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ScratchCat

(2,664 posts)
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:43 AM Nov 2024

All I keep hearing ' "I'm a Republican and I voted for Harris"

All last week, all weekend and it continues today. All over the country, every chat forum, in person stories ... its all I am hearing.

I don't get it. Are these folks lying? How could polls be close if this many Republicans aren't voting for him? I'm scratching my head. I feel like all rational evidence points to Harris winning "big", but I've got this weird feeling in my gut that I can't explain.

Crazy.

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All I keep hearing ' "I'm a Republican and I voted for Harris" (Original Post) ScratchCat Nov 2024 OP
The polls are garbage..... getagrip_already Nov 2024 #1
Polls of people who have already voted bare this out Johnny2X2X Nov 2024 #2
Polling could be off due to women fibbing Jersey Devil Nov 2024 #3
Here is an example Renew Deal Nov 2024 #4
I had a friend tell me over the weekend as well ScratchCat Nov 2024 #5
That's 12-12% Renew Deal Nov 2024 #8
As Ann Selzer explained, in her Iowa poll defense, lees1975 Nov 2024 #6
Keep away from bdamomma Nov 2024 #7
In my VERY republlican town-the former mayor is (and has been since August) sporting a Harris sign Dread Pirate Roberts Nov 2024 #9

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
1. The polls are garbage.....
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:53 AM
Nov 2024

For too many reasons to list.

Both physical design and human operator.

Johnny2X2X

(23,670 posts)
2. Polls of people who have already voted bare this out
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:56 AM
Nov 2024

They suggest 10% plus of Republicans are voting for Harris. We shall see soon enough.

Jersey Devil

(10,722 posts)
3. Polling could be off due to women fibbing
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 11:02 AM
Nov 2024

In a household with an autocratic Republican husband a call comes in on the wife's phone from a polling company while both husband and wife are sitting in the living room watching TV. The pollster asks her who she is voting for and she says Trump but when she actually votes she votes for Harris.

ScratchCat

(2,664 posts)
5. I had a friend tell me over the weekend as well
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 11:13 AM
Nov 2024

That Trump's internal polls are reporting that one in eight to one in five are saying they aren't voting for him and that's why we have been seeing the meltdown. He said the game plan was to pretend to be confident even though they know he is losing. The person who claims this routinely claims access to insider info, and we aren't really sure if its legit as he's been hit or miss. Just fwiw, I guess.

Renew Deal

(84,642 posts)
8. That's 12-12%
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 11:34 AM
Nov 2024

And generally in line with polls. Is that number actually concerning for them?

lees1975

(6,888 posts)
6. As Ann Selzer explained, in her Iowa poll defense,
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 11:25 AM
Nov 2024

They try to listen to what the data is telling them, and form a conclusion based on that. Other polls (she used Emerson as an example) include all kinds of other factors, previous voting patterns, past election results, and fill in places in their "model" with their results. So they are trying to make the poll fit their narrative.

I've seen two polls indicating the percentage of Republicans crossing over is at or around 10%, both from polls of people who already voted. So I'm guessing the mainstream media polls do not have a category for "Republican now voting Democrat" because it wouldn't fit their narrative.

Dread Pirate Roberts

(1,971 posts)
9. In my VERY republlican town-the former mayor is (and has been since August) sporting a Harris sign
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 11:43 AM
Nov 2024

Widely considered the best mayor our town has ever had-I know he has to have had an influence on at least some of the locals, if only to make some of them have one of those Star Trek moments when Kirk makes the computer blow up by confusing it with logic.

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