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HereForTheParty

(915 posts)
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 03:46 PM Nov 2024

We probably won't have a winner tonight

What I have gleamed from a few articles indicates a close race could take until...

Arizona - Unknown
Georgia - Tuesday or Wednesday
Michigan - Friday
Nevada - Saturday
North Carolina - Tuesday or Wednesday
Pennsylvania - Friday
Wisconsin - Tuesday or Wednesday

Buckle in, and here's hoping the MAGAts don't descend on the vote counters.


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We probably won't have a winner tonight (Original Post) HereForTheParty Nov 2024 OP
I think we will have a good ideal tho............................ Lovie777 Nov 2024 #1
Noon news here in NC dweller Nov 2024 #2
Yeah, I think they're all going to be really cautious HereForTheParty Nov 2024 #3
They are counting in PA early votes this time...if he loses PA, he is toast. Demsrule86 Nov 2024 #4
Was thinking that about 2016 Iris Nov 2024 #12
They started opening mail in ballots at 7am in PA. joshcryer Nov 2024 #15
Why is it so hard? DaddyShark Nov 2024 #5
Elections are run by local entities berniesandersmittens Nov 2024 #8
Mail-in vote count takes longer exmodee Nov 2024 #10
The problem in 2020 is that 1) it was the first time (COVID) and 2) they couldn't open the ballots. joshcryer Nov 2024 #16
It wasn't just a 2020 problem exmodee Nov 2024 #17
I understand that, but they are opening the envelopes early. joshcryer Nov 2024 #20
That would be good exmodee Nov 2024 #25
But we will know which way it is going to wind up Jersey Devil Nov 2024 #6
Watch New Hampshire and Virginia for the pulse. cachukis Nov 2024 #7
We'll see. I hope we do. Emile Nov 2024 #9
I think we'll know by 6:00AM tomorrow. BluesRunTheGame Nov 2024 #11
By tomorrow morning lrymcqueen Nov 2024 #13
It won't be because of the closeness of the result. It will be down to the sheer numbers of people voting. n/t DrivingOnThe Left Nov 2024 #14
Disagree Johnny2X2X Nov 2024 #18
Counter Intuitive..we have a winner by 11PM tonight JCMach1 Nov 2024 #19
This is going to be a landslide Jason1961 Nov 2024 #21
I heard that here in AZ it could be 13 days before all votes are counted. StarryNite Nov 2024 #22
DeSantis will probably screw up the Florida vote count as well. lpbk2713 Nov 2024 #23
I would not be surprised if the election is called for Harris between midnight and 1am EST ZonkerHarris Nov 2024 #24
The media will stretch it out as long as possible Clash City Rocker Nov 2024 #26
I'm under the impression that PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2024 #27
I respectfully disagree. Kamala will be named President-Elect tonight. n/t asuhornets Nov 2024 #28

dweller

(27,641 posts)
2. Noon news here in NC
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 03:48 PM
Nov 2024

said we should get large results totals btwn 9 and 11 pm tonight
Doesn’t mean we will call then tho

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Demsrule86

(71,464 posts)
4. They are counting in PA early votes this time...if he loses PA, he is toast.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 03:50 PM
Nov 2024

So it may be over. I remember in 12 I expected a long night but it was over at 9:30 PM.

Iris

(16,806 posts)
12. Was thinking that about 2016
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:14 PM
Nov 2024

One of my younger colleagues was tweeting from a bar that was a known political watering hole and around 9:30 tweeted she was going home

joshcryer

(62,534 posts)
15. They started opening mail in ballots at 7am in PA.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:18 PM
Nov 2024

But they will be counted after the polls close. But yeah we should get strong results maybe 3-4 hours after the polls close there.

DaddyShark

(14 posts)
5. Why is it so hard?
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 03:52 PM
Nov 2024

I really don't get it. We have technology that makes counting votes faster than ever and more people than ever have voted early. Are a lot of these states just trying to make early excuses for being incompetent? The only thing I can understand for why it would take days to get the results is if it was so close that the uncounted mail in ballots and or provisional ballots would be enough to make a difference in the outcome. Then I get it.. But a lot of states are claming they are going to have problems before problems even occur.

berniesandersmittens

(12,920 posts)
8. Elections are run by local entities
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 03:59 PM
Nov 2024

Some stayes do not allow counting absentee ballots (mail in) until after the polls close or until the following day. Provisional ballots are counted/not counted after election day.

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exmodee

(42 posts)
10. Mail-in vote count takes longer
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:00 PM
Nov 2024

A lot of states aren't allowed to start counting the mail-in votes until after the same-day voting is counted. And the proportion of mail-in voting is pretty significant at this point. It's so much more convenient for voters that some areas are almost solely mail-in now.

joshcryer

(62,534 posts)
16. The problem in 2020 is that 1) it was the first time (COVID) and 2) they couldn't open the ballots.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:19 PM
Nov 2024

They began opening the ballots at 7am in PA, and will stacks upon stacks of ballots ready to go into the counting machines as soon as the polls close.

exmodee

(42 posts)
17. It wasn't just a 2020 problem
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:33 PM
Nov 2024

It's an even bigger phenomenon this year:

"There are a number of reasons it can take longer for ballots to be counted in some states, including the rise of mail-in voting, an option taken by nearly one-third of voters nationwide during the 2022 midterm elections, according to the MIT Election Lab. Some states allow mail-in ballots to be counted before Election Day, while others do not allow poll workers to start counting those ballots until in-person voting has come to an end."

See the link below for a (swing) state-by-state breakdown of the counting laws.

Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/when-will-we-know-election-results-2024/

joshcryer

(62,534 posts)
20. I understand that, but they are opening the envelopes early.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:57 PM
Nov 2024

Which is a stark difference from 2020.

Jersey Devil

(10,714 posts)
6. But we will know which way it is going to wind up
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 03:56 PM
Nov 2024

NC counts pretty early and from what I have read Georgia is going to be quick as well, so we'll know pretty fast unless it is so close in those states that we have to wait for every vote to be counted. The margins of victory in other states should also be a big clue.

14. It won't be because of the closeness of the result. It will be down to the sheer numbers of people voting. n/t
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:16 PM
Nov 2024

Johnny2X2X

(23,641 posts)
18. Disagree
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:34 PM
Nov 2024

I think NC basically cements it before PA is called. WI, MI, and NV get called by midnight.

Jason1961

(461 posts)
21. This is going to be a landslide
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:58 PM
Nov 2024

We won't know the vote totals everywhere but it won't matter, VP Harris will have this locked up by 7:30 or 8:30 at the latest but you won't hear that until midnight, that said you're going to wake up to VP Harris being President Elect Harris

StarryNite

(11,942 posts)
22. I heard that here in AZ it could be 13 days before all votes are counted.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 05:00 PM
Nov 2024

But projections can come in before that.

lpbk2713

(43,239 posts)
23. DeSantis will probably screw up the Florida vote count as well.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 05:01 PM
Nov 2024


If it looks like KH will have a majority he will do what he can to delay Florida's count.

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
24. I would not be surprised if the election is called for Harris between midnight and 1am EST
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 05:03 PM
Nov 2024

Once we've won NC all the dominoes will fall for us.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,382 posts)
27. I'm under the impression that
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 06:09 PM
Nov 2024

the states saying it will be days for the final results, are referring to all of the other things/candidates/issues/etc that are on ballots in some states. The Arizona ballot is four pages. I don't know about the other states on that list, but I suspect it's something similar.

There's also the issue of when absentee or mailed-in ballots are counted. Waiting until the close of the polls to start counting them is truly dumb in my opinion, but what do I know?

And yes, the notion that this is a remotely close race at the top is utter nonsense.

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