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Here's a novel thought. (Original Post) strongermessage Nov 2024 OP
People love the doom newdeal2 Nov 2024 #1
I don't know anyone who loves doom. MontanaMama Nov 2024 #2
I think people's emotions are being played upon newdeal2 Nov 2024 #5
That could very well be AND MontanaMama Nov 2024 #10
As I recall, this is exactly where things stood at this hour in 2020. n/t Mister Ed Nov 2024 #3
Not really. edisdead Nov 2024 #6
Unfortunately, they didn't. Self Esteem Nov 2024 #7
I remember going to sleep that night (on the west coast mind you) newdeal2 Nov 2024 #8
Because there's a clear trend. Self Esteem Nov 2024 #4
another novel idea: there is a lot on the line. Give people space to process in their own way. fishwax Nov 2024 #9

MontanaMama

(24,600 posts)
2. I don't know anyone who loves doom.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:42 PM
Nov 2024

These things do take time but I don’t think it’s fair to say our fellow DUers love doom. We’ve seen our fellow Americans vote against their own best interests and against the safety and security of their family members and friends. People are afraid and have good reason.

newdeal2

(4,660 posts)
5. I think people's emotions are being played upon
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:44 PM
Nov 2024

By MSM and things like the NYT needle. The data isn't complete or necessarily representative, but people are reading all sorts of things into what's being shown minute by minute.

MontanaMama

(24,600 posts)
10. That could very well be AND
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:53 PM
Nov 2024

I maintain that people don’t love doom. Folks are fragile and afraid. We have been burned more than once.

 

Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
7. Unfortunately, they didn't.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:45 PM
Nov 2024

In 2020, Biden was down significant margins in most states but there was a ton of outstanding votes in the blue areas.

That isn't happening tonight.

In 2020, only 20% of Philadelphia had reported.

Right now? It's over 60% and she's not pulling in near the margins Biden did four years ago.

newdeal2

(4,660 posts)
8. I remember going to sleep that night (on the west coast mind you)
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:46 PM
Nov 2024

Feeling despair. Barely slept but woke up to much better news in the morning. Things change. The "dumps" will come in

 

Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
4. Because there's a clear trend.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:44 PM
Nov 2024

And it's a trend that showed itself around this time in 2016.

I think it's best we start preparing ourselves. It's not like 2020 where there was so many outstanding Biden votes.

At this point, Biden was down double-digits to Trump in PA. Places like Philadelphia barely had any reporting numbers.

But right now? Philadelphia is at over 60% reported and Harris is doing worse there than any Democrat going back to Kerry has.

That's a concern.

fishwax

(29,346 posts)
9. another novel idea: there is a lot on the line. Give people space to process in their own way.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:50 PM
Nov 2024

You can always hide the panicked threads.

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