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yardwork

(69,643 posts)
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 02:43 PM Nov 2024

My predictions

I've never done this before! Please add your predictions to the thread.

I feel very confident that:

- Kamala Harris will win both the popular vote and electoral college by clear margins. The decision will come fairly quickly.

- Harris will win most of the swing states outright, with the Georgia decision coming in late (maybe weeks later) and not being essential to her win.

- The political careers of Donald Trump, JD Vance, and Ron DeSantis are over. Vance will not run for reelection to the senate. Trump and DeSantis will never win their party's nomination for anything again.

- Nikki Haley will be back, a contender for the 2028 GOP nomination. Liz Cheney will run, too.

- The Republican Party will quietly begin to dismantle abortion as a key issue in their platform. Some states will roll back draconian anti-abortion laws.

- With the loss of anti-abortion as a motivating principle, American Protestant churches will have to grapple with their purpose and goals. Many churches will close due to declining membership.

- The impacts of climate change on the economy, national security, infrastructure, and geo-political disruptions will accelerate and become far more important to voters in the near future.

- Meddling by billionaire sociopaths and leaders of Russia, China, Iran, and others will continue, especially in online propaganda, fueled by AI. Young people and aging people will be especially susceptible. Due to this misinformation, it will become more difficult to predict voting patterns by age and other demographics.

Things I'm fairly sure will happen...

- I think Harris may win some surprise states. While she might lose some swing states everyone's been watching, I think she might win Ohio, Iowa, possibly others. (Definitely not TX, though. Not yet.)

- I think the Democrats might retake the House and keep the Senate tied, with Walz as the tie-breaker.

- I don't think there will be any significant post election civil disruptions like we saw in 2022. I think the MAGATs are disillusioned and will fade away for a while, to return again one day....

- I fear that Putin and Iran will escalate things in the Middle East, creating as big a problem as they can for Harris's incoming administration. Their goal is to wipe Israel off the face of the earth and divide Democrats. This will be the cause of civil disruptions in the U.S.

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My predictions (Original Post) yardwork Nov 2024 OP
That was stellar! I agree just about everything' ALBliberal Nov 2024 #1
Please share your thoughts! yardwork Nov 2024 #3
Likewise!! Great predictions onetexan Nov 2024 #10
Thanks! yardwork Nov 2024 #14
I am going along with most of this Tetrachloride Nov 2024 #2
Ohio is a hunch and I could be wrong. yardwork Nov 2024 #5
from your fingers to god's ears ... nt DURHAM D Nov 2024 #4
Thanks, sweetie! yardwork Nov 2024 #6
Amen DURHAM D Nov 2024 #7
I think the republicans will be very surprised and dismayed tomorrow. brer cat Nov 2024 #8
I think the GOP already knows... yardwork Nov 2024 #13
Well done! I'm with you. MLAA Nov 2024 #9
Thanks! I hope we're right! yardwork Nov 2024 #11
I'm in TX and don't anticipate it going blue yet - TBF Nov 2024 #12
Wouldn't that be great! yardwork Nov 2024 #15
You've already nailed a couple of points. lees1975 Nov 2024 #16
Yeah, several of these are gimmees. yardwork Nov 2024 #19
Harris wins 5%. Expect upsets. Gain house seats 10-20 FloridaBlues Nov 2024 #17
I like your predictions! yardwork Nov 2024 #18
Capitalism (as we know it) will be forced to evolve. Duncan Grant Nov 2024 #20
Jeez, Duncan! lol! yardwork Nov 2024 #21
I like your predictions! Mortos Nov 2024 #22
I'm out on a limb with that prediction. Here's my reasoning. yardwork Nov 2024 #23
Thiel has too much invested in Vance. SergeStorms Nov 2024 #28
Agree, except not so sure about Texas. Susan Calvin Nov 2024 #24
I'm saying not Texas. yardwork Nov 2024 #32
Yes, I read that in the OP. nt Susan Calvin Nov 2024 #33
Sorry! I totally misunderstood! yardwork Nov 2024 #34
I've been hearing firsthand Susan Calvin Nov 2024 #35
I believe your predictions are spot on. sheshe2 Nov 2024 #25
I'm in Florida and tsf's signs are a fraction of previous elections. rubbersole Nov 2024 #26
I'm picking Florida as my super-sized surprise. WheelWalker Nov 2024 #30
Harris by 5% or more in the popular vote...... SergeStorms Nov 2024 #27
I can't wait for Lindsey to turn a whiter shade of pale. WheelWalker Nov 2024 #29
I predict the collapse of the Republican Party jmowreader Nov 2024 #31

brer cat

(27,684 posts)
8. I think the republicans will be very surprised and dismayed tomorrow.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 02:53 PM
Nov 2024

Kamala will beat all expectations. Yes, I'm feeling very optimistic.

yardwork

(69,643 posts)
13. I think the GOP already knows...
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 02:58 PM
Nov 2024

I'm guessing there is some frantic damage-control planning going on right now. I suspect there will be vengeance against Trump and his allies. Expect in-fighting.

TBF

(37,167 posts)
12. I'm in TX and don't anticipate it going blue yet -
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 02:57 PM
Nov 2024

I'd love to be wrong. I feel like a state that continues to put Abbott in the governor's seat is not quite there yet. BUT if we could possibly kick Ted Cruz to the curb, it will make my day!

lees1975

(7,190 posts)
16. You've already nailed a couple of points.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 03:15 PM
Nov 2024
- With the loss of anti-abortion as a motivating principle, American Protestant churches will have to grapple with their purpose and goals. Many churches will close due to declining membership.


Evangelicals are already in this boat. The largest Evangelical denomination, the Southern Baptist Convention, has lost 3.2 million members since 2016, which is over 20% of their total membership. They have churches closing literally every week.

- The Republican Party will quietly begin to dismantle abortion as a key issue in their platform. Some states will roll back draconian anti-abortion laws.


At Trump's direction, neither a national abortion ban, or opposition to gay marriage is in the platform. He sold out his Evangelical constituency when he realized abortion was going to be a massive vote getter for the Democrats. Most of them have paid no attention, are too dumb to know what he did, or don't care because that wasn't what was driving their support for him, it was just a ruse in conversation.

yardwork

(69,643 posts)
19. Yeah, several of these are gimmees.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 03:36 PM
Nov 2024

I'm risk-averse.

I'm just looking at the big picture of what's ahead.

FloridaBlues

(4,684 posts)
17. Harris wins 5%. Expect upsets. Gain house seats 10-20
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 03:29 PM
Nov 2024

Keep senate. Change statehouses more than we have done last election.
Expect republican lawsuits.

Duncan Grant

(8,938 posts)
20. Capitalism (as we know it) will be forced to evolve.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 03:48 PM
Nov 2024

I believe we have no choice; implement a sustainable economic system or die. (Also, I’m fun to talk to at parties.)

Mortos

(2,454 posts)
22. I like your predictions!
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 04:43 PM
Nov 2024

Except, no way Vance doesn't run for re-election in the Senate. That little prick is burrowed in like a tick.

yardwork

(69,643 posts)
23. I'm out on a limb with that prediction. Here's my reasoning.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 04:49 PM
Nov 2024

Vance has proven to be a shockingly bad campaigner. He's good in televised debates because he lies smoothly, but he can't interact with humans.

I think Vance will be blamed for Trump's loss. Vance will have failed to deliver a single state that wasn't already in Trump's column. Vance might even lose his home state of OH (This would delight me.)

He might win reelection to the senate but he might decide instead that there are easier ways to make money. I think he's a smart sociopath who will decide to pivot, change his colors like he does, and disappear into billionaire land.

SergeStorms

(20,811 posts)
28. Thiel has too much invested in Vance.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 05:59 PM
Nov 2024

He wants at least a minimal ROI. Vance will remain in politics for some time to come.

Susan Calvin

(2,469 posts)
24. Agree, except not so sure about Texas.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 05:41 PM
Nov 2024

I am clinging to my possibly irrational hope there. This message originates from Texas.

Susan Calvin

(2,469 posts)
35. I've been hearing firsthand
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 07:39 PM
Nov 2024

Of quite a few Republicans voting for Harris. Also Beto O'Rourke's organization has been registering massive numbers of new young voters. And even though Harris is polling behind, Allred is polling even. One can hope.

sheshe2

(98,451 posts)
25. I believe your predictions are spot on.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 05:44 PM
Nov 2024

Something is happening, you can feel it, a ground swell. I felt the same with Obama. You could almost hear it if you listened hard enough.

I think women, women of color and yes, the youth vote, thanks to the likes of Victor Shi, David Hogg and Tayor Swift to name a few, are going to help swing it.

It's not the close race they say it is, the 'polls' are pretty much bogus. I look at the numbers and the genuine excitement of Kamala's rallys.

We can and will do this.

Thank you Yardwork!

rubbersole

(11,277 posts)
26. I'm in Florida and tsf's signs are a fraction of previous elections.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 05:50 PM
Nov 2024

Rick Scott is a pos and unpopular everywhere. Mail-in ballots are counted as they arrive. Pot and abortion are on the ballot. I think it will be the shocker of Tuesday night that Florida is called for Harris. By midnight. (Hey, I've been called Pollyanna before.)

SergeStorms

(20,811 posts)
27. Harris by 5% or more in the popular vote......
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 05:53 PM
Nov 2024

and 306 electoral college votes (yes, the exact same number as Biden in 2020).

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. 😁

jmowreader

(53,395 posts)
31. I predict the collapse of the Republican Party
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 06:41 PM
Nov 2024

The best way to describe the GOP we've got now is "strange bedfellows" - their big tent houses both people who'd disband the Marines if it meant we could use the savings to fund another tax cut and people whose draconian social policies will require a massive increase in both the size of the government and the size of your tax bill if even part of it gets adopted. Romania's abortion ban doubled the size of the government and it'll be worse in the US because Romania has the landmass of Oregon and the population of Florida. (Romania also had a communist dictator so evil he scared the Soviets, which also helped.)

After Trump gets stomped, there will be a come-to-Jesus moment in their party. The first group will argue the reason they lost the election is the greater American populace and even a lot of Republicans didn't like the social proposals the second group came up with. They'll point out things like women dying in Texas from failed pregnancies doctors won't intervene in and OB/GYNs abandoning Idaho. The other group will counter that the reason they lost is they didn't go far enough to the right - that people really want the Republic of Gilead from A Handmaid's Tale (well, maybe not the part where food labels just have a picture of what's in the can so those nasty wimminfolk won't think we're allowing them to read) and if it wasn't for you assholes we'd have it.

Endstate: we get a "No Taxes At All Republican Party" and a "You Will Be The Kind Of Christian We Want You To Be Republican Party," each taking half the current GOP electorate, and neither of which will ever win an election because even Idaho can glom together four Democrats for every six of the other two parties combined.

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