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KS Toronado

(22,078 posts)
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 03:56 PM Nov 2024

Kamala's "to-do" list addition

Everyone making less than $15 an hour gets a $.05 cent raise every week until they reach $15. Places
that have raised wages by a dollar over night whine & cry about how it'll hurt their bottom line, run them
out of business etc.

5 cents times 40 hours is only 2 dollars a week, lot harder to whine to the public about a 5 cent raise.

Plus 5 cents every week is $ 2.60 a year, that's better than a dollar and so gradual business will be able
to adapt.

Now consider the millions of people who in one year will have an extra $104 dollars in their weekly
pay checks and that they will be spending most of that on products.

Companies will have to hire additional workers to keep up with demand, so fewer drawing unemployment,
more people able to afford their food, clothing, & shelter so fewer people in jail, fewer jails needed.

Plus when the next midterms get here it's "Kamala's economy rocks" give her more Ds in the House
and Senate to work her magic. A real trickle up economy, plus Rs will look small complaining about $.05.

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Kamala's "to-do" list addition (Original Post) KS Toronado Nov 2024 OP
Gotta pay the employees enough to afford your product. Doesn't work otherwise. Walleye Nov 2024 #1
Henry Ford figured that out when he was still making Model Ts. KS Toronado Nov 2024 #2
What we really need is a living wage, rather than a minimum wage. DJ Synikus Makisimus Nov 2024 #3
We have millions of people not earning a living wage KS Toronado Nov 2024 #4
I'm sick to death of gradualism. DJ Synikus Makisimus Nov 2024 #5
No offense intended DJ Synikus Makisimus KS Toronado Nov 2024 #6

KS Toronado

(22,078 posts)
2. Henry Ford figured that out when he was still making Model Ts.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 04:14 PM
Nov 2024

Greed is what stops businesses from learning from it.

DJ Synikus Makisimus

(1,121 posts)
3. What we really need is a living wage, rather than a minimum wage.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 04:17 PM
Nov 2024

That varies by location and is much more difficult to calculate and implement. While one may be able to live on $15/hr in some areas, in places like New York City, San Francisco and Hawai'i it's not remotely sufficient. Something similar is true for folks living on Social Security. Federal employees get cost-of-living adjustments to their pay depending on where they work, so the basic math is there. But folks running the government have always taken the easy way out and standardized what shouldn't be. One size doesn't fit all.

We also need to reduce the workweek so that full time work is 32 hours per week. We've been stuck at 40 for far too long. Lots to do.

KS Toronado

(22,078 posts)
4. We have millions of people not earning a living wage
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 04:36 PM
Nov 2024

If we start by helping those making less then $15, those making more than $15 will increase also.

"Why should I work outside digging ditches for $15 when I can go inside at Micky Ds and earn $15?"
Boss..."You're right we'd hate to lose you , how much do you need to stay here?"

So it helps everybody.

DJ Synikus Makisimus

(1,121 posts)
5. I'm sick to death of gradualism.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 05:11 PM
Nov 2024

No offense intended, KS Toronado, but $15/hr minimum wage was an effective attention-getter for Bernie in the late 90s. And there's still resistance from vulture capitalists and their lackeys like Joe Manchin whose fortune sits on the backs of underpaid workers. Prices of basic living essentials have risen about 100% in the meantime. A living wage demand would scare the living shit out of investment fund operators and corporate boards, and rightly so. We need to force corporations and oligarchs to understand the concept of "enough." How many workers must starve and die to make one billionaire? Profit accruing to the wealthy needs to decrease if we're going to have anything near to economic justice, which is probably impossible in such a pro-big-capitalist system. But one can try. Make big demands loudly, then expect that they'll get whittled down.

We also don't stress enough that workers aren't "given" jobs by some imaginary "benevolent capitalist CREATING jobs." Workers SELL THEIR LABOR in a marketplace that's enormously weighted to the advantage of the employers who buy it, so that those employers may profit from their work. The avenue for change in the past has been labor unions, but only about 10% of workers belong to them, less among the lowest-paid workers. Capitalists and their political surrogates have been attacking unions from day one, but especially since the 1950s, when workers started using strikes and other tactics to make real gains. Long past time this whole scenario gets stood on its head.

KS Toronado

(22,078 posts)
6. No offense intended DJ Synikus Makisimus
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 06:00 PM
Nov 2024

but why don't you go write an OP about how you would make generous oligarchs with big pocket books
happy to pay their workers more.

I wrote this to help the poorest among us and hopefully to get them to vote Democrat down the road
because they finally see the light of which party really cares about them. Can you add to this?

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