Trump on TV...
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 05:29 PM
Nov 2024

... somehow helps him. That's pretty funny, actually. I think it helps Harris/Walz. YOMV.

pamdb

(1,439 posts)
126. equal time
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 05:39 PM
Nov 2024

1. Hasn't the presidential candidate (democrat) been appearing on SNL for a few years?

2. They gave trump 2 two minute spots yesterday so he could lie all he wanted.

3. Cry me a river.

k55f5r

(520 posts)
127. I'm all for
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 05:49 PM
Nov 2024

For bringing back the fairness doctrine. Republicans, be careful what you ask for.

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