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WarGamer

(18,218 posts)
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:04 AM Nov 2024

Democratic Party needs a top to bottom review.

We lost minorities... we lost some Union members and blue collar America... lost some young voters and rural voters roared.

You don't have to look far for solutions... go back to the Party of the past...

Today's Party is a twisted Frankenstein of the traditional Party... neocons, warmongers, authoritarians and too many billionaires.

More Fetterman types...

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Democratic Party needs a top to bottom review. (Original Post) WarGamer Nov 2024 OP
trumps personality is the reflection of the majority of voters as of this writing. msongs Nov 2024 #1
Unnnn, Biden won with good margin but there's **NO DOUBT** something went way south this election. 4 points hard to TFG uponit7771 Nov 2024 #2
Maybe oh just maybe... Liz Cheney, Dick Cheney, Bill Kristol and all the misbegotten neocons were a mistake WarGamer Nov 2024 #3
That's just silly dpibel Nov 2024 #5
Thank-you. From my perspective Harris did everything right. It was the American people that lost their moral JohnSJ Nov 2024 #9
What was really not good was Whoopi Goldberg womanofthehills Nov 2024 #14
Name them dpibel Nov 2024 #4
What's the point? RidinWithHarris Nov 2024 #6
Maybe the United States of America needs a top to bottom review. FHRRK Nov 2024 #7
sorry friend, that isn't why the Democrats lost. The neocons, warmongers, etc. voted for trump. The reality is JohnSJ Nov 2024 #8
I am not part of that "we"-and neither are many others. Sadly, I agree with most of what you say....... riversedge Nov 2024 #10
Of course we as Democrats, progressives, etc. aren't but a hell of a lot of people are, and more of them voted then we JohnSJ Nov 2024 #13
Don't forget Trump's additional goals, which include destroying the ACA... keep_left Nov 2024 #12
Concur. And we need to start by looking at the mid-terms in 2 years... SKKY Nov 2024 #11
Yes! We need our own asshole bully for our side! In It to Win It Nov 2024 #15

uponit7771

(93,464 posts)
2. Unnnn, Biden won with good margin but there's **NO DOUBT** something went way south this election. 4 points hard to TFG
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:11 AM
Nov 2024

... is outside MOE

WarGamer

(18,218 posts)
3. Maybe oh just maybe... Liz Cheney, Dick Cheney, Bill Kristol and all the misbegotten neocons were a mistake
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:13 AM
Nov 2024

dpibel

(3,754 posts)
5. That's just silly
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:18 AM
Nov 2024

Those people are not Democrats.

They are Republicans who called out the insanity of Trump.

And you wish to ascribe their characteristics to this party?

Please.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
9. Thank-you. From my perspective Harris did everything right. It was the American people that lost their moral
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:36 AM
Nov 2024

compass and voted for this jackass, and we will pay a very heavy price for, especially the younger generation for years to come.

History is actually repeating itself with what happened in Europe in the 30's, is now coming to America through trump.

womanofthehills

(10,683 posts)
14. What was really not good was Whoopi Goldberg
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:56 AM
Nov 2024

On The View -telling Liz Cheney her moral code was magnificent and that Kamala should appoint her as attorney general. ????????

Definitely not helpful!!

dpibel

(3,754 posts)
4. Name them
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:16 AM
Nov 2024

Who are the neocons, warmongers, and authoritarians who are major voices in the Democratic party?

You do remember, I trust, that only recently, Donald J. Trump was throwing around the word "warmonger."

Who do you think in Congress is a Democrat who holds a candle to the average Republican in any of the categories you've called out?

RidinWithHarris

(790 posts)
6. What's the point?
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:22 AM
Nov 2024

We’re entering an autocracy. There will be no real Democratic party, just whatever sham is allowed to stand for appearances, in a pantomime of democracy like elections in Russia.

FHRRK

(1,352 posts)
7. Maybe the United States of America needs a top to bottom review.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:26 AM
Nov 2024

As a Californian, I am fucking done appeasing the States that claim we are too liberal.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
8. sorry friend, that isn't why the Democrats lost. The neocons, warmongers, etc. voted for trump. The reality is
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:30 AM
Nov 2024

that a large portion of the public voted for the authoritarians, because the depressing truth is that this country is made up of too many people who actually are racists, sexists, and bigots.

That is why Rogan and others have such a large following.

Those Union members who didn't vote for her, let's see how they get along with a musk type agenda. Those union workers played the same thing by refusing to vote for Jimmy Carter over Reagan and they paid a heavy price for that folly. Obviously, they didn't learn from history. We'll see how trump works out for them.

As for those young people, I wouldn't count on any student loan reprieves, and good luck with minimum wage, and a safe working environment, and they can kiss off any climate change initiative. If the Israeli-Palestinian issue was their grievance, if trump's words to Netanyahu were accurate, they will wish there was a two-state solution. That's out the door, and it is likely the palestinian situation will get even worse.

Good luck to the farmers if trump actually goes through with his tarriffs. That will not only cause inflation, but make it difficult to export their goods to other countries, which the last time he did that in 2016 he had to subsidize those farmers, which along with his suppossed tax breaks for the richest Americans will only increase our deficit, which those young people who decided not to participate, will be the ones who will have to deal with that.

If he fulfills his promise, he will trash the U.S. dollar, push crypto currency,, and interfere with the federal reserve.

The country will be headed for some very difficult times with those policies, and frankly we deserve it for electing this authoritarian.



riversedge

(79,165 posts)
10. I am not part of that "we"-and neither are many others. Sadly, I agree with most of what you say.......
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:38 AM
Nov 2024

WE, as a country will be going through a lot of tough years--first we grieve.
I am going to nighty night and hope to get some sleep and not dream of the dread I feel.
Good night.


 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
13. Of course we as Democrats, progressives, etc. aren't but a hell of a lot of people are, and more of them voted then we
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:46 AM
Nov 2024

did and elections have consequences.

Have a good night and stay safe.


keep_left

(3,143 posts)
12. Don't forget Trump's additional goals, which include destroying the ACA...
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:45 AM
Nov 2024

...and hiring Eloon to wreck the remainder of the social safety net. And the MAGA voters have no excuse for their ignorance; Eloon has already warned them that severe hardship would be coming if Trump was re-elected.

https://democraticunderground.com/100219666895#post12

SKKY

(12,738 posts)
11. Concur. And we need to start by looking at the mid-terms in 2 years...
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 02:41 AM
Nov 2024

....and get ready because Dems have a very favorable Senate map.

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