Stop "win-washing"

[GenThePerservering]

The race is NOT over, the election is NOT finished.

Too many races have been lost when the one who thought they won starts celebrating before the finish line and gets beaten at the line.

Keep going!! I was out circulating today to get out the vote. EVERY VOTE.

[redstatebluegirl]

1. Thank you!!!!

We need down ballot too! EVERY VOTE COUNTS!

[LizBeth]

2. Always so damn appreciate someone to call out hopefuls and positive and let them know

what for, am I right? I do not get this and yet we always have it.

[birdographer]

14. What would be do without them?

[LizBeth]

30. Right? That is all I am thinking.

[bikes and bunnies]

25. I am no appreciate fractured English

Sorry, but I've noticed it takes me much longer to understand badly written English than it does to understand well written English.

Could people take a moment to proof read before clicking "post?"

[LizBeth]

31. And here is another, lmfao... nah, just scroll on by.

[bikes and bunnies]

38. Nah, me English OK

?

Why not learn from your mistakes?

"Nah."

[LizBeth]

40. wow

[littlemissmartypants]

44. Grammar nazis?

Who needs them?

The finger wagging is out of control here sometimes. They might need to learn how to doom scroll with those wagging fingers.





❤️

[bikes and bunnies]

48. Baloney

No one here is a Nazi- grammar or otherwise.

Just proof read, if you care about whether or not others can read what you've written.
It's clear to me that some people don't care.

What epithet shall we call them? Grammar slobs?

[littlemissmartypants]

49. ...

[LizBeth]

52. Actually, I told you I did not care, and that wasn't good enough for you, remember? Lol.

That nah... scroll on past.

[LizBeth]

50. Lol... right?

[littlemissmartypants]

60. Absolutely, right. Most of us here are actually adults.

The rest need home visits from Emily Post, apparently.

[MerryBlooms]

59. wtf? This post doesn't belong on DU. DISGUSTING

[MLAA]

46. Chill, not everyone has your command of the language or has fatter fingers on their iPhone 😂

[MerryBlooms]

55. Wow, way to go full on non acceptable esl! Well done! 😖😖😖

[kcr]

69. You seem to be the only one who had a hard time understanding it

Reading comprehension is equally an important skill.

[LizBeth]

70. Fuggin lmao. I read and reread and I understood. I mean I could add some words or punctuation

but otherwise. Lol... Arent we happy today! Looks like my offer was accepted for a condo in Portland too!!! Life is good. Cheers...

[Hellbound Hellhound]

63. Complacency led to the first Trump regime, and many who tried to warn others were shouted down.

"We have this in the bag!" "He'll never get elected!" "No one's stupid enough to vote for him!"

I hold those people just as accountable as those who voted for the orange menace. EVERY election is dire, and overconfidence is as much a killer as apathy.

A moment of laxity spawns a lifetime of heresy.

[LizBeth]

66. MANY things contributed to. And at the very least I acknowledge instead of pretending

it was ALL about overconfidence. Not even close.

[getagrip_already]

3. I get it, but then again...

Link to tweet

?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1853551763363942455%7Ctwgr%5E3e39eef8e6c116de10177254f6f89222dbeabdfd%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2F100219653723

[LizBeth]

4. This is what I am thinking, maybe poster ought to address Harris!

[GenThePerservering]

6. Harris doesn't need "addressing"

she's already fighting the good fight.

[LizBeth]

8. I think most in this forum doesn't NEED addressing either, hence my post.

[GenThePerservering]

5. Momentum is on our side

absolutely! We have to keep going over the finish line!

I was a competitive athlete for years -I've seen enough races lost at the line to say a powerful finish is the best finish

110% - even if you think Kamala has a lock, the more votes the better.

BURY HIM.

[wnylib]

29. In 2008, I was at the local Dem headquarters

on election night. I had been phone banking here in NY and going to western PA to do house to house canvassing for Obama throughout the campaign.

On election night, I paused to check TV reports of results coming in from Eastern states where polls had closed. Other callers remained on the phones, still calling western states as the East and Midwest results were being reported.

The callers were in a separate room from the TV so they did not know how things were going. We finally had to tell them that they should join us to watch McCain's concession speech and Obama's victory appearance.

[littlemissmartypants]

47. I love this! ❤️

[sir pball]

57. In my competitive running days, winning a few races...

My coach would always say "If you don't have anybody in front of you…that just means you need to run even faster."

Yeah yeah, it was high school, but the advice still holds.

[regnaD kciN]

7. Funny...I see a lot more "doom-washing" here...

Nothing wrong with being hopeful, even confident, as long as we get the job done.

[LizBeth]

10. Right but there always has to be someone to get us all in line like we are not already there.

Not a follower and dont need someone yelling at me to behave certain ways, like most all of us have not figured it out already.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

67. No kidding!

We're all adults and don't need scolding.

[DeepWinter]

9. Agree

To think "This isn't 2016, this is completely different" is the first step to disaster. GOTV

[birdographer]

15. Ok.... whatever you say

But this *isn't* 2016 and this *is* completely different.... But okay.... As you wish. (If you need to ask why, I don't think you would understand/approve of the answer, so just let's just agree to disagree...🙂

[BannonsLiver]

22. It's not 2016 though.

It’s its own thing.

[onecaliberal]

51. It's not. Hundreds of thousands of his previous supporters are dead from covid.

That’s just a fact.

[GenThePerservering]

11. Just keeping going

and take nothing for granted. Simple message - all in until the last minute.

[COL Mustard]

34. From "Finding Nemo"

Just keep swimming
Just keep swimming

[Cha]

12. I agree & call me superstitious But

I don't want to JINX It!

!🕊️🕯️💙🌊🌊🌊💙🇺🇸🌈

[Metaphorical]

13. I voted, and have been encouraging others to vote

In 2016, I had a bad feeling on the Monday before the election - I didn't think that Clinton was going to win it. There was a lot of arrogance at work on the Dem side, Clinton's campaign was too divisive, too many people were still bitter about Sanders, and it seemed like every week there was just one more thing coming out of right field that likely , yet I also had a strong feeling that Trump was doing a lot better than the polls indicated.

2024, on the other hand, was getting worrisome through July, then Biden withdrew in favor of Kamala. She has, since then, waged one of the most flawless campaigns I've seen in forty years. She's built coalitions, she has avoided any scandal, she has defined her opponent far more than Trump was able to define her, she has even managed to make the media sit up and beg, despite the deck being very much stacked against her, and she has done it with a laugh and a smile. Trump, on the other hand, has gone from one dumpster fire to another, quite literally in one case, has watched as his crowds have dwindled so that he can't even fit small venues, and has outstayed his welcome.

If she loses after all that, it's because the system has become so compromised that no one could fairly win against Trump, yet, what I'm seeing is that Trump's campaign staff is already shopping their resumes. This is not the sign of a campaign that thinks it's going to win, or even get within challenging distance.

Now, it's possible that the polls are perfectly correct, that the race is incredibly tight, and Trump could pull off an EC upset, but neither the evidence nor the vibes mesh up with this particular scenario. I don't believe it's going to be a blowout, but nor do I think there will be any doubt that she won, except in Trump's Aderall-ravaged mind.

[Frank D. Lincoln]

19. Well-argued, well-stated.

Insightful, too.

[COL Mustard]

36. I think the garbage truck thing

Was Trump’s Mike Dukakis in the tank moment. I can’t wait to watch the post mortem on the Republican side.

[orangecrush]

16. My thoughts exactly

[Prairie Gates]

17. This post convinces me that it's past time to stop washing-washing

[iemanja]

18. Claiming it's over is insane

People project their own dreams onto this election, and it's not wise.

[Frank D. Lincoln]

26. Claiming it's over.

If Democrats were to prematurely claim it's over and then sit on our asses doing nothing, then that would be insane.

But that's not what's happening.

Whereas, Democrats boldly predicting that we're going to win (or expressing optimism that we're going to win), and for very sound reasons, but nonetheless continuing to work our asses off until the last vote is cast is confidence.

That IS happening.

Even the Harris-Walz campaign no longer consider themselves underdogs.

[iemanja]

27. That's not the same as claiming it's over

What you describe is quite productive.

[Frank D. Lincoln]

41. If that's not the same as claiming that it's over then no one has ever claimed that it's over.

I don't recall ever reading even one post at DU (or anywhere else for that matter) in which someone predicted a Harris win and then advocated (or even implied) that Democrats should prematurely stop campaigning and stop voting. So, in my opinion, the OP is based on a false premise.

[iemanja]

42. I do

It was more than a month ago. The poster said people should stop contributing to the Harris campaign and give the money elsewhere. That same OP posted another, similar thread.

But really, you should be arguing with the OP, not me. He's the one who is telling people to stop saying it's over.

[LizBeth]

54. This... is my point too. We just do not do that one DU. OK, we won, lets all stop and go home.

[Cirsium]

20. We can't control that

I don't know if any races have been lost because the candidate who thought they won started celebrating before the finish line and then lost as a result of celebrating prematurely. But even if that is true, what are we supposed to do about that?

Do you think there are candidates who are celebrating prematurely?

[GenThePerservering]

62. We stop working

To celebrate early.

This wasn't a complicated post, people - it doesn't warrant all of this analysis - it was just a warning to keep moving forward and do not slack, do not celebrate prematurely. Keep the eye on the ball.

Dewey v Truman

And no matter who wins? WE KEEP STRIVING. I fear complaisance like I fear the devil.

[LizBeth]

72. I have more faith in the community here, have been here a long time. Pretty damn sure not a soul on Du

is doing that.

[Cirsium]

74. Maybe

I see momentum, the "bandwagon' effect, as much more important. Do people really stop working because they think we are ahead? Maybe in sports that applies, I dunno. You know what I am more worried about? People disengaging after a Harris win, which is what I think happened in 2008-2010. The important work starts after the election.

By the way, I think Harris has handled this perfectly. She says "we are the underdog" to address your concerns, but then says "make no mistake, we will win" to keep the momentum going.

Dewey hardly campaigned at all. We don't have that problem with Harris/Walz, to say the least. Here is a interesting tidbit from the 1948 race. Left wing progressive Henry Wallace got 1,157,172 votes. Openly racist right winger Strom Thurmond got fewer than that - 1,119,021. Yet Thurmond got 39 electoral votes and Wallace got none. (Thurmond carried Louisiana, South Carolina, Alabama and Mississippi). Gotta love that electoral college.

In the 2016 cycle many of us were disappointed that Clinton did not give Michigan more attention. It seemed her campaign took Michigan for granted.

ll of these cliches..."keep your eyes on the prize" etc. Reminds me of a sign in a shop I worked in.

"Keep your eye on the ball, your shoulder to the wheel and your ear to the ground. Now, try to work in that position!"

[BannonsLiver]

21. Yeah because over confidence has been a real problem here the last few months on Doom Underground

[LizBeth]

33. This... actually made me lol. lol

[wendyb-NC]

23. Thank you

[TomSlick]

24. It's looking good but it ain't over until it's over.

Take nothing for granted. GOTV!

[proud patriot]

28. to the finish line

[SleeplessinSoCal]

32. I'm glad she's not referring to the underdog status.

It's just nice to see voting fun again.

[ffr]

35. K&R Spiking the ball on the 2 yard line will only complicate Harris's mandate.

We need a crushing defeat after every voter who could have cast a ballot for Harris/Walz has done so.

Get off the pollercoaster people!!!

Thank you for posting.

[liberal N proud]

37. it's all just heightening everyone's anxiety

Right now, I need some meds or alcohol.

Alcohol is more readily available

[LW1977]

39. And trashed

[iemanja]

43. Why the performative announcement of trashing

when you and others could simply trash it and move on?

[GreenWave]

45. Now head for the hills when the landslide comes.

[Just_Vote_Dem]

53. "It's over Johnny!"

&t=1s&ab_channel=ZahhMan

[LymphocyteLover]

56. By all means make some calls if you are so inclined! I did it earlier today

https://events.democrats.org/event/735006/


otherwise, I'm not sure there's that much we can do at this point, unless you have a lot of friends and relatives you need to check to see if they voted

[LizBeth]

58. This may be another site for calls. Got three friends I know of making calls today and tomorrow if they are calling

and son is the one that gave it to me, making calls on the weekend.

https://go.kamalaharris.com/?fbclid=IwY2xjawGWTdhleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHcP-Zgd11Bz2OVotNOugHKOQJ9WgCGjH2dQa7ggP32OInyf1mqbtkriCqw_aem_DtUL1KsmNBB12yJNNrjsyA

[get the red out]

61. Sorry I forgot

As a Democrat I should have remembered that not having a feeling of dread was in poor taste. 😜

[kcr]

64. Kamala Harris is going to win

Time to start getting used to it.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

65. No.

Boo. Celebrating isn't gonna change the outcome. I'm tired of being shamed for my legitimate feelings.

[LizBeth]

73. You know what I said earlier, living in totally blue Eugene.... ?

I am gonna spend this day feeling good because if otherwise comes, will deal. BUT... we win, I got these twelve hours being happy and in the moment!!!

[GenThePerservering]

68. No one said that pleasure at

our gains was bad - they give joy. But take nothing for granted.

Good grief - why is commonsense so hard?

[Blue_Roses]

71. Thank-you!!