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MLAA

(19,641 posts)
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:18 AM Nov 2024

A lot of MAGA are going to be devastated and in shock.

They truly believe the polls, betting sites and Fox that TSF has lead and is favored to win. They are so deep in their the MAGA alternate reality/cult they have not used what little critical thinking they may possess to look deeper into the polls or other news sources to even consider a different point of view. Further, the impact of their Roe v Wade destruction will come as a surprise.

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A lot of MAGA are going to be devastated and in shock. (Original Post) MLAA Nov 2024 OP
I live in a red state exmodee Nov 2024 #1
People see what they want to see. TwilightZone Nov 2024 #8
That's exactly right. GaYellowDawg Nov 2024 #23
That was my problem in 2016, sitting moonscape Nov 2024 #37
Happens here, too. TwilightZone Nov 2024 #38
Agree. Yes. moonscape Nov 2024 #39
Same here Borogove Nov 2024 #9
Red portion of Bucks County PA FalloutShelter Nov 2024 #28
Not me. This is a huge turnout. The better the turnout, the better Democrats do. marble falls Nov 2024 #25
Welcome to DU! Delphinus Nov 2024 #32
Thanks exmodee Nov 2024 #36
I need to pick up some groceries Attilatheblond Nov 2024 #2
Good plan, lay low! MLAA Nov 2024 #4
They think the polls will miss like in 2016 and 2020 Johnny2X2X Nov 2024 #3
True! MLAA Nov 2024 #5
I think some may have seen the writing on the wall birdographer Nov 2024 #6
Outrage fatigue VMA131Marine Nov 2024 #11
Except his microphone Oppaloopa Nov 2024 #34
I'm ready to lay a comforting hand on their shoulder and whisper in their ear: Buns_of_Fire Nov 2024 #7
Yes! MLAA Nov 2024 #10
"Grab your blankie and seek your safe space, snowflake... Sky Jewels Nov 2024 #13
Or like my MAGAt mother mockingly said to me in 2016 phoenix_rising Nov 2024 #27
Yes. It will be their "2016" election, Sky Jewels Nov 2024 #12
The ones I saw on Twitter last night also thought that Rogan's endorsement had clinched the deal Emrys Nov 2024 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author ArkansasDemocrat1 Nov 2024 #31
Too early to say that, even though I think Harris will win karynnj Nov 2024 #15
It's 2000 for me Delarage Nov 2024 #16
I was shocked by the closeness of 2000 karynnj Nov 2024 #21
I think the Roe v Wade is a game changer, but as you say we will see tonight and over the next few days. MLAA Nov 2024 #17
Post removed Post removed Nov 2024 #18
That's interesting. Is he paying attention? The betting sites turned toward Harris over the weekend. lees1975 Nov 2024 #22
LOL Delarage Nov 2024 #26
Republicans are saying the same thing Wavelight Nov 2024 #19
Kamala has been saying that we're going to win for Emile Nov 2024 #30
Perfect time for this emoji liberalla Nov 2024 #20
They know. They are like the 2011 rapture people. Renew Deal Nov 2024 #24
He hasn't won an election yet. They shouldn't be Emile Nov 2024 #29
Are betting sites favoring Trump? Beartracks Nov 2024 #33
They were.... Blasphemer Nov 2024 #42
THis happened when Romney lost. I have a friend who believed Fox when their polls showed him winning and was devastated Amaryllis Nov 2024 #35
They are ignorant, illiterate, and insular Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #40
Broken Citizens Kid Berwyn Nov 2024 #41

exmodee

(42 posts)
1. I live in a red state
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:20 AM
Nov 2024

And nearly everyone I know is convinced T will win in a landslide. I worry what will happen tomorrow.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
8. People see what they want to see.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:32 AM
Nov 2024

They think that their little slice of the country is indicative of the rest of it. It's not. It's not representative of anything more than their little slice of the country. Sometimes, not even that.

GaYellowDawg

(5,071 posts)
23. That's exactly right.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:02 AM
Nov 2024

They think because the community and state is red, that all of America is red except for NYC, San Francisco, and LA. And to them, that's not "real America," so it doesn't count.

moonscape

(5,621 posts)
37. That was my problem in 2016, sitting
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:24 PM
Nov 2024

here on the Central CA Coast. No partof me saw anything other than a landslide for us.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
38. Happens here, too.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:34 PM
Nov 2024

In a community of mostly like-minded individuals like DU, it's really easy to think that what's presented here is indicative of what's happening everywhere else. That can lead to unrealistic expectations.

It's good in that it provides a refuge for Democrats and liberals and it can be an excellent source of information, but it can also isolate us a bit from the real world.

moonscape

(5,621 posts)
39. Agree. Yes.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 05:27 PM
Nov 2024

But in fairness, on our side we have to wrap our heads around the degree of uninformed crazy that exists. That’s a tough nut to absorb.

FalloutShelter

(14,083 posts)
28. Red portion of Bucks County PA
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 11:22 AM
Nov 2024

Looks like a very low turnout here. 50/50 women and men in pickup trucks with *rump signs.

The canvassers are still working it hard. Just as I arrived back home I gave a young lady from NY a big hug and told her I had just voted, thanked her for working so hard.

She really hugged me back. I live on a RED street. Said some of the neighbors had NOT been happy to see her so she appreciated a hug.

I have had 5 visits from canvassers and ZERO rethugs.




exmodee

(42 posts)
36. Thanks
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 02:46 PM
Nov 2024

I've been lurking for years, but I wanted to also spend time here during elections, debates, etc, so needed to make an account. Looking forward to reading all your smart takes tonight!

Attilatheblond

(8,022 posts)
2. I need to pick up some groceries
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:23 AM
Nov 2024

Gotta get my butt in gear to go out MUCH earlier than I usually shop. Don't even wanna be on the roads around here once the action gets started at polls and newsrooms. Not as many magas as there used to be here, but the remaining ones are real hot heads with low executive brain function. I pity our cops today.

Johnny2X2X

(23,648 posts)
3. They think the polls will miss like in 2016 and 2020
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:23 AM
Nov 2024

They don't know that the polls ahve been adjusted and Harris is ahead still. They also don't remember that it was Trump who closed strong in 2016 and 2020, the opposite happened this time. Harris was surging the last 10 days.

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
6. I think some may have seen the writing on the wall
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:28 AM
Nov 2024

Such poor attendance at his rallies, so many leaving early, I saw a Good Liars post yesterday where early leavers were saying it was "boring." The core cult members, the true hate-filled bigots, will be enraged, though.

VMA131Marine

(5,136 posts)
11. Outrage fatigue
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:37 AM
Nov 2024

Trump can only up the outrage factor so far at his rallies without crossing red lines even he won’t cross. The result is that Trump’s supporters are accustomed to their current level of outrage and Trump has nothing new to stimulate them anymore.

Buns_of_Fire

(18,950 posts)
7. I'm ready to lay a comforting hand on their shoulder and whisper in their ear:
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:30 AM
Nov 2024

"Fuck your feelings."

phoenix_rising

(323 posts)
27. Or like my MAGAt mother mockingly said to me in 2016
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 11:16 AM
Nov 2024

Last edited Tue Nov 5, 2024, 12:04 PM - Edit history (1)

“Awwww…poor baby, do you need some Play-Doh?”

Edited to add that I hear that most women over 65 are breaking for Harris. But the difference is that those women actually care about their daughters.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
12. Yes. It will be their "2016" election,
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:38 AM
Nov 2024

as in, they will feel the sickening surprise that makes one think the world has turned inside out, as we felt when their cult leader won.

GOOD.

Emrys

(8,884 posts)
14. The ones I saw on Twitter last night also thought that Rogan's endorsement had clinched the deal
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:47 AM
Nov 2024

They really are stuck in their own echo chamber. And half-witted to boot, in most cases.

Response to Emrys (Reply #14)

karynnj

(60,725 posts)
15. Too early to say that, even though I think Harris will win
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:47 AM
Nov 2024

Both sides see that their side should win.

I have to keep telling myself that I can't consider my town or state, VT, as representative. I can't consider my large, spread out over the country family typical. We aren't we are kind of split between very liberal, liberal and a few centrists - who are appalled by Trump. I certainly can't consider DU as representative.

My conclusion, I am so in as much a bubble as these Trump supporters in red states convinced that they are by far the majority Until the election is called, I will have this vague fear that in spite of all the incredible rallies things can go bad.

Many here speak of PTSD from 2016. I probably experienced more PTSD from 2004. Until the last week or two, it looked hopeless in the fall. Then at the very end things seemed to turn. On election day, we heard that Kerry was doing very well in exit polls. At the NJ Democratic county headquarters, there was euphoria. Every thing seemed possible ..... Until about 8 pm.

Delarage

(2,510 posts)
16. It's 2000 for me
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:53 AM
Nov 2024

With all the bullshit in Florida. I think that's when they really realized that it's good for them to pack the courts. I dissent. However....2004 and the bullshit in Ohio is a close second. Followed by 2016. OMG we need to win big today.....

karynnj

(60,725 posts)
21. I was shocked by the closeness of 2000
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:59 AM
Nov 2024

I also was also angry at the obvious voter suppression by defective ballots in Palm Beach etc, which should have been a HUGE source of Gore/Lieberman votes. If everyone's vote was counted as they intended, the exit polls would actually have been pretty accurate.

MLAA

(19,641 posts)
17. I think the Roe v Wade is a game changer, but as you say we will see tonight and over the next few days.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:54 AM
Nov 2024

Edited to correct typo

Response to MLAA (Original post)

lees1975

(6,869 posts)
22. That's interesting. Is he paying attention? The betting sites turned toward Harris over the weekend.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:59 AM
Nov 2024

Wavelight

(477 posts)
19. Republicans are saying the same thing
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:56 AM
Nov 2024

About us… “Democrats don’t realize that many Trump voters aren’t participating in polls, aren’t advertising their enthusiasm and are just shutting up and voting.” Most of those taking place on election day.

Their forums think that WE are the delusional ones.

I still believe that sites like this and a couple others I frequent have taken a long hard look at the granular data and trends, so I trust them more than a “gut feeling“.

I’m on a merry-go-round of emotions. I am cautiously optimistic. But I have not popped the cork on the champagne.

Renew Deal

(84,613 posts)
24. They know. They are like the 2011 rapture people.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:24 AM
Nov 2024

They know deep down that it's not happening.

Beartracks

(14,265 posts)
33. Are betting sites favoring Trump?
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 11:34 AM
Nov 2024

Maybe I should sign uo and put something on a Harris win... Hm.

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Blasphemer

(3,560 posts)
42. They were....
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 05:59 PM
Nov 2024

But, when I checked yesterday and the day before, they favored Harris. Now they favor Trump on one parameter (who will win) and Harris on another parameter (will she be the 47th president). Basically meaningless.

Amaryllis

(10,905 posts)
35. THis happened when Romney lost. I have a friend who believed Fox when their polls showed him winning and was devastated
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 12:24 PM
Nov 2024

incredulous when he lost. And it was because Dems stole the election. When i was growing up we all watched the same media. We didnt have parallel universes that never intersect. We had the three networks and PBS.


Dem4life1234

(2,532 posts)
40. They are ignorant, illiterate, and insular
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 05:32 PM
Nov 2024

Not everyone behaves like the people around them.

Kid Berwyn

(22,533 posts)
41. Broken Citizens
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 05:33 PM
Nov 2024

Oh, well. Too bad they can’t get the psychological care and medical treatment they so desperately need. If only there were universal healthcare!

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