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yellowcanine

(36,792 posts)
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 11:46 AM Nov 2024

Trump is going to find out that MEN care about reproductive rights also.

Since Dobbs Trump has focused on men, knowing that he needs to offset the women who are motivated by reproductive rights. But this is a very narrow view. Many men are motivated by Dobbs. They are concerned for wives, daughters, granddaughters etc. as well as recognizing what bad policy abortion restrictions are for society, aside from the personal impact. Trump has appeared to realize very late that the focus on men only is backfiring, hence the clumsy attempt to pander to women with the creepy "I will protect women whether they like it or not." Which by the way, pisses off men as well. Who wants their wife, daughter, granddaughter, or sister protected by Trump? No one except perhaps a MAGA cultist and it might even be a stretch for them. Vote!

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Walleye

(44,807 posts)
2. I think if they are counting on young men to come out and vote for them they're going to be disappointed.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 11:48 AM
Nov 2024

Gotta get them off the couch first

LAS14

(15,506 posts)
6. Precisely!!!! That's one of the 3 groups I'm counting on.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:11 PM
Nov 2024

Young male Trump voters who can't be bothered to get up and find a polling place.

Along with women who are lying to their husbands and pollsters and.... and.... Hang on, it'll come to me...

Oh!!! Those people who pay absolutely no attention to politics until a few days before a national election. They don't have social media feeds. They don't watch the news. Around Nov 1 they start to think about who they'll vote for. They see some recent clips of Trump's rallies and say to themselves, "No way!" and vote for Harris/Walz.

CrispyQ

(40,970 posts)
5. Huge medical debt forced on women & their families due to waiting until her health is critical to allow treatment.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:07 PM
Nov 2024

I can't believe what I just typed is happening in the USA. We are denying women life saving medical care.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
11. But we have to supply the rich with
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:34 PM
Nov 2024

a labor force of poor desperate families willing to take whatever peanuts they offer.

And cannon fodder. Poor people often see the military as a way out.

Women bear the brunt of this in their own bodies, but the impacts are very widespread - and deliberate.

CrispyQ

(40,970 posts)
13. And they try to pit us against each other & one side has fallen for it completely & thinks we're the enemy.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:49 PM
Nov 2024

This meme went around in 2016 when Bernie was running. I love it. You could easily replace "economy" with "political system" or "government."

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
16. The political-industrial complex
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 05:13 PM
Nov 2024

Used to be a year. Then two years. Now it starts the day after the election.

No other country does this. Health care, guns, elections: American exceptionalism.

Think of what that money could do...

But what I was thinking of was more like this, the use of the political machine to funnel money into deep pockets.

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Congressional Budget Office

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,897 posts)
7. With Kamala Harris as POTUS...MAGA women...
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:12 PM
Nov 2024

Will find that they too retain FREEDOM and autonomy over their bodies "whether they like it or not".

That they will be FREE to vote "whether they like it or not."

That they will still be able to DREAM, aspire to be better, and achieve their goals "whether they like it or not."

MAGA women will eventually break from the bonds and chains that keep them down, "whether they like it or not" to realize that they LIKE what Kamala Harris is selling. That there is more that unites US than separates us.

TSExile

(3,363 posts)
8. We don't want men to protect us.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:15 PM
Nov 2024

What we do want are sane men who will call out the crap that the RAPIST and his ilk are spewing. We want solidarity!!

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