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Whatever happens, I refuse to fault Kamala Harris. (Original Post) RandySF Nov 2024 OP
Definitely not her fault at all! Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #1
Flawless campaign MaryMagdaline Nov 2024 #2
I agree. She did a great job. iemanja Nov 2024 #3
Bravo to that! N/T Farmgirl1961 Nov 2024 #4
i just don't know this country anymore. ZonkerHarris Nov 2024 #5
It was brilliant, flawless. I don't know how it could have been better. Ocelot II Nov 2024 #6
Misogyny Freddie Nov 2024 #12
That's just it. People don't know any of that. They're ignorant of it. lees1975 Nov 2024 #15
My Spidey sense sez the last one LSparkle Nov 2024 #53
More like social media womanofthehills Nov 2024 #67
yea not her or our fault pimpbot Nov 2024 #7
Misogyny Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #14
Veep Kamala has done Everything she Cha Nov 2024 #8
Make no mistake. The Republican campaign was about identity politics. MaryMagdaline Nov 2024 #9
Agree. She worked her butt off. Executed everything almost beaglelover Nov 2024 #10
In spite of the fact that she ran a flawless campaign, and raised the money she needed, lees1975 Nov 2024 #11
This isn't about the media, and we have to stop using them as an excuse. TwilightZone Nov 2024 #18
"hammering on #####"??? Please cite examples of the "hammering" niyad Nov 2024 #23
Disagree, the M$M normalized him ... that's a fact not in dispute uponit7771 Nov 2024 #26
And they held Kamala to a different much higher standard. StarryNite Nov 2024 #38
Dana Bash admitted it and then said it is what it is ... I'm angry now ... we'll resist uponit7771 Nov 2024 #39
Kamala's campaign had to be (and was) flawless; Trump could (and was) lawless. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2024 #59
Racism and sexism. TwilightZone Nov 2024 #13
I totally agree!!! She's been Blue_Roses Nov 2024 #16
Totally agree. She has been working around the clock and doing well. Silent Type Nov 2024 #17
Agree! She worked very hard. Nt helpisontheway Nov 2024 #19
She did everything right. Elessar Zappa Nov 2024 #20
I honestly think she ran the best possible campaign she could have run. She had Republicans to campaign for her In It to Win It Nov 2024 #21
She did everything right except grow a penis Marigold Nov 2024 #22
Agree anamnua Nov 2024 #24
This upcoming nightmare won't end in 4 years. StarryNite Nov 2024 #36
She was brilliant! AllyCat Nov 2024 #25
I blame those who forced Biden to step down. PikaBlue Nov 2024 #27
She's a fantastic candidate! spicysista Nov 2024 #28
Too much Cheney, not enough AOC Ztolkins Nov 2024 #29
Who or what convinced the american people young_at_heart Nov 2024 #30
Kamala Harris was flawless. ancianita Nov 2024 #31
I'm ready to fault the counters. It's how Putin came to power. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2024 #32
Blaming our candidates has always been a problem JI7 Nov 2024 #33
She was absolutely wonderful. StarryNite Nov 2024 #34
Absolutely. Best post of the night. /nt artemisia1 Nov 2024 #35
The US suicided itself not fooled Nov 2024 #37
I refuse to accept tfg... Ysabel Nov 2024 #40
Except for going after the Cheney vote Polybius Nov 2024 #41
Disagree Hekate Nov 2024 #43
Fair enough Polybius Nov 2024 #48
I absolutely agree Hekate Nov 2024 #42
x 1000 Maru Kitteh Nov 2024 #44
She did everything she could!!! wolfie001 Nov 2024 #45
Its our fault oldmanlynn Nov 2024 #46
Blame Kamala for what? B.See Nov 2024 #47
In no way is she or her team to blame. gordianot Nov 2024 #49
AGREED! Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #50
She IS smart, caring, and witty. No blame at all her way. And I am very subdued, but not totally giving up hope. electric_blue68 Nov 2024 #51
Your damn right she did. The problem isn't her, it is that there are too many Americans who are not very good people, JohnSJ Nov 2024 #52
It just does not make sense. All the republicans voting harris LizBeth Nov 2024 #54
Agree completely -- this doesn't pass the smell test! LSparkle Nov 2024 #55
TIME was not her friend. riversedge Nov 2024 #56
She has run a great campaign DemonGoddess Nov 2024 #57
Harris was never a good presidential candidate, 2020 proved that. However we had no choice but to nominate her after tritsofme Nov 2024 #58
thanks for posting, you are so right Hamlette Nov 2024 #60
Kamala was perfect. America is broken. mainer Nov 2024 #61
My brother voted for Harris. But, I had to text him that the dems worked hard and I don't want mucifer Nov 2024 #62
To me its so simple. hydrolastic Nov 2024 #63
I was amazed with her and Walz enthusiasm. Emile Nov 2024 #64
I think there were some errors though. alarimer Nov 2024 #65
I fault MSM for demanding Harris be flawless and TSF lawless Tribetime Nov 2024 #66
she did everything right Skittles Nov 2024 #68

Dem4life1234

(2,533 posts)
1. Definitely not her fault at all!
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:32 AM
Nov 2024

It's the fault of stupid asses in this country and the lame stream media.

She's too good for this shit hole.

Ocelot II

(130,536 posts)
6. It was brilliant, flawless. I don't know how it could have been better.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:33 AM
Nov 2024

And I don't understand how, knowing what Trump is, people voted for him instead of her. Misogyny? Racism? Russian interference?

Freddie

(10,104 posts)
12. Misogyny
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:34 AM
Nov 2024

Way too many people just can’t stand a smart successful woman. Even many women.

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
67. More like social media
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 10:11 PM
Nov 2024

The Republicans had a much larger online presence. Joe Rogan & Tucker both have millions more viewers than mainstream news. A third of young Americans get all their news online.

pimpbot

(1,172 posts)
7. yea not her or our fault
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:33 AM
Nov 2024

I don't think even we had a young white guy at the top of the ticket the incel/bro/women haters would vote for them. There seems to be a serious backlash to the last couple years of empowering non-whites, and I say that as a white guy. I am sick.

MaryMagdaline

(7,964 posts)
9. Make no mistake. The Republican campaign was about identity politics.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:33 AM
Nov 2024

He’s one of theirs. Simple as that.

beaglelover

(4,466 posts)
10. Agree. She worked her butt off. Executed everything almost
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:34 AM
Nov 2024

Perfectly. It’s not her fault that this country is too misogynistic to elect a woman as President.

lees1975

(7,046 posts)
11. In spite of the fact that she ran a flawless campaign, and raised the money she needed,
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:34 AM
Nov 2024

it's impossible to run against the main stream media when they control the narrative and refuse to tell the truth. We've seen this being set up, even with the polls.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
18. This isn't about the media, and we have to stop using them as an excuse.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:36 AM
Nov 2024

At some point, we have to stop making excuses and just acknowledge that half the country sucks, and the media has very little to do with it.

The media has been hammering on Trump for years. We just pretend not to see it, and that intentional ignorance has gotten very tiresome.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
23. "hammering on #####"??? Please cite examples of the "hammering"
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:45 AM
Nov 2024

that we all have missed.

59. Kamala's campaign had to be (and was) flawless; Trump could (and was) lawless.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 03:18 AM
Nov 2024

Hitler fed on a fear and hatred of Jews. T***p feeds on the fear and hatred of the people who are not like his supporters.

As a military officer I took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution. That doesn't change. My focus does, however. For 20 years the enemy was foreign; now it is domestic.

Sad.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
13. Racism and sexism.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:34 AM
Nov 2024

I'm having a hard time coming up with other reasons, but I'm tired and not exactly rational at the moment. I think that's what this all boils down to, and it says nothing good about the country.

I don't think she could have run a better campaign, particularly in only 3.5 months.

Blue_Roses

(13,879 posts)
16. I totally agree!!! She's been
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:35 AM
Nov 2024

phenomenal and it's breaking my heart because she is WHAT THIS COUNTRY NEEDS!!

In It to Win It

(12,651 posts)
21. I honestly think she ran the best possible campaign she could have run. She had Republicans to campaign for her
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:38 AM
Nov 2024

I don't know what else she could have done.

anamnua

(1,510 posts)
24. Agree
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:47 AM
Nov 2024

America deserves everything that’s coming to her the next four years she turns her back on someone of the calibre of Kamala. But who knows? She may get a second shot.

PikaBlue

(495 posts)
27. I blame those who forced Biden to step down.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:51 AM
Nov 2024

We just needed him to win the election and then hand the baton off to Kamala.

spicysista

(1,731 posts)
28. She's a fantastic candidate!
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:52 AM
Nov 2024

I'm proud to have voted for her. She did everything she was supposed to do.

young_at_heart

(4,042 posts)
30. Who or what convinced the american people
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:54 AM
Nov 2024

that a complete degenerate was the best choice? Did cognitive thinking ever enter into the conversation?

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
31. Kamala Harris was flawless.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:57 AM
Nov 2024

We can blame women, and cult Republican voters', and corporate media & crypto-tech bros' fault, but somehow, other autocratic forces, not just stupid voters, were greater than we knew.

How this election will be dissected -- even how nothing but the whole truth comes out -- won't be enough to heal the body politic, even if Harris wins.

StarryNite

(12,116 posts)
34. She was absolutely wonderful.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:06 AM
Nov 2024

Unfortunately it looks like we are "going back" in spite of all her hard work and the work of so many others.

not fooled

(6,680 posts)
37. The US suicided itself
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:09 AM
Nov 2024

Not her fault.

And, of course, the disclaimer that only a certain percentage did it, but the rest of us as well will have to deal with the consequences.

Uneffin'believable.

Ysabel

(2,081 posts)
40. I refuse to accept tfg...
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:12 AM
Nov 2024

KAMALA IS MY PRESIDENT...

tfg will NEVER be - I will NEVER acknowledge that evil piece of shit...

- and yes, Kamala ran a fantastic campaign!

wolfie001

(7,667 posts)
45. She did everything she could!!!
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:22 AM
Nov 2024

Misogyny and racism are definitely a factor in this whole process. She's a wonderful and brilliant woman and a great candidate!

oldmanlynn

(821 posts)
46. Its our fault
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:23 AM
Nov 2024

Trump and MAGA has been limited to 45-47 or less. We democrats did not turn out like we expected. Shocking.

B.See

(8,503 posts)
47. Blame Kamala for what?
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:26 AM
Nov 2024

She ran an inspiring, heart warming campaign, exemplifying the noblest of character and qualities any candidate has ever shown.

The blame lies with those who embrace and revel in the exact opposite: hate, bigotry, selfishness, malice, and cruelty. And yes, even indifference.

gordianot

(15,772 posts)
49. In no way is she or her team to blame.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:29 AM
Nov 2024

If she goes manage to win with fewer total national vote just maybe it would motivate people to get rid of the Electoral College. Maybe elimination of Medicare and Social Security will wake us up. Being 72 years old I have enough health problems I will not survive.

Jack Valentino

(5,011 posts)
50. AGREED!
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:34 AM
Nov 2024

Although I might have "thought I knew better" about some part of the messaging,
she hardly had time to think about it adequately---
but none-the-less had more support from members of the opposing party
than I presume has every happened in the history of presidential elections

and it all should have been "much more than enough" in any sane universe.


electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
51. She IS smart, caring, and witty. No blame at all her way. And I am very subdued, but not totally giving up hope.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:38 AM
Nov 2024

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
52. Your damn right she did. The problem isn't her, it is that there are too many Americans who are not very good people,
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:39 AM
Nov 2024

ethically or morally.

From my perspective this was the best campaign I have ever been part of.

LizBeth

(11,222 posts)
54. It just does not make sense. All the republicans voting harris
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:40 AM
Nov 2024

The enthusiasm in the left. Knowing the dire circumstance.

LSparkle

(12,182 posts)
55. Agree completely -- this doesn't pass the smell test!
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:41 AM
Nov 2024

I can’t help thinking something really bad has happened ...

tritsofme

(19,900 posts)
58. Harris was never a good presidential candidate, 2020 proved that. However we had no choice but to nominate her after
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:58 AM
Nov 2024

Biden’s exit.

The whole thing is a tragedy.

mucifer

(25,667 posts)
62. My brother voted for Harris. But, I had to text him that the dems worked hard and I don't want
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 08:47 PM
Nov 2024

to hear a laundry list from him about what she did wrong. He was complaining about her before the election. He did vote for her. I just don't want to hear it anymore about "what she did wrong". He respected my statement.

hydrolastic

(547 posts)
63. To me its so simple.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 09:14 PM
Nov 2024

Ok you guys quit blaming yourselves. I have described this a few times but it seems to get yawns. Here is the deal. “Its about the guns” I work in a union shop blue collar mostly men couple of women. 20’s to 60’s The tables have gun magazines on them. The guys talk rounds and grains,velocity and rust prevention fluids cleaning. They talk new ones, cool ones. Where to go shoot, money on ammo reloading ammo. Prices and where to buy. There are shop gun experts and who has what brand. etc. On and on. The rednecks love them its a whole culture. And get this, even with the women in the shop.
For decades The NRA have taught certain trigger words and policies. Somehow the idea that any legislation is not to be accepted in any way is the normal belief and that s why we see them scoff at any kind of legislation. When Charlton Heston said pry the gun from my cold dead hands it was a call of unity and dedication to the hobby. And yes its just a hobby....Until a whako gets one. (By the way one of my coworkers braggs that he has over 50 guns and he lives with his mom.) So I cringed when Harris in her stump speech said “common sense gun laws” I knew it was a dividing statement. The same type of person who is into the gun hobby is exactly the working class grievance guy/woman that voted for Trump, Just ask me how I know.

 

alarimer

(17,146 posts)
65. I think there were some errors though.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 09:45 PM
Nov 2024

I think trotting out Liz Cheney and other Republican retreads was a misstep.

Skittles

(171,715 posts)
68. she did everything right
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:53 AM
Nov 2024

but they were never gonna let Hillary be prez, and they DAMN SURE would not let a black female be president

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